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What are you views about Lana from SM

Discussion in 'Pokémon Animé Discussion' started by AshxSatoshi, Aug 3, 2019.

  1. Leonhart

    Leonhart The Lying King

    I was worried that her Ashirene would end up becoming too much of a powerhouse, but I was wrong since it's been pretty average. I'm still a bit disappointed that Ashirene has overshadowed Nagisa, however. Nagisa really is just a plush doll at this point.
     
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  2. Poke Master 7

    Poke Master 7 Boulder Trainer

    Yea given how the writers have really done nothing with Sandy, I really wonder just what the point even was in them giving her the Eevee that was obviously meant to advertise Let’s Go. For all that, they should have just given Lana the Dewpider from the earlier episode and given Ash Eevee so he’d at least have a full team and she’d actually get use other than being glorified window dressing.
     
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  3. Sham

    Sham Underrated show

    Because she never was that strong, sure she was stronger than Mallow but look who that’s comparing her to. Once she was up a bigger force than herself; she got laid out.
     
  4. DatsRight

    DatsRight Well-Known Member

    I think that was the recurring issue with them, they weren't challenged often. They were kept very complacent without much pushing them in battling or whatever else they put their attention to. They accepted to showcasing their limit in battling, but at the eleventh hour in the series where they can't really play off of it in a later arc or anything. Their roles in cooking and bubble making weren't really offered new challenges or steps either.

    I think Sandy and Shaymin suffer in that regard. The other secondaries among the group represented a new step for the trainers to adjust to, a hole in their agenda their signature couldn't currently fix, but the two don't really have any substance to play on for Lana and Mallow.
     
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  5. Poke Master 7

    Poke Master 7 Boulder Trainer

    Honestly it’s a genuine shame she didn’t hit that kind of wall earlier. It could have been a great point of development for her. It’d essentially be the story of having been a big fish in a small pond. Once put into the sea, she’d be forced to grow in her style due to there being such strong trainers out there.
     
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  6. DatsRight

    DatsRight Well-Known Member

    Yeah, the thing is most of the students had a similar 'big fish in small pond' arc much earlier. Kiawe had that point when he met Marowak, all the way in Season One (with odd bits of foreshadowing beforehand). The same episode shown him making genuine attempts to evolve out of it, learning Turtonator Shell Smash and capturing the more agile Marowak, no longer leaving him over reliant on his tanking battle style. We kept getting tidbits of him becoming more versatile in his limelight, making him feel dynamic, making his battle prowess seem fleshed out, hence him managing to get to the semi final in the league.

    Lana and Mallow realising how they had held themselves back TWO SEASONS AFTERWARDS, when the series was almost finished. There's not nearly as much time for them to play on this development in a cathartic way, and it also means they spent the large majority of the series without a fallible quality to work on.
     
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  7. WhiteBlair

    WhiteBlair Well-Known Member

    Lana is probably the only character in the entire Pokémon anime that I didn't like her design initially, thus didn't think I'd be interested to follow her story, but somehow changed my mind in the process. Her development was staggering: perfect up until the episode 32(?) where she obtained her Z-Ring, but quickly turned stale as writers didn't give her any Pokémon at all and let Popplio stay unevolved for a very, very, long time.

    Sandy's introduction to her team didn't go well, as it was late and we haven't seen her in action so, it just felt like LGPE promotion with unique haircut if anything. Popplio literally evolved into Brionne, then into Primarina, within a matter of a few episodes; the development felt short compared to Torracat.

    I like Lana and think she is cool. She is definitely up there with Ash and Kiawe and I'd really would've loved to see her as the only remaining female contestant to reach the Top 4. At least, the writers did her character justice by displaying her competitive spirit in all her battles, plus hooking up the mighty Kyogre.
     
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  8. Zoruagible

    Zoruagible Lover of underrated characters

    Let's check off the list shall we?
    Ugly? Check
    Got a fully evolved starter at a super fast pace without any work? Check
    Hogged spotlight? Check
    Stole the Water trial? Check
    Basically a Mary Sue at everything? Check check

    She's the worst character ever conceived.
    And the one character I refuse to respect fans of
     
  9. Hanto

    Hanto Water Addiction

    Lets call all the characters without scleras ugly.
    What about freaking Goodra? What about Mamoswine and Steenee?
    Maybe you meant Ash Ketchum or Lycanroc/Pikachu?
    Not only Ash allowed to participate in trials. Team Rocket literally did the same thing with Ghost Trial, but you do not blame them.
    Alain/Cilan says hi.
     
  10. Leonhart

    Leonhart The Lying King

    I do think that Satoshi should've just gotten Eievui instead since he could've promoted it without it simply being a plush doll for the rest of the saga, and Suiren could've easily have gotten a Shizukumo or even something like Namakobushi, which could've had a gag.
     
  11. Sham

    Sham Underrated show

    One thing that bothered me was the classmates having a “moral ground” concerning how Guzma defeated Lana. First of all no cheering in the world was going to change the outcome. Secondly he didn’t break any rules or conduct in the battle. Lana was simply up against someone stronger than herself and that’s why she got defeated. Of course Guzma was going to try to restrict Primarina when she kept trying to run the entire battle since Lana knew she had no chance. The whole “avenge Surien” was one major eye roll. I’m glad Kiawe was there to actually say that Guzma didn’t do anything wrong.
     
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  12. Poke Master 7

    Poke Master 7 Boulder Trainer

    Yea I mean Guzma May be a jerk but he’s a skilled and pragmatic trainer. Even Paul showed a ruthless pragmatism to his battles. Just look at his battle with Ash when he used Drapion. That thing was ruthless.
     
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  13. MockingJ

    MockingJ (づ。◕‿‿◕。)づ

    I didn't even consider Guzma's battle against Lana to be that ruthless to tell the truth. Lana had every opportunity to surrender if she felt that Primarina was in actual danger and Guzma was within his right to use Golisopod's strongest attacks on his opponent.
     
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  14. Leonhart

    Leonhart The Lying King

    I normally like it when Satoshi's friends try to unite for a common cause since their hearts are usually in the right place when it comes to that, but I agree that this time they seemed a bit out of their depth since Guzma didn't break any rules. He was pragmatic and maybe even a bit sadistic in how he handled Ashirene, but Satoshi's friends wanting justice for Suiren isn't something that I can get behind since Guzma technically didn't do anything worth getting revenge over.
     
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  15. Sham

    Sham Underrated show

    Exactly, the whole thing came off as petty and “I don’t like you because you’re the bad guy and defeated my friend). I’m glad all the classmates didn’t co-sign that (most notably Kiawe and Ash) but it still rubbed me the wrong way.
     
  16. CMButch

    CMButch Well-Known Member

    1.I don't think she's ugly, she's not a beauty but more of average girl. But again this is fictional girl, so it's kinda pointless.
    2.Charizard.
    3. From who?Lillie? Lillie is still more important than Lana. Also what do you except from 8 main characters in SM ( not including Pokemon).
    4. From who? James?
    5. If she was she would've beaten Guzma xd.
     
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  17. Ignition

    Ignition Buttwitch needs more appreciation

    Semi unrelated: I mean Charizard literally had an entire arc centered around how his rapid growth caused a major issue to Ash as a Trainer and Ash had to work to gain his trust and battle properly. There was only a few times Popplio/Brionne/Primarina actively struggled so I don’t think Charizard & Primarina should be compared
     
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  18. AuraChannelerChris

    AuraChannelerChris "Where's the KISS concert at?"

    Ash's Charizard just became a massive jerk out of the blue even as a Charmeleon.

    Dude saves you from dying in the rain and THIS is how you repay him? Maybe as a Charmander he thought Ash was worthy of him, but clearly a Charmeleon was too good for the kid!

    Trevor was lucky, all things considered.
     
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  19. MockingJ

    MockingJ (づ。◕‿‿◕。)づ

    I don't think she's ugly either, just normal looking for a girl. Kind of like the female version of Cilan because of her eyes.
     
  20. Poke Master 7

    Poke Master 7 Boulder Trainer

    Yea and even beyond that, Charmander was a strong battler that Ash frequently used between regular battles, TR battles, gym battles and even the one who helped him capture a rampaging Primape. Him evolving was most definitely earned compared to Poplio.
     
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