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What do you think it is? :l

Discussion in '5th Gen In-Game RMT' started by Angeltripper, Nov 10, 2012.

  1. Angeltripper

    Angeltripper ♥ Ace ♥

    Bonjour my minions. ah am bobyjoe. I haseth Black 2 for just over a week, and I need a team rate. I really need help w/ single Super Train.

    Dragonite@Persim Berry
    ~Dragon Dance

    The Bulky Powerhouse. He hits hard, and with DD, he gets very fast and even stronger. Multiscale pretty much protects me from any non-Ice type pokemon or Haxorus' Outrage. Outrage is Main STAB. Fly for another STAB, and cover for grass, Bug and fighting. Earthquake gets Rock and Steel, as well as Electric.

    Lucario @Focus Sash
    ~Ice Punch
    ~Stone Edge/Swords Dance
    ~Close Combat

    I hate his nature, but he's more physical anyways. He's like Maylene's. CC + Sash = ES = Kill. Ice Punch gets Dragons and ground types, and if I don't want to miss, for flying types. Stone Edge gets bugs, flyers, etc., but I can always replace for SD.

    Volcarona@Expert Belt
    ~Quiver Dance
    ~Fiery Dance
    ~Bug Buzz

    My Special powerhouse. Pretty fast, and can usually OHKO. Psychic for Poison and fighting types. Quiver Dance for Power-up.Bug Buzz for Main STAB, and Fiery Dance over FT cuz SP.ATK raise come commonly. Decent Special Bulk as well.

    Vaporeon @Mystic Water
    ~Hyper Voice/Wish
    ~Shadow Ball
    ~Ice Beam

    I love Vaporeon. Great nature, defenses and can take out any dragonite, salamence or garchomp that tries to beat it with Ice Beam. Surf for STAB. Shadow Ball for Jellicent, and Hyper Voice + Surf = Lots of coverage. Although I could replace HV for Wish, which with Vappy, is verry good. HP over Speed EVs due to already low defense and high HP.

    Umbreon @Lefties
    ~Quick Attack/Sucker Punch

    MORE EEVEELUTIONS! Umbreon is the defensive beast of my team, able to take a DD Outrage from a garchomp. Moonlight for recovery, Quick Attack/Sucker Punch for priority, Payback for STAB, and with Toxic, I can out stall any non-Steel types or some bulky Poison types. People have been suggesting Curse over Snarl, but I really don't want to breed my Umbreon...

    Zoroark @Life Orb
    ~Night Daze
    ~HP Fight

    Pretty much Umbreon's Physical counterpart. He is mixed, and good at it too. Using illusion, I usually pair him up with Crobat, as both Bug and Fight are 4x weak against crobat, and psychic is SE, confusing the opponent. Flamethrower and HP for Steel types, as well as Dark and rock for HP, Night Daze for STAB, U-Turn for a physical move just in case Blitchy the Blissey decides to come, as well as for scouting.
    Last edited: Nov 24, 2012
  2. Shine

    Shine Psyched Up Staff Member Moderator

    Comments in bold :)
  3. SmeargleRocks

    SmeargleRocks Reputable Trader

    I don't suggest using return unless you put in the friendship and its stabbed with decent physical attack hyper voice although it does effect both opponents or all in a triple battle it gets no coverage against anything and if it faces a rock, steel, or ghost type your doomed to a lengthy battle, on umbreon yes payback does a lot of damage but with the amount of physical attackers these days used you should probably go for foul play via move tutor or even shadow ball since it isn't careful or adamant, ice punch its decent on Lucario but only against grounds and flyings and dragons, stone edge gets more power but less accuracy but does get slightly better coverage and enough damage to make a fuss over or get rid of rock slide for stone edge, I don't suggest using duel chop with it though I tried it and it does very little damage when not stabbed with haxorus or possibly garchomp, back to umbreon, based on umbreon's HP you should switch my idea of shadow ball

    EDIT: my bad didn't realize I was looking at Shine's post my bad didn't see the corrections, listen to him, but yes get rid of aura sphere and dark pulse
  4. Shine

    Shine Psyched Up Staff Member Moderator

    It will eventually has max friendship, as long as it is kept in the team and never faint.

    Vappy? It has Surf for Rocks and Steels, and Shadow Ball for Ghosts. Also, Water + Normal actually has a wide coverage :)

    Shadow Ball doesn't get STAB, and with a +Attack Nature, surely a physical attack like Payback is better.

    Foul Play is unreliable, what if the opponent is something like a Jellicent, which has low Attack?

    Rock Slide VS Stone Edge is just the classic "power VS accuracy" thing. I admit, I should have put SE as an option next to RS.
    Ice Punch is indeed for Grounds and Dragons. Flying is taken care by the Rock move ;)

    ....but no one, not even me, mentioned Dual Chop ._.
  5. Aura Sensei™

    Aura Sensei™ User Title

    I thinks it iz a kewl team. Y r u posting natures if they s0ck?

    Damnit Shine , why Quote?

    Nasty Plot > Return , Zoroark gets it by Level , and Focus Miss > Hidden Power for nearly unresisted coverage.
  6. Angeltripper

    Angeltripper ♥ Ace ♥

    Alright, I got a new Lucario, EV'd it and now it just needs CC, ES and IP. I have Stone Edge already though.

    Vaporeon I should be fine on. It just has Waterfall left, but I need to know, is HV a move tutor move?

    Sceptile, I believe AT is a tutor move, right?

    Considering I'll need a new Crobat, I haven't started on him yet.

    Haven't touched Umbreon yet, but I will.

    Lastly, I need to get HP from the Subway. And yes, it is N's.

    The actual last thing, I need to reset Zoroark, Umbreon, Serperior, and Vaporeon's EVs with the Beauty Salon in Join . But I do need help distributional them
  7. Dragoniteftw

    Dragoniteftw SWAGONITE

    I'd put sword dance on lucario instead of rock slide.
  8. Angeltripper

    Angeltripper ♥ Ace ♥

    I thought of that and well, I'd like a couple other's advice to see if I should change Stone Edge to SD
  9. azeem40

    azeem40 Pokemon is fun!

    Fighting and Ghost already has unresisted(?) neutral coverage, so I'd go with SD to boost its massive Atk higher. Maybe even Agility as it does have mediocre speed, but not too low of bulk to survive hits.
  10. Angeltripper

    Angeltripper ♥ Ace ♥

    Where do you get Ghost? Lucario has Fighting, Ice, Rock and Normal? BTW edited first post
  11. azeem40

    azeem40 Pokemon is fun!

    I meant Fighting and Ice.
  12. Angeltripper

    Angeltripper ♥ Ace ♥

    hmmm, that is true. lots of covering, but i'll need more opinions
  13. Shine

    Shine Psyched Up Staff Member Moderator

    N's Zorua has 30 IV in everything along with Hasty Nature, making it perfect for a Mixed set. Also, the IV means it has HP Fight.

    Though I admit, Return might not be the best idea for that.....but then again, the only other options are U-Turn and Low Sweep.
  14. Angeltripper

    Angeltripper ♥ Ace ♥

    since my Zoroark has higher Sp. atk, I'll stick with HP instead of Low Sweep, plus even if I did have U-turn, zoroark's speed when lowered to level 50 is only 144, due to no EV training (which I will need a ton of bitter items, and patience with join avenue. I wish I had more Salons)
  15. azeem40

    azeem40 Pokemon is fun!

    Since it has Hasty, it is best to use a mixed set, so you can cover a lot of Pokemon.
  16. Angeltripper

    Angeltripper ♥ Ace ♥

    mmhmm. I limited it out to U-turn and Return. But U-turn hits Dark and Psychic for super effective, which is already done by Night Daze and HP Fight
  17. azeem40

    azeem40 Pokemon is fun!

    What I mean is, it will help you against a specially weak or physically weak Pokemon.
  18. Bryan_Synergy

    Bryan_Synergy New Member

    I've put together my first Pokemon team but maybe it needs improvement.....

    Here are the Pokes :-
    1. Zoroark - Makes a good lead,I guess?
    2. Gyarados - My physical sweeper
    3. Volcarona - Has a good movepool for special sweeping
    4. Metagross - The bulky tanker + hardhitting supercomputer
    5. Hydreigon - Another special sweeper aside Volcarona, only that it's a Killer Dragon...(or not....)
    6. Gengar - Abusing Dream Eater gives nightmares to all ^.^

    Can anyone help me list down their recommended moves and EVs? Help is greatly appreciated ^.^
  19. azeem40

    azeem40 Pokemon is fun!

    Make a new thread with movesets.
  20. Angeltripper

    Angeltripper ♥ Ace ♥

    epic facepalm moment has happened. anyways, I now have 2 salons, so I will be able to reduce EVs fast, so I can fix up my pokemon

    EDIT: Lowered Vappy's EVs with the salon, and tomorrow I'll do some more just in case I missed some
    Last edited: Nov 16, 2012

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