I think it really depends on how they'd connect it. I think a moment Giovanni is FINALLY relevent to Ash's journey would be a good idea, but I think it would still need to tie into the TRio to work.
Yeah I miss misty temper. Kinda hated that it was basically gone by sm. She just felt like the generic nice and upbeat female character like the other sm girls. And it felt like an actual flaw, which I feel the anime has been lacking in a way when it comes to the new companions since AG
Misty actually received more screen time in Johto than she did in Orange or Kanto developing most right after Ash. She entered more competitions (ex: seaking catching, whirl cup, altomare race) did something big about her goal like entering Whirl Cup, battled more trainers, helped save group couple of times like she get them out of forest in Hoot,Hoot episode or helped to save Pikachu and Togepi from giant TR tank as well some of her pokemon receiving some character development evolving like Poliwhirl for example
This^ Completely agree. However I do feel Misty should've gotten more. And OI especially wasted this potential.
Yes, OI definitely should have been given to Misty instead. Yes, there definitely could've been more done to flesh out her ambitions and her goals. The fact that she was such a feisty girl with a fiery personality at times but was an ardent water pokemon trainer represented such a unique dichotomy that I haven't seen in any other character.
Lets not forget AG was also very filler heavy, and nothing caught my interest.
The mistreatment with May comes into play when she herself got too good at contests way tooooo quickly. She seemed pretty much like a Mary Sue type of character and never really struggled much in her contests. It always seems like she passed the appeal rounds without any big problems. I really think that she should have lost in her last Kanto contest tbh, even though Team Rocket and Harley sabotaged her appeal, I still think it was very much unrealistic for her to pass to the next round, when a year or so later in DP Dawn didn't even pass the appeal rounds, not once but twice and she never fell or had any slip ups that May had in her last Kanto contest. Also in the battle rounds, it almost seemed like she always won in some kind of cheap DEM way imo. It really felt like things were always handed to her easily and she really never had to work much at anything. I would have loved to see her fail in some of the appeal rounds in her contests, especially her last Kanto contest and for her to fail some more, so that she could actually learn from her mistakes and develop more as a character.
The reason I enjoyed Misty's more feisty and hotheaded temper was because it made her stand out compared to all the other girls. Now sure, it would be dishonest to say none of the girls had flaws (Dawn's overconfidence in DP for example), but I also feel Misty's flaws made her interesting. I LIKE that she wasn't just a do goder/bubbly character all the time, she had a lot of jadedness to her character, I just think the show didn't captialize on those nuances well. Beyond developing her bond with Psyduck in sm, which was nice to see, I dislike how since Hoenn she feels drained of her feisty persona beyond her battle with Ash in SM. As someone who has expressed bouts of insecurities and such with anger growing up, I find its relatable to some degree. Plus I tend to just think having a nastier side feels more interesting. The other Pokegirls may have had better treatment and development, but I enjoyed Misty's personality the most.
What are your thoughts on May Vs Grace?
You hit all my points on target. Especially with May. LOL With OI Misty, It always bothered me how this was a season where the entire progression was being out in he ocean. Yet the writers NEVER thought to captialize on the fact Misty was a trained swimmer and had a goal to train water types? Even if say Goldeen lacked in battles, why not show it's characteristics in other ways? Like being fast underwater or some kind of competition that could showcase Water pokemon in different ways beyond battling? At least in johto when episodes focused on her she actually got development with her Pokemon and active battles that weren't gag fights. LMAO
Yes, I completely agree with you. Whatever Ash did in OI should have just been completely given to Misty. Yeah but she does have some inner growth and competes in more water Pokémon related activities as the show goes on. It’s not much because the OS was solely focused on Ash, Misty/Brock were just sidekicks and supporting characters so they were never going to get much focus individually.
Which fight of May's did you find the most DEM? For me it was May vs phantom or May vs Brock
that was her first contest win right? The one where Beautifly fights Medicham?
Almost all of May's wins were through blatant use of plot armor. The worst offenders being May vs Phantom, May vs Harley (specifically the one where May's Squirtle fought against Harley's Ariados) and May vs Brock. To articulate further, with May vs Phantom, firstly she uses Skitty who's moveset is comprised of 3 normal moves and a not mastered Blizzard. And her entire strategy was to spam Assist and hope it would work out, then she gets lucky when Skitty learns to master Blizzard at the most convenient moment. With Squirtle vs Ariados, Squirtle was inexperienced with Ice Beam, yet despite this it somehow was able to do well enough to score her the win last minute when the out of control move froze the spider webs? Yet Ariados has the upper hand the whole fight. (Slightly off note, but she once defeated Harley's Banette under the use of Jessie using Rapid Spin and Tackle, two normal type moves. And Tackle was used as the finishing blow!) May vs Brock is even worse, Brock's Marshtomp is completely dominating the whole fight and countering any of Eevee's offenses, even to the point it couldn't use Dig to avoid hits. Then somehow May wins the battle because Eevee manage to get a couple of Tackle's in moments before the timer ended; Despite Brock clearly having the bigger advantage the entire time.
Yes. Grace didn't show any kind of strategy use like the kind that she displayed when battling Drew and many of the moves May used here were never hinted at being able to be used before (Tackle with a Gust attack protecting it, Tackle with a Gust attack while using Silver Wind at the same time, etc). It's as though she suddenly got better since her last battle. That's poor writing especially since we know that May hasn't had much battling experience. Beautifly being used by May has absolutely nothing to do with her ability as a strategist, as a coordinator, or the ability of the Pokemon itself. When in just the previous episode, Beautifly couldn't use Gust, Tackle, and String Shot at the same time. There was no training after that point and absolutely nothing to suggest that Beautifly could do three moves at the same time. May showed no strategical ability beforehand against an opponent who was shown to be a better strategist than Drew who was leagues beyond May at that point.
