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Weird moves certain Pokemon can or cannot learn

Pokefan_1987

#1 Biggest self proclaimed Rotom-Dex hater.
Not to mention, being fairies, it makes sense they can do a bunch of supernatural stuff, fairies being magical 'n' all.

That's one of those moves which probably isn't given to it to provide it strategic advantage so much as it fits its theme. Skuntank emits noxious gases, so it makes sense that they'd be flammable and be able to be used to start a fire. It's kind of like phanpy getting water gun by move tutor in Crystal. Irrelevant strategy-wise, but it suits the pokémon, so why not?
Elephants do drink a lot of water because of the heat. But the Copperajah line seems to break that elephant trend.
 

Luthor

Well-Known Member
The omission of Air Slash is why Beautifly wasn’t as great as the other butterfly Pokémon for a long time. Butterfree gets Air Slash, and Vivillon has Hurricane to make use of Compound Eyes’ accuracy boost. It’s so weird.

Yeah. Even Mothim has had Air Slash since gen 4. I hope they keep it as a regular part of Beautify's movepool moving forward. I also find it a bit surprising that Dutox and Venomoth don't get Air Slash considering that their fellow non-flying type Moth Frosmoth does get the move.
 

octoboy

I Crush Everything
Elephants do drink a lot of water because of the heat. But the Copperajah line seems to break that elephant trend.
Copperajah probably can't spray water because it's got a shovel for a trunk.
 

MrJechgo

Well-Known Member
If there's something odd about Copperajah, it's how it doesn't learn Smart Strike, when its tusks could be usable.
 

OshyHikari

c l a r i t y

Captain Jigglypuff

Leader of Jigglypuff Army
It’s because Smart Strike’s Japanese name is “Smart Horn”, which is why its learnset is mostly limited to Pokémon with visible horns, and some outliers like Mew, Togekiss and Kartana. Tusks aren’t exactly the same as horns.

Well Mew gets a pass since its entire gimmick is it can always learn every single TM and TR. It doesn’t need an explanation as everyone has accepted the fact that Mew being able to use X-Scissor with no claws as being part of its mysterious powers.
 

MrJechgo

Well-Known Member
Well Mew gets a pass since its entire gimmick is it can always learn every single TM and TR. It doesn’t need an explanation as everyone has accepted the fact that Mew being able to use X-Scissor with no claws as being part of its mysterious powers.
Mew can use Transform, so it wouldn't be weird for it to partially morph its body to use just about any move it can learn.
 

Luthor

Well-Known Member
Magikarp can't learn any other moves in legends Arceus other than splash (even by tutor). Even back in gen 1 it got tackle. Its been able to learn flail for a while, can often learn bounce and in sword and shield got hydro pump. This gets weirder when you realise Tackle and Hydro pump are in the games so its not like there was no options.
 

Captain Jigglypuff

Leader of Jigglypuff Army
Magikarp can't learn any other moves in legends Arceus other than splash (even by tutor). Even back in gen 1 it got tackle. Its been able to learn flail for a while, can often learn bounce and in sword and shield got hydro pump. This gets weirder when you realise Tackle and Hydro pump are in the games so its not like there was no options.
What about the Spheal line not being able to learn their own signature move Ice Ball via level up and only by Move Tutor in Legends? That is a weird thing to do considering it’s the move most associated with the line other than Rest and maybe Encore.
 

The_Orb

Member
Feraligatr not being able to learn Waterfall in gen 2 has always confused me.

That just had to have been an oversight, right?
 

Pokefan_1987

#1 Biggest self proclaimed Rotom-Dex hater.
Feraligatr not being able to learn Waterfall in gen 2 has always confused me.

That just had to have been an oversight, right?
Most likely since waterfall doesn't have many uses in Gen 2 and they didn't think that people would place a hm move on a starter?
 

Pokefan_1987

#1 Biggest self proclaimed Rotom-Dex hater.
I've always found it odd that Wingull can learn Shock Wave. Given that both of its types are weak to Electric and it can't learn any other electric moves.
What's even more odd?

Cosmog and Cosmoem (Nebby) can't learn anything. Couldn't they have let it at least learn Confusion? Splash and Teleport are absolutely useless in battles.
It's just stuck as a whining cloud and a superdensed heavy egg when it becomes cosmoem
 

Luthor

Well-Known Member
What's even more odd?

Cosmog and Cosmoem (Nebby) can't learn anything. Couldn't they have let it at least learn Confusion? Splash and Teleport are absolutely useless in battles.
It's just stuck as a whining cloud and a superdensed heavy egg when it becomes cosmoem

Yeah. Considering its supposed to be legendary I'd expect to be able to do something. Even if it was a weak move like you suggest with confusion or something that takes time to build power like stored power. Definitely odd.
 

Captain Jigglypuff

Leader of Jigglypuff Army
Yeah. Considering its supposed to be legendary I'd expect to be able to do something. Even if it was a weak move like you suggest with confusion or something that takes time to build power like stored power. Definitely odd.
I think Tackle would be perfect. It is not too strong and would allow them to survive a bit longer.
 

NeedsAName

Well-Known Member
What's even more odd?

Cosmog and Cosmoem (Nebby) can't learn anything. Couldn't they have let it at least learn Confusion? Splash and Teleport are absolutely useless in battles.
It's just stuck as a whining cloud and a superdensed heavy egg when it becomes cosmoem
Hidden Power? Pound? Flail? Secret Power?
 

Pokefan_1987

#1 Biggest self proclaimed Rotom-Dex hater.
Essentially Cosmog/Cosmoem a weird heavy load on a player team when the player gets it handed over.
 

OshyHikari

c l a r i t y
I've always found it odd that Wingull can learn Shock Wave. Given that both of its types are weak to Electric and it can't learn any other electric moves.
Shock Wave is one of those TMs that had such weird distribution. I can understand Psychic-types learning it, given most of them also got Thunderbolt, but Wingull of all Pokémon? Super ironic for it to learn a move that it’s 4x weak to.
 
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