Weird moves certain Pokemon can or cannot learn

[Luthor]

Here's an odd one. Ludicolo despite being a Water/Grass type gets all the elemental punches. In particular Fire punch is quite rare for a Grass or a water type.

 

[MrJechgo]

I didn’t mean to imply it was a “secret” but the possibility of having the wrong Remoraid disappearing if you have two in your party is probably why Mantine’s in game battle sprite no longer has Remoraid.

What I meant by "secret" is that there probably wasn't a NPC that revealed how Mantyke evolved, so you could "accidentally" evolve it with a Remoraid on your team, and if it disappeared, it would screw you over ^^;

 

[Spider-Phoenix]

Here's an odd one. Ludicolo despite being a Water/Grass type gets all the elemental punches. In particular Fire punch is quite rare for a Grass or a water type.

And Luxray gets all Fang moves.

And yeah, Guts Luxray with Ice Fang is a ice thing, getting near-perfect coverage since it hits the grass and ground types that resist it.

 

[Captain Jigglypuff]

And Luxray gets all Fang moves.

And yeah, Guts Luxray with Ice Fang is a ice thing, getting near-perfect coverage since it hits the grass and ground types that resist it.

Not all Fang moves. Luxray doesn’t get Poison Fangs which makes sense. Poison Fangs is a Fang move that is boosted by Strong Jaw.

 

[Trillion]

What I meant by "secret" is that there probably wasn't a NPC that revealed how Mantyke evolved, so you could "accidentally" evolve it with a Remoraid on your team, and if it disappeared, it would screw you over ^^;

the remoraid would still be there

 

[Spider-Phoenix]

Not all Fang moves. Luxray doesn’t get Poison Fangs which makes sense. Poison Fangs is a Fang move that is boosted by Strong Jaw.

I said elemental fangs as in the "Fire, Ice and Thunder" set

 

[MrJechgo]

the remoraid would still be there

Well, that's the thing: the Remoraid doesn't disappear, so Mantine doesn't have it attached to it. In Mantyke evoled with a Remoraid THAT disappeared, that Mantine would have it... but you would lose a potentially good Remoraid ^^;

 

[MidnightHo-Oh]

I said elemental fangs as in the "Fire, Ice and Thunder" set

And Luxray gets all Fang moves.

 

[Spider-Phoenix]

I end up forgetting to put "elemental fangs" the first time but point taken.

 

[Pokefan_1987]

Buzzwole gets acess to most of the elemental punches although Ice Punch which would hurt it since its a insect and they can't handle the cold. But it can't get Close Combat or Seismic Toss which would be easy for a something so muscular and can fly.

 

[octoboy]

Buzzwole gets acess to most of the elemental punches although Ice Punch which would hurt it since its a insect and they can't handle the cold. But it can't get Close Combat or Seismic Toss which would be easy for a something so muscular and can fly.

Ice actually isn't even super effective against bug types, surprisingly enough. The ones that do have an ice weakness have it due to a secondary type they have, like butterfree's flying type, or parasect's grass type. If any elemental punch would be a problem for buzzwole, it'll be fire punch, as it does have a fire weakness.

I totally agree with the fighting type moves, though, you'd think buzzwole would be capable of those.

 

[Luthor]

Buzzwole gets acess to most of the elemental punches although Ice Punch which would hurt it since its a insect and they can't handle the cold. But it can't get Close Combat or Seismic Toss which would be easy for a something so muscular and can fly.

Buzzwole does get Close Combat in gen 8 by TR53.

 

[MrJechgo]

Morpeko learns Thunder, Fire, Ice, Psychic and Super Fang, but doesn't learn Hyper or Poison Fang.

 

[Yveltal91057]

Considering that it’s a pure Fighting type, Grapploct is capable of learning Ice Punch, but can’t learn Fire Punch and Thunder Punch for some strange reason.

 

[octoboy]

Grapploct is capable of learning Ice Punch, but can’t learn Fire Punch and Thunder Punch for some strange reason.

It's an octopus, so I guess it lives in the water and wouldn't be able to ignite its arm? And trying to electrify its arm would be a bad idea underwater (I guess that doesn't stop lanturn from being lanturn, but ehh).

 

[Yveltal91057]

It's an octopus, so I guess it lives in the water and wouldn't be able to ignite its arm? And trying to electrify its arm would be a bad idea underwater (I guess that doesn't stop lanturn from being lanturn, but ehh).

If it was Water/Fighting instead of being a pure Fighting type, I understand Grapploct not being able to learn Thunder Punch and Fire Punch. However, the fact that it’s still a pure Fighting type shouldn’t stop it from learning those two moves.

 

[MidnightHo-Oh]

If it was Water/Fighting instead of being a pure Fighting type, I understand Grapploct not being able to learn Thunder Punch and Fire Punch. However, the fact that it’s still a pure Fighting type shouldn’t stop it from learning those two moves.

It still lives in the water as an octopus, just as Stunfisk and Lugia each live in the water despite no Water-typing

 

[Luthor]

Dragapult can learn Dragon Claw but not shadow claw which is weird on its own. It also lacks both Poltergeist (which is a common move for alot of Ghosts because it is by move tutor) and Shadow Sneak (which I'd expect something ghostly and fast like Dragapult to get).

 

[Spider-Phoenix]

Shadow Sneak sounds like only useful for situations like a Trick Room being up for someone having a priority move like Ice Shard.

Completly agreed on Shadow Claw and Polteageist though

 

[Luthor]

Shadow Sneak sounds like only useful for situations like a Trick Room being up for someone having a priority move like Ice Shard.

Completly agreed on Shadow Claw and Polteageist though

Yeah you're probably right on Shadow Sneak's usefulness but to be honest Shadow Sneak just stuck out to me considering moving fast is something Dragapult can do so I'd expect it to get as its a fast ghost type. I'd have that in its movepool over quick attack for the minor stab boost.