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Weird moves certain Pokemon can or cannot learn

Pokefan_1987

Avid Pokemon TCG Card collector.
The move never specifies you need fists. Falinks, Arrokuda, Sharpedo, Xerneas, Honedge and even other birds like Unovan Braviary can all learn the move. The move states "the user fights the foe in close without guarding itself. It also cuts the user's Defense and Sp. Def.". In the anime Staraptor repeatedly kicks, pecks, and hits the opponent with its wings at a fast speed. It requires some form of physicality but its less specific.
It's more like recklessly fighting up close with body limbs or anything useable.
 

Yveltal91057

Luffy isn’t Luffy if it’s not boiled.
Ho-Oh is the only Fire/Flying type that can learn Ground type moves which doesn’t make a whole lot of sense. (Earth Power, Earthquake, Bulldoze)
 

Ignition

World's biggest Incineroar stan
Ho-Oh is the only Fire/Flying type that can learn Ground type moves which doesn’t make a whole lot of sense. (Earth Power, Earthquake, Bulldoze)
Charizard gets Earthquake plus both it and Moltres can learn Scorching Sands.
 

Pokefan_1987

Avid Pokemon TCG Card collector.

Captain Jigglypuff

Leader of Jigglypuff Army
While I don't know why they didn't have Power Gem, them not getting Aurora Veil makes sense. It was Alolan Ninetales' signature move, like how Mystical Fire, Mat Block, and Spiky Shield were unique to the Kalos starters in Gen VI but other Pokemon learned them in Gen VII.
Not quite true. Aurora Veil was a TM in Gen VII.
 

Sceptile Leaf Blade

Nighttime Guardian
Alolan Ninetales is the only Snow Warning Pokémon to get Aurora Veil in Alola, aside from Vulpix that is, which I suppose is kind of its signature trick. But other Pokémon do have access to Aurora Veil, like Articuno, Delibird, Regice, Sandslash, and Glaceon.
 

Palamon

Silence is Purple
Starapator can learn Close Combat, BUT HAS NO FISTS its a bird!
It has talons, though. So, it's not weird it can learn close combat.
 

octoboy

I Crush Everything
For Vanilite, I think it’s that its reflective surfaces allow it to use the move.
Yeah, and spritzee probably gets it because it's largely based on cosmetics, so it makes sense for it to be flashy.

Charizard gets Earthquake plus both it and Moltres can learn Scorching Sands.
To be fair, charizard at least looks heavy enough to pull off an earthquake, and a sand-based move is fine for a bird (pidgey's had sand attack since gen 1). Earthquake on a bird, though, seems pretty odd.
 

Pokefan_1987

Avid Pokemon TCG Card collector.
Fluffy cloud bird Altaria also gets Earthquake, I think that's weirder than Charizard getting it.
Maybe it's their odd way of giving dragon types physical moves to attack with.
 

Captain Jigglypuff

Leader of Jigglypuff Army
Maybe it's their odd way of giving dragon types physical moves to attack with.
I think that’s one reason since pre Gen IV Dragon moves were all Special. And Altria has some elemental mastery since it’s a Dragon. It can breath fire, create windstorms, make it rain, and even use Ice Beam so it does make sense that it could create an earthquake.
 

Pokefan_1987

Avid Pokemon TCG Card collector.
Even so, you'd think there'd be a better fit than earthquake on a bird.
Dragon/Flying is also a weird typing for a fluffy cloud bird that gains a temporary fairy type with a mega stone.
 

octoboy

I Crush Everything
Its certainly an odd fit but for me I find it more odd that Mantyke can learn Earthquake.
I mean, I guess if a stunfisk can make earthquakes...

Rays do hang out on the sand and stir up the ground. Weird fit for its typing, but maybe less so for its inspiration than altaria.
 

Pokefan_1987

Avid Pokemon TCG Card collector.
I mean, I guess if a stunfisk can make earthquakes...

Rays do hang out on the sand and stir up the ground. Weird fit for its typing, but maybe less so for its inspiration than Altaria.
It happens just because its in a game for Stunfisk. But realistically it's manta ray/fish design makes it seem not use to be strong and more like a minor disturbance.


Well, Earthquakes do happen underwater.
Still Mantyke and Mantine water creatures that mostly live in the ocean. It doesn't make sense for a winged water creature to make a ground move. Diglett line technically dig and move underground in groups all day long so they are logically able to cause earthquakes.
Lugia i always mistake for water/flying can learn earthquake since it's giant wings can cause big storms just by flying.

Actual fact: Swampert is a clearly a bulky muscle ground creature but with water abilities too. Those muscles just scream that they can cause serious damage by punching the ground. It even has a bigger emphasis on bulky attacks with 15 more points in direct attacks compared to Special Attack
 
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MidnightHo-Oh

Well-Known Member
Still Mantyke and Mantine water creatures that mostly live in the ocean. I doesn't make sense for a winged water creature (no hands) to make a ground move.
Lugia can learn earthquake since it's giant wings can cause big storms just by flying.
You've kind of contradicted yourself here, mate...

Mantine has relatively "giant wings" as well, and sorry to say that great gusts of wind from wings causing a storm does not directly translate to being able to cause an earthquake. Storms in no way have any part in causing earthquakes...
 
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