thunder2910
Loves pizza
in my opinion greninja should be able to learn aqua jet, I mean it is a ninja and aqua jet has first priority....
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What attacks should they be given?
- Thread starter Sprinter1988
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Why would you want Aqua Jet when you have Water Shuriken?
Blaze The Movie Fan
Reviewer and PokéFan
But the issue here is that they aren't in shells (or evolve from a Pokémon who is in shells) so it wouldn't make sense for them to learn that move.
With maybe the exception of the last two.
Neither are Torkoal and Carracosta.
Sprinter1988
Well-Known Member
Technically those are shells, as are what Lapras, Torterra and Samurott have, hence why they can all have the ability Shell Armor.
Binacle and Barbaracle don't see a problem with that.
Sprinter1988
Well-Known Member
I miss the BubbleBeam TM. I know its not the absolute best of moves (let's face it though, not all TM's are) but it was decent enough with plenty of pokemon able to learn it as a coverage move. Also there are some pokemon who should learn it but don't. Vaporeon, for example, is the "Bubble Jet Pokemon" and yet it learns neither Bubble nor BubbleBeam. What the hell?!
I feel like Squirtle and Froakie should be able to learn BubbleBeam as well, as they both learn Bubble via Level Up.
Also there's one other thing I miss not being able to do. In Crystal it was possible for Phanpy to get the move Water Gun as an egg move by having Wooper, Quagsire or Vaporeon as its father. I'll admit that Water Gun is far from a good move and there is absolutely no reason to have it on Phanpy other than I don't like that I can't! I get why TM's come and go, as do Move Tutors, but surely if a pokemon can learn a move through level up or through breeding once it should be able to always do so!
I feel like Squirtle and Froakie should be able to learn BubbleBeam as well, as they both learn Bubble via Level Up.
Also there's one other thing I miss not being able to do. In Crystal it was possible for Phanpy to get the move Water Gun as an egg move by having Wooper, Quagsire or Vaporeon as its father. I'll admit that Water Gun is far from a good move and there is absolutely no reason to have it on Phanpy other than I don't like that I can't! I get why TM's come and go, as do Move Tutors, but surely if a pokemon can learn a move through level up or through breeding once it should be able to always do so!
Sprinter1988
Well-Known Member
How about allowing Pinsir to learn a flying type move. That way at least some good will come from it's mega-evo being yet another bug/flying type!
Hidden Power
Well-Known Member
Do you even know what mega pinsir's ability does in battle...?
How about looking at Mega Pinsir's ability?
Blaze The Movie Fan
Reviewer and PokéFan
And at the top of that it wouldn't make sense if regular Pinsir could learn flying type moves.
I mean think about it, how would regular Pinsir be able to use brave bird or wing attack without any wings?
Sprinter1988
Well-Known Member
Oh yeah. Whoops. I haven't bothered training my Pinsir yet, so that kind of stuff isn't tattoo'd into my brain.
It could still learn Aerial Ace like Typhlosion, Drapion, Stoutland, Arcanine, Tyrantrum, Dedenne, Sandslash, Leafeon, Gallade, Serperior, Samurott, Liepard Krookodile, Garchomp, Heracross, Armaldo, Absol, Gogoat, Kecleon, Kricketune, Ambipom, Purugly, Aegislash, Zangoose, Crawdaunt, Heatmor, Durant, Nidoqueen, Greninja, Chesnaught, Malamar, Barbaracle, Persian, Tyranitar, Bisharp, Feraligatr, Mienshao, Bouffalant, Sableye, Parasect, Ursaring, Beartic, Pangoro, Aggron, Weavile, Slaking, Marowak, Ferrothorn, Haxorus, Primeape, Excadrill, Golduck, Leavanny, Crustle, Zoroark and all those other pokemon that learn it with no wings, no other mode of flight and are not of the flying type.
Also, Blaziken can use Brave Bird and it neither has wings nor can fly (ok, this doesn't give a reason for Pinsir to learn it, but I just thought that I'd point out that little flaw!)
Well apparently Aerial Ace is based on a sword technique made by some guy called Sasaki Kojiro, so pokemon that have claws or other sharp body parts can learn the move.
Sprinter1988
Well-Known Member
Hence my original point - Pinsir should learn it.
Shayminslicker
Comes out of Nowhere
Snorlax should learn Slack off. Pretty self explanatory why.
ashcrimson777
Newb Shiny Hunter
yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hidden Power
Well-Known Member
And then have absolutely no use for it. It's a redundant addition. Even the usual Flying type Pokemon don't use it competitively despite getting STAB, much less a normal, STABless Pinsir. A mega Pinsir only boost Aerial Ace to 90 base power, whereas an aerilated Return is 130 base power.
Hexin' Wishes
Diva Extraordinaire
Maybe you guys can find a good reason other than "because it is so" but I find it odd that Zoroark can't be bred to have Play Rough.
Certainly you'd expect rough play from Zorua/Zoroark moreso than Skrelp!
Certainly you'd expect rough play from Zorua/Zoroark moreso than Skrelp!
Blaze The Movie Fan
Reviewer and PokéFan
How exactly would that make sense that Zoroak could learn rough play?
I'm not saying you're wrong, but I'm curious to hear your reasons.