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Veneno Oscuridad

Discussion in 'Pokémon Guilds' started by MetalSonic, Dec 30, 2013.

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  1. golem12

    golem12 Dragon Trainer

    so how is everyone?
  2. MetalSonic

    MetalSonic Orderan' Defendan'

    That's a pretty reasonable reason! Settle down and then you take care of your mon related things. -w-

    - Doin Nuzlocke
    - Makin moniez
    - Workin out
    - watchin a lotta competitive mons
    - thinkin of event
    - screamin
    - so many spiders

    Aaaaand an extension for the CCAT
    December 11'th 12:00 PM UTC -6

    All that turnout?? Cmon, lemme see a partner!
    Last edited: Dec 10, 2017
  3. DX 2401PT

    DX 2401PT Monitor

    Okay then, I guess I'll throw in another Pokemon from that OU challenge.

    Chandelure @Choice Scarf
    Ability: Infiltrator
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Sp. Atk / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature
    - Flamethrower/Fire Blast/Overheat
    - Shadow Ball
    - Energy Ball
    - Hidden Power [Ice]

    Candleface the Chandelure. ... Or Shadowflame since it sounds cooler. I think Chandelure serves decent when paired with Chansey because it slaps those who would not care for the Counter Chansey build. Such as...

    Scizor and Kartana melt away to Flamethrower. I think Scarf is pretty much mandatory to hit Kartana before it uses Knock Off, assuming it has it. And Chandelure's Infiltrator IGNORES Substitute. A Contrary Serperior can use Sub all it wants. It will burn and die immediately. Chandelure also resists Bullet Punch, so Scizor won't be swatting it away after one or two Swords Dance. And Zygarde can't do squat with Extremespeed, allowing Chandelure to do its thing first.

    Flamethrower for primary STAB. Fire Blast and Overheat are optional, but I hate all attacks with accuracy less than 100. But for the purpose of this, I will include those stronger attacks.

    Shadow Ball for secondary STAB. I would say that this isn't all THAT necessary, but... Tapu Lele exists. Some Latios builds exist.

    Energy Ball for coverage, I guess? Smack those occasional Water types that come in. Rock and Ground too, I suppose.

    Hidden Power [Ice] to smack Landorus and Substitute Zygarde. Infiltrator ignores Sub, so Zygarde can try hiding and using Coil, but Chandelure gives no damns, and HP Ice against Zygarde would be twice as effective as a regular Shadow Ball.
    Last edited: Dec 11, 2017
  4. Zapdos @ Leftovers
    Ability: Pressure
    EVs: 248 HP / 240 Def / 20 Spe
    Bold Nature
    - Discharge
    - Roost
    - Heat Wave
    - Defog

    Standard defensive Zap. Y'all brought this defensive core garbage to yourselves and now I can only help. SD (and banded) Kartana is becoming more and more popular lately along with AV bulu and this set deals with both of them while clearing nasty hazards from our soon to be stall/semi stall team. Knock Off Kartana/Sub Zygarde are still pretty annoying though so we'll need to find answers to those along with hazards and a win condition.
  5. Lugia-sama

    Lugia-sama Sagacity


  6. sanae

    sanae stop trying to be god ☆

    oh man the new usum trading card set has some good trainer FAs i need more money
  7. MetalSonic

    MetalSonic Orderan' Defendan'

    sent ;)


    Oh and look at that, two more nominees gunnin for the number two spot on the team!​

    Both were explained very well! One is a more offensive check to the things that ail Chansey, and can function as a revenge killer in that right as well as being fast and unpredictable in general as Scarf Chandy isnt too, too common. The other is more of a wall that provides us with more defensive measures due to its excellent defensive typing. 20 Speed EV's are for Adamant base 70's! Zapdos loves to switch in on things like Bulu, Pinsir, Celesteela, Sciz, Kart, you know, all the things its typing allows it to wall! Discharge is chosen over T-Bolt for its appreciated para chance.

    As you know, only one may be chosen! So vote and vote earnestly. Envision the kinda team you see this becoming!

    Chansey @ Eviolite
    Ability: Natural Cure
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpD
    Bold Nature
    - Toxic
    - Seismic Toss
    - Soft-Boiled
    - Counter

    USUM OU Viability Rankings

    USUM OU Role Compendium

    Votin for Second Mon shall end on
    December 15'th 12:00 PM UTC -6
  8. Spiky

    Spiky Prediction succesful

    PO/PS Name?: don't have that
    Wi-Fi Friend Code?: don't have that
    Why do you want to join?: Member coming back online after years to see how things have changed.
    Number of badges of Serebii Leagues?: Maybe I used to have one from a few years ago.
    Battling Experience?: I'm a retired competitive player.
    Referrer?: nobody
  9. MetalSonic

    MetalSonic Orderan' Defendan'

    Oh hey, is it the front page again? Welcome back, spiky! Havent seen you in a hot minute. I was just about to clean you off the members list due to inactivity! Luckily you were 1 day off.
  10. Lugia-sama

    Lugia-sama Sagacity

    Yo spiky

    Voting for Zapdos
  11. Spiky

    Spiky Prediction succesful

    All good. Can someone give me the link to the discord? Thanks in advance.
  12. golem12

    golem12 Dragon Trainer

    nice xD keep up the work
  13. BigKCBK

    BigKCBK Active Member

    Voting Zapdos!
  14. Conquer Phoenix

    Conquer Phoenix Falling Light

    voting for zapdos
  15. Erron Black

    Erron Black The Outlaw

    Voting Zapdos
  16. DX 2401PT

    DX 2401PT Monitor

    Also voting Zapdos (instead of my own thing) because... Defog. Kind of need that.
  17. MetalSonic

    MetalSonic Orderan' Defendan'


    hehe zapp​

    Now it's Zapdos, a very common pick alongside Chansey! We're able to offensively threaten common Pokemon that see Chansey as set up fodder while now allowing for a defogger. It's a simple core of physical wall and special wall that cover some of each others SE weaknesses! Though of course, this meta is full of wallbreakers that could still very easily break this 2-mon core down. Strong Rock type attacks from CB Tar, Rockium-Z Staka, Lando, to mixed attackers like Tapu Lele and CM Keldeo! So whether or not you want some offensive checks or some more defensive backbone, is totally up to yall! Carefully examine things in the meta and suggest accordingly. A 2-mon defensive blanket core is a very good start, but there's things out there that specialize in poking holes through a blanket like this. Not to mention other more defensive builds we may want to be able to threaten ourselves.

    USUM OU Viability Rankings

    USUM OU Role Compendium

    Third Mon Nominatin shall end on
    December 20'th 12:00 PM UTC -6
  18. Rocxidi

    Rocxidi ס₪₪₪§€ΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞ7

    this team loses to FEAR tailow
  19. Conquer Phoenix

    Conquer Phoenix Falling Light

    you have sown the wind of defense core and now you shall reap the bulu


    Tapu Bulu @ Assault Vest
    Ability: Grassy Surge
    EVs: 248 HP / 60 Atk / 56 SpD / 144 Spe
    Adamant Nature
    - Horn Leech
    - Wood Hammer
    - Superpower
    - Nature's Madness

    Chansey Zapdos both have some problems with lando and zyn so bulu is here to help out with that. AV Bulu is really common now with grassy surge taking care of thousand arrows which really hurt us right now and eq. AV helps it live through some special attacks thrown our way and bulu can hit back against most pokemon coming our with the exception of mega scizor and mag which zapdos and chansey help cover for.
  20. MetalSonic

    MetalSonic Orderan' Defendan'

    Alrighty! There'll be an extension since thats only fair as I didnt announce it yet.

    The extension will be till
    December 22'nd 11:00 AM UTC -6

    Also, theres thingies coming up! Stay informed and stay hydrated!

    I to, will suggest my own Bulu set!

    Tapu Bulu @ Rockium Z
    Ability: Grassy Surge
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
    Adamant Nature
    - Swords Dance
    - Horn Leech
    - Superpower
    - Stone Edge

    A Tapu Bulu set sounds nice, but specifically, the SD one does sound nicest imo! Bulus ability and typing allows it to check +1 Zygarde and set up alongside it with SD. Also checks physical Z-Wild Koko, physical offensive water type breakers like Mega Gyara and Crawdaunt, and especially Keldeo. When one fat team meets another and neither have very much offensive presence, its wall breakers like this that make things a bit easier! As mentioned, common Bulu counters like Scizor, Skarm, and Celesteela do tend to make Bulus life a pain. Zapdos does well to help keep these mons in line. As is the case on the other spectrum that is special attack in the case of Magearna, Heatran, and Greninja with Chanseys aid. Since the main goal of this Bulu is to break through other fat teams, it makes sense to make it Adamant as its that extra power that'll enable it to OHKO things like max HP mega Lati, Venusaur-Mega, and Tangrowth after rocks and a plus +2.​
    Last edited: Dec 23, 2017
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