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Well Apparently This Team Aint Worth Arse

SKYUPPERCUT60

VIVA LA RAZA
Salamence (M) @ Choice Band ** I HAVE SALA. GG
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 252 Atk / 244 Spd / 12 SAtk
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Flamethrower
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Rock Slide

Hitmontop (M) @ Leftovers ** WHAT DO TOPS DO
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 252 HP / 188 Atk / 68 Def
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Brick Break
- Hidden Power [Bug]
- Rapid Spin
- Rock Slide

Porygon2 @ Leftovers ** RAPE PART II
Trait: Trace
EVs: 228 HP / 172 Def / 108 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Recover
- Thunder Wave
- Thunderbolt

Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers ** WHERES KFC AT
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 204 HP / 120 Atk / 4 Spd / 40 SAtk / 140 SDef
Sassy Nature (+SDef, -Spd)
- Body Slam
- Earthquake
- Fire Blast
- Focus Punch

Celebi @ Leftovers ** SAMOA JOE~!
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 236 HP / 148 Def / 68 SAtk / 56 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Leech Seed
- Psychic
- Recover

Metagross @ Leftovers ** WHATS MY NAME
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 140 HP / 232 Atk / 76 Def / 60 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Meteor Mash
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
 

SealElement

Volcano Trainer OSHI
Donphan is better at spinning than hitmontop, imo.

stalkgross?*points to celebi*

Lax wants a Choice band or Curse, cause he isn't staying long against heracross.
 

aipomkong

prophecy fulfilled
lax needs 182+ satk to 2hko skarm after leftovers
 

Delta

Nazi emperor
have fun switching into CBgross
 

Raito

HADOUKEN!
Hitmonlee is better at spinning than Top. It can also EndRev, and has awesome Special Defense and Attack. Somewhat excellent Speed and SubPar Defense that can be solved with EVs[/selling Hitmonlee]

Besides, Top gets Hi Jump Kick. Use it. HJK>Brick Break

Meh, I always saw Celebi as a B-Passer, but that can work.
 

aipomkong

prophecy fulfilled
Raito Light said:
Hitmonlee is better at spinning than Top. It can also EndRev, and has awesome Special Defense and Attack. Somewhat excellent Speed and SubPar Defense that can be solved with EVs[/selling Hitmonlee]

Besides, Top gets Hi Jump Kick. Use it. HJK>Brick Break

Meh, I always saw Celebi as a B-Passer, but that can work.

Hitmonlee used Rapid Spin!
Pokemon used move
Hitmonlee fainted

and i'd like to see hitmonlee/hitmontop rapid spin skarmorys ****
 

SealElement

Volcano Trainer OSHI
I just noticed that Lax has Sassy but Speed EVs. wtf?

Donphan > Hitmontop > Hitmonlee. It's as simple as that.
 

Pax Deorum

Tempus Vernum
except there are better spinners along the way
 

Shichiro

pokemon
Use Hitmontop in UU imo, it kinda fails here. Bulk Upper is cool.
 

snorlax

Banned
actually

Starmie>Donphan>Claydol>Forretress>...>...>...>...>...>...>Hitmontop
 

WhiteWizard42

Master Breeder
snorlax said:
actually

Starmie>Donphan>Claydol>Forretress>...>...>...>...>...>...>Hitmontop
>delibird.
 

aipomkong

prophecy fulfilled
snorlax said:
actually

Starmie>Donphan>Claydol>Forretress>...>...>...>...>...>...>Hitmontop

seriously what the ****

Starmie can't spin well, it can't switch into any spiker freely, and is forced to either, die to milotic and gyarados, or die to mence and has to constantly recover.

Claydol is clearly better then Donphan because of spikes immunity and it can actually toxic dusclops on the switch, where-as donphan needs a CB to do any meaningful damage to 'Clops.

Forretress is a good spinner, just a terrible spiker and attacker, and is a better spinner then both starmie and donphan.

it's more like

Claydol, Forretress, Donphan, Cloyster (which you completly forgot), Starmie
 

snorlax

Banned
starmie can switch into any spiker and spin unless hp bug Forry

but yeah

Claydol>Donphan
 

aipomkong

prophecy fulfilled
Skamory's Hp Fly + 3 layers of spikes = 50%+ damage

Claydol's EQ + 3 layers of spikes = 50%+ damage

Donphan's EQ + 3 layers of spikes = 75%+ damage

hardly safe switch ins
 

Delta

Nazi emperor
hm, claydol and donphan aren't spikers, so starmie shouldn't switch into them

starmie is the best spiner tbh, actually being able to 3hko dusclops without getting screwed by wisp (shadow ball doesn't ohko), having more durability than any spiner with recover, and having good speed to clean and a good movepool to generally own any other water except for swampert

Edit: also, starmie is, along with cloyster, the only spiner that owns sub skarm, since ice beam claydol doesn't break the sub if skarm has max hp
 
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