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chess-z

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Well I spent some time reading up on Bisharp so here's my take on a Bisharp set:

Bisharp @ Life Orb
Ability: Defiant
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD /252 Spe
Jolly Nature
-Low Kick
-Iron Head
-Sucker Punch
-Knock Off

This gives us a lot of checks and counters rolled up on 'mon. Bisharp's presence scares away most fairy types, for good reason. It's a great partner to Celebi, with a projected chain of play like this: Celebi sets up rocks and the U-Turns into Bisharp, into the predicted defog. Low Kick gives us another way to deal with the omnipresent Cobalion and other Bisharp. A joly nature is vital to outspeeding the Bisharp mirror. It's already well supported by the team, and especially by Keldeo, so it feels like a bit of a no-brainer to slap it on.
 

MetalSonic

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Ditto @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Imposter
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Relaxed Nature
- Transform

Have you ever really needed to make an activity post and wanted to make a suggestion at the same time? Then suggest ditto! Ditto is best brought in to revenge kill threats that have set up, tho its HP stat is too low to tank hits, so it should never be switched in directly. It doesn't necessarily have to always act as a revenge killer; it can also be used to scout out movesets for a teammate. When facing offensive teams that carry setup sweepers, try to preserve Ditto if at all possible, because if it faints the opposing sweepers are free to set up. Against defensive teams, Ditto should generally be used to copy Aromatherapy or Heal Bell and use it to heal a teammate that has been crippled by status, like a burned or paralyzed Garde dog. Ditto can also copy Defog or Rapid Spin and use them to remove hazards if the team's spinner has fainted or Ditto simply has nothing better to do.

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Crobat @ Sky Plate
Ability: Infiltrator
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Brave Bird
- U-turn
- Roost
- Taunt / Defog

Crobat! Not just any Crobat, but a true bro of a bat. An excellent mon to help punch holes into the opposing team as well as another fairy/fighting resist to ease the burden on Celebi and Klefki. Infiltrator is an excellent ability to hit past subbed mons such as Nido, Chandy, and even Raikou to pivot out into Krook or Klefki. Crobat also provides us another nice check to fighting types such as Infernape, Conkeldurr, and Mienshao whom we can only shakily check atm. Brave Birds power is truly a marvel as with 1 round of rock/spike damage, it can OHKO so many things that may trouble our team such as offensive Starmie, Primarina, and another nice thing is that is 2HKO's phys def Tenta with Sky Plate after that one round of SR damage as well. U-Turn'll help keep up offensive momentum, of course. Roost is absolutely mandatory to keep bat healthy over the course of the damage it'll be taking. Last moveslot is entirely up to the last mon of our team. Taunt keeps set up a non-option against mons that may look to eat a hit and wreck us such as DD Haxorus and helps keep walls low like Hippowdon and especially Clefable so we can break past them. It also makes Crobat a very versatile lead due to its utility and Crobats powerful STAB and speed. Hazards+BB can really do a number on the tier and in tandem with Taunt really do help to accentuate Crobats ability to keep things low. Defog if our last mon is a mon that can't help control hazards and you feel as if our team can really appreciate it. ^^

Steel types that threaten Crobat like Empoleon, Bisharp, and Forrtress can be answered well enough by our main dude Keldeo, as well as Krookodile and Klefkis HP Fire. Offensive Scizor is 2HKO'd by BB whilst Cobalion takes a good chunk but we have to be wary of its Stone Edge.

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Bisharp @ Life Orb
Ability: Defiant
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD /252 Spe
Jolly Nature
-Low Kick
-Iron Head
-Sucker Punch
-Knock Off

This gives us a lot of checks and counters rolled up on 'mon. Bisharp's presence scares away most fairy types, for good reason. It's a great partner to Celebi, with a projected chain of play like this: Celebi sets up rocks and the U-Turns into Bisharp, into the predicted defog. Low Kick gives us another way to deal with the omnipresent Cobalion and other Bisharp. A joly nature is vital to outspeeding the Bisharp mirror. It's already well supported by the team, and especially by Keldeo, so it feels like a bit of a no-brainer to slap it on.

Three mons to choose from this round around!
Ditto can be used as a check'n'check. As in check the opponents opposing sweepers and their other mons sets for our advantage. Crobat provides us with another Ground answer as well as the other things mentioned in the post, and Bisharp is a very nice priority mon that punishes Defog. Especially appreciated with the hazard stack our team'll do. All can work one way or the other, just read those descripts, the team, h*ck, read the links and the team to see which one you think we'll need more.

Klefki @ Leftovers
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 Spe
Relaxed Nature
- Spikes
- Play Rough
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Thunder Wave

SM UU Viability Rankings

SM UU Teambuilding Reference

Votan for fifth member shall end on
April 26'th 12:00 PM UTC -6
 

MetalSonic

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Keldeo-Resolute @ Normalium Z
Ability: Justified
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Calm Mind
- Scald
- Secret Sword
- Hyper Beam

Keldeo was amazing in OU and it's pretty great in UU as well. Scald and Secret Sword are standard STAB moves while Calm Mind allows Keldeo to act as both a wallbreaker and a win condition. Normalium Z boosted Hyper Beam is for luring mons that could normally check/counter Keldeo such as Amoonguss, Primarina, Mew, etc. This set was actually running around in OU at some point and it was mainly used to lure Tapu Fini for stuff like Ash Ninja. That same concept can be applied here with our other team members. Keldeo also serves as a check to several common threats such as Bisharp and Scizor.

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Krookodile @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Knock Off
- Earthquake
- Pursuit
- Stone Edge

Krookodile can act as a revenge killer as well as a trapper of prime Keld switch ins such as Lati, Starmie, and Jellicent. Intimidate is a not a mispaste, it's just Krooks not sweeping with its STABs due to their poor coverage within the UU tier when choice locked, and also, Intimidate helps it to come in much more easily on certain mons. He also acts as an Electric deterrer so Raikou can't be cheeky against Keld. Stone Edge is particularly for flyers such as Aero, Crobat, and Togekiss especially. Knock Off spam can be pretty helpful to knock off lefties early game so that Keld can have a better shot at breaking through things that rely on them for recovery. It is for these reasons I believe Krook pairs well with Keld, Keld even helps to break through common Krook switch ins like Hippo, Gliscor, Forretress, and Swampert. Moxie can actually be used, if that's what you'd truly like, but Intimidate does help it to come in easier on certain mons as mentioned above. The main goal of this Krook is to apply offensive pressure with its scarf, item knocking capabilities, and high powered STABs as well as trap Keldeo switch ins so Keldeo can function. There is a certain risk to using a scarfed Pursuiter as you may all be aware of, so do trap only if you feel the opp is deffo gonna switch. They're a nice beginning to offensive core, to be sure.

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Celebi @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 248 HP / 88 Def / 152 SpD / 20 Spe
Bold Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Recover
- Giga Drain
- U-turn

Celebi provides our team with both a stealth rocker and a pivot, especially useful for getting in Keldeo. It pairs well with our team members, taking grass, electric, and psychic type attacks for Keldeo and taking fighting, grass, and water type attacks for Krookodile. Keldeo helps with threatening Scizor and Bisharp. The EV spread was stolen from Smogon although I tweaked it so Celebi has an odd HP number, dunno why they don't do that themselves. 20 Speed EVs outspeeds Timid Primarina, which our team has trouble switching into. U-turn is for switch initiative and the rest are self explanatory.

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Klefki @ Leftovers
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 Spe
Relaxed Nature
- Spikes
- Play Rough
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Thunder Wave

With scizor and lati becoming common defoggers ,its nice to have a spiker that beats both. This set manages to do that while also beating forry. Play rough is used to break raikou subs and hit lati harder. This set supports pokemon that like having multiple layers of spikes down since it does a pretty good job of setting and keeping the hazard.

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Crobat @ Sky Plate
Ability: Infiltrator
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Brave Bird
- U-turn
- Roost
- Taunt / Defog

Crobat! Not just any Crobat, but a true bro of a bat. An excellent mon to help punch holes into the opposing team as well as another fairy/fighting resist to ease the burden on Celebi and Klefki. Infiltrator is an excellent ability to hit past subbed mons such as Nido, Chandy, and even Raikou to pivot out into Krook or Klefki. Crobat also provides us another nice check to fighting types such as Infernape, Conkeldurr, and Mienshao whom we can only shakily check atm. Brave Birds power is truly a marvel as with 1 round of rock/spike damage, it can OHKO so many things that may trouble our team such as offensive Starmie, Primarina, and another nice thing is that is 2HKO's phys def Tenta with Sky Plate after that one round of SR damage as well. U-Turn'll help keep up offensive momentum, of course. Roost is absolutely mandatory to keep bat healthy over the course of the damage it'll be taking. Last moveslot is entirely up to the last mon of our team. Taunt keeps set up a non-option against mons that may look to eat a hit and wreck us such as DD Haxorus and helps keep walls low like Hippowdon and especially Clefable so we can break past them. It also makes Crobat a very versatile lead due to its utility and Crobats powerful STAB and speed. Hazards+BB can really do a number on the tier and in tandem with Taunt really do help to accentuate Crobats ability to keep things low. Defog if our last mon is a mon that can't help control hazards and you feel as if our team can really appreciate it. ^^

Steel types that threaten Crobat like Empoleon, Bisharp, and Forrtress can be answered well enough by our main dude Keldeo, as well as Krookodile and Klefkis HP Fire. Offensive Scizor is 2HKO'd by BB whilst Cobalion takes a good chunk but we have to be wary of its Stone Edge.

Crobat! Feel like I went over Crobat well, but i'd like to re-iterate its ability to switch into Fairy/Ground moves as well as be a nice Fighting type check with the coverage they throw around, especially since so many tend to U-Turn on Celebi.

SM UU Viability Rankings

SM UU Teambuilding Reference


Final Teammate nominations shall end on
April 30'th 12:00 PM UTC -6

Like always, refer to the above links if you'd like to see what's high in the viability rankings, and what Pokemon fulfills which role on the team. Just give it a think and suggest! Crobat is very much so an appreciated mon with its speed and STAB to threaten offensively as well as its nice defensive typing to help take on hits. Taunt keeps it able to control the flow of hazards so that ours won't be defogged away, it's also a decent stallbreaker with Taunt as well. The last mon, hrm, that's a thinker. If anythin, i'd like another Raikou check, but perhaps somethin to Rapid Spin would be cool.Unfort, there aren't too many mons that do both in UU, or at least, not effectively. We could always just slap on another win con alongside Keld, Krook, and sometimes Crobat to....this is where your input comes in dudes! It's time to make this team complete, and for that, it's time for you to suggest!​
 

MetalSonic

Orderan' Defendan'
Neat to hear, Erron. You were missed, yup!

Alrighty yall time to train up! I'd do montage style, but maybe that would be too quickly. Nope, its time to dig in and truly become one with the competitive in the competitive forum! >:0

Ill set some stuff up personally.
 

Erron Black

The Outlaw
Would you guys like to have ladder challenges outside of the SM OU tier? Or would ya'll prefer to keep the challs strictly in SM OU?
 

MetalSonic

Orderan' Defendan'
Oh, not a one suggestion for the last UU mon! What is this, some sorta not suggestin event we got goin on? Who authorized this?? >:0

I believe most if not all of us specialize in OU. Last I heard of anyone doin anything else other then OU it's in CC or BF. Arcos does Ubers though!
 

MetalSonic

Orderan' Defendan'
Gengar is UU, ye

Also, everyone keep your eyes on open status, postin a clan tour soon! Also, that last UU suggestion has yet to be suggested! Look at the team and suggest accordingly now. I'll extend the suggestions till
May 2'nd 3:00 PM UTC -6


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Sharpedo @ Sharpedonite
Ability: Speed Boost
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Protect
- Crunch
- Ice Fang / Waterfall
- Psychic Fangs

Well we've got hazardstack so we may as well have somethin else to take advantage of it, right? Here is Sharpedo! An appreciated physical attacker that wallbreaks alongside Keldeos CM abilities. Walls like Alomomola and Suicune can be done away with with Keldeo so Sharp can clean easier. Celebi and Crobat help to bring it in with their U-Turns against switch ins such as Hydreigon, Togekiss, and Gliscor. Fighting types that may offensively check Sharp like priority/scarf Conk and Infernape have to be wary of Crobat while scarf Keldeo must be wary of Celebi. This sets pretty standard though I chose Ice Fang over Waterfall this time around simply because it helps us rid ourselves of mons like Hydreigon, Togekiss, and Gliscor faster. Bisharp finds itself being 2HKO'd anyways after a layer of Spikes w/Adamant. Uh huh, just a nice cleaner with hazard support!​
 
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chess-z

campy vampire
Admittedly, I do really want to see mega metagross gone, preferably as soon as possible, but it's kinda annoying to me that they haven't dealt with Hoopa-U or Protean Frog, since those are worse. They even got rid of my girl Phero before Hoopa, which is downright insulting.
 

MetalSonic

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Iiiiitts...

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credits to American-Pi


Yeah, keep on tourin! This'll be another OU tour, we gotta keep on the up and up in regards to OU battlin so awaaayyy we gooo~

VO Smogon OU Tournament

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Rules:

1. Battles'll follow Smogon OU rules!
2. Battles'll be Bo3 (Best of 3)!
3. Battles'll be done on Pokemon Showdown using the alt you've chosen!
4. Battles'll only count once the tour has officially started!
5. Activity wins will be a thing, so make it apparent your getting into contact with your opponent by posting about it here and on their VMs to.

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The suspect is NOT over so Metagross-Mega is STILL allowed. Play with it while you can!

We'll see if we can get the battles rollin once we hit about 8 entrants. If you talk the talk, let's see if you can walk the walk. -w-

First place prize shall be:
15 points OR a mon of your choosing.
Tour winner shall also get the title of "CURRENT CHAMP"

And thats it, no other prizes! It's winner take all so bring your A game. Of course though, tour wins shall count as 2 wins. So if you win both your battles, thats 4 points! Do you have what it takes to become current champ?

If you wanna join, just sign the form!

PS Alt?:
Timezone?:
Censor your fave word thats NOT a curseword:

i.e.: fru*t

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