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What do you want from the Pokemon Adventures manga?

Discussion in 'Pokémon Manga Discussion' started by Macromind101, Oct 18, 2012.

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  1. Macromind101

    Macromind101 Well-Known Member

    I haven't seen a thread like this yet so I thought I would post this thread. What would you guys like out of the Pokemon Adventures manga? Kusaka is wrapping up the HGSS and B/W chapter and he is about to get started on B2/W2. Some things I would like to see from the manga are:

    In HGSS, I would like for Kusaka to wrap up Sird since she's overdue in my opinion and this chapter is the only place that can wrap her up CONVENIENTLY. I would also like for there to be one last dexholder reunion and I would like for it to be the FINAL one. Some of the older characters are getting too old to still be fun and there is a good excuse for the writers to have a dexholder reunion at the end of Generation IV anyway (Sird) and it would most likely be the last one. If there are more dexholder reunions in Generation V, then it would get too repetitive and the new gen was supposed to be a "fresh new start" anyway. And I want to see Giovanni appear in HGSS since there was an event dedicated to him in the games and truthfully, there's no other place for the "missing Giovanni" plot to be concluded outside of this chapter. I also want to see Spiky-eared Pichu (she would correspond perfectly with Gold's Pichu acting as the Pikachu-colored Pichu).

    In BW, I want to see Zekrom be under the ownership of White for the final battle so the manga wouldn't be too tipped over for the favor of one version over another. I would also like to see Cheren and Bianca just appear one last time at the end, even though they probably will appear in B2W2 anyways since they had roles in the game. I also want the traditions to keep up like the starter-type cycle and the naming cycle.

    In B2W2, I want for Hugh to be named after a game in some way (like I said above, I'm all about traditions). Hugh being a dexholder would be convenient because he has what all rival dexholders had in the past (he is nameable at the start of the game, something all the "trashed" rivals didn't have). It would also make sense for him to have Samurott as a "starter". I would also like for B2W2 to be more than a couple volumes because unlike the previous generations, the second set of this generation is not a third version or a remake. It is an entirely different plot so I would like for all the elements in the games to come to full fruition in the manga. I can see a great manga chapter for B2W2.

    Some last things. I want Wally to have a somewhat critical role in a future chapter (some version of a RSE remake?). I didn't like how the manga jacked his starter (Grovyle) AND his "main" Pokemon (Kirlia) AND his Pokedex. I know Wally didn't have the honors of being a dexholder (it was due to his name I guess) so I guess he couldn't keep the starter but I seriously didn't like how they also took away Kirlia. That's his main Pokemon in the games so it was really unfair for him that he couldn't even keep Kirlia. If Wally does appear in the future, then I would like to see Ruby's Kirlia returned to him. And one last thing: since Porygon-Z hasn't appeared in the manga (or at least I don't think it was) it would make perfect sense for Porygon-Z to appear through Blue's Porygon2. (Most of his Pokemon evolve anyway, most Pokemon in the manga that belong to major characters evolve unless they are better off the way they are, like Red's Pika and Yellow's ChuChu).
     
  2. G-SANtos

    G-SANtos Well-Known Member

    I want Kusaka to IGNORE (partially) the naming tradition for any future BW-like generation. I mean, seriously, this tradition doesn't work anymore, and it's annoying how he diminished Cheren and Bel's roles just because of this.

    I also want that at some point in the manga we have the previous protagonists' children appearing.

    Another thing I want is for Mitsuru and Emerald to meet. The whole thing about the Zukan/Encyclopedia (Dex) and Jukain (Sceptile) could provide interesting developments.

    Well, there's the World Tournament thing in BW2, and since Kusaka likes to use all the gameplay, a reunion is very likely in the BW2 arc.
    I don't think the age thing will be a big deal for Kusaka, he could just create a "League of Pokémon Justice" or turning them into special agents for the government or anything like that. It's not like their age will just make them less enjoyable, have you heard of Batman? Or Iron Man? Or most of the DC/Marvel superheroes?

    This is Generation V, the one Generation that's all about opposites. It's COMPLETELY IMPOSSIBLE to adapt it into a manga without either picking a version or deviating from the original in a destructive way.

    Just stop being OCD (I don't even know what means) with patterns. The naming tradition only started with Ruby and Sapphire, before that the characters were named after the first name option that appeared in each game. Crystal was the first one that had the game's name, as it was the first game with an English title, but it was also an option for the character's name. As of R/S, two things happened: The name options for the character stopped including the English translation of the title (which would be pointless, as the titles were already in English), and the games started to have their titles being in English.

    The names used for all characters before Ruby and Sapphire were name options in the games, and were English translations of the titles (except for Yellow, as the game was named Pocket Monsters Pikachu in Japan), and R/S started using real names for the characters. But because Pocket Monsters Crystal Version was the first game with an English title in Japan, and the name option coincided with the title, Kusaka decided to use the game titles for the characters' names. I suppose this wouldn't have happened if Crystal Version was named Suishō.

    Basically, Kusaka broke the pattern, and replaced it with a new one, and it's IMPOSSIBLE to keep this second pattern here in Generation V, where we have only two game titles, and the naming will probably be done with if all the following generations decide to do sequel over third versions, and I'm sure they will do this as, from a marketing standpoint, sequels are better than third versions. With the latter option, one could buy just the third version, while in the former one you wouldn't have a feeling of "Why am I buying the same game again?" and would have to buy BOTH games to understand the story.

    That's is basically why Generation V decided to do sequels and is a pretty good reason to drop the third version pattern. If they go for sequels over third versions, Kusaka will be forced to drop the game name requirement for main characters. Not that it would prevent him to use game names for player characters, but he would need to give up the "you need a game name to be a Zukan/Encyclopedia owner" thing (and possibly also the "you need to be nameable" requirement) as it would be impossible for one of the three, and would probably stop the Mitsuru curse. Heck, this is specially annoying for Cheren and Bel as they did more and had more on then as characters than Mitsuru in the games, and the fact that their names where "Black" and "White" in Bulgarian and Slavic respectively. The naming tradition just DESPERATELY NEEDS to be at least partially undone.
     
  3. Flintoff Cypress

    Flintoff Cypress Premium Ice Cream

    Not going to happen. HGSS has one more volume left and that would be a total disaster to try to squeeze her in at this point. The next logical point would be B2W2's adaptation.

    Can't see that happening, either. However, it would be awesome for Wally to catch a male Ralts/Kirlia to have a counterpart to Ruru.

    THIS. OH FOR THE LOVE OF ARCEUS THIS.

    On a secondary note, what I would want from PokeSpe would be to stop the "multiple magazine" thing and publish longer chapters monthly in a single magazine. Although, I can't really imagine PokeSpe coming any other way.

    I always wondered what would happen in that scenario, so I am actually exploring this in a currently-ongoing fanfic. I found the scenario to be quite a challenge to explore in-depth.

    Wally, who returned the Dex and was weary of using both it and Grovyle, has no reason to see Emerald as being any different from Ruby or the other Dexholders.
     
  4. Beat!

    Beat! The Chords of Steel

    For HG-SS i was expecting it to finish on the 43th volume..but that went down the drain. I guess i still want Sird to make a cameo since she's been appearing on every chapter since the fourth.

    For BW2 i really hope is not as short as the PT or HG-SS chapters.
     
  5. Evilchibi_pichu

    Evilchibi_pichu Entertain me minions

    Hell no. That is the worst, the freaking worst trope to do in any story that doesn't focus on romance and has no need for such characters to appear. If Kusaka is going to stop letting the old characters appear (which I disagree with anyways), then he should make sure nothing from them appears ever again unless it's in reference. Them having children would ruin the characters and ruin the manga.

    And dude, relax with the name tradition. Kusaka would of probably done the same thing even if he didn't have the tradition since the naming has barely anything to do with it. It's how Kusaka sees certain characters. If you hate how Cheren and Belle were treated then you should be hating the "the heroes need to be dexholders" tradition and Kusaka a lot more since those are the problems. Kusaka could of named the characters whatever he wanted, he didn't have to keep the game names if he really didn't want to. It's not the tradition, it's the writer because he could of give Cheren and Belle more time if he cared to, which he didn't. How Kusaka handles characters tends to be a problem anyways. I'm not too surprised when he ignored Cheren and Belle considering he loves showing off the dexholders all the time.


    Anyways, I have ask, Macromind101. Does this question only apply to the future arcs?
     
    Last edited: Oct 20, 2012
  6. iml908

    iml908 Well-Known Member

    I kind of want to see a new character that uses an Eevee, kind of like how Red used Vee, but this one would be that characters starter pokemon.
     
  7. 1dbad

    1dbad ~The Blizzard Prince

    Sadly I don't think Kusaka and Yamamoto have any control over that. It's not really that bad anymore though, since we only have one magazine that comes every month with an occasional second one right? I do wish they would do it the way you suggested though, because the problem with the current situation is it slows Special's down, making it likely for us to have even more rushing later on.
     
  8. Beat!

    Beat! The Chords of Steel

    What about finding out what happened to Agatha at the end of the Yellow chapter? I don't know if Kusaka just forgot about her because it wasn't a loose end he wanted to tie or he's waiting to bring her back as a Checkov plot point.

    Sird's master plan (if she has any) is also long overdue. At first it was exciting to guess what the hell was she thinking and what would she do next, but now it's like.. is she ever going to do something else than appear here and there?

    Deoxys' fate is also something i would like to see. Did he find Entity one? Is Sird trying to catch him again?

    It is exciting to wonder about loose ends that Kusaka creates, but after a while it becomes frustrating. Hopefully he can finish them all without getting rushed or something.
     
  9. Macromind101

    Macromind101 Well-Known Member

    That should have happened in the second chapter with Blue owning an Eevee, and it evolves into Umbreon in the GSC chapter. But, I'm not sure if Eevee should count as a starter, since the player can never get it.
     
  10. PrismaticPrincessAnna

    PrismaticPrincessAnna I'll do my Lilliest

    Hating Alison Ashley.

    Bought the book from a secondhand shop like weeks ago. i really love the movie o I'm reading the book, nya~
     
  11. Evilchibi_pichu

    Evilchibi_pichu Entertain me minions

    I would actually love to see her back again. It really does feel like he forgot about her due to her being pretty ~evil~ and all, but with Wataru and Kanna getting cameos I think she deserves something. Her and Prof. Ookido talking about old times or something would be nice.
     
  12. dirkac

    dirkac I smash your Boxes.

    What I want from the Manga? Have Wally get a real Pokédex (his own to keep) in a Yellow-esque fashion. I'm not saying he should be main (though I want it) I'm just saying that he should get one in that fashion.

    Really, it's my personal wish, and fell free to do disagree or whatever.
     
  13. Macromind101

    Macromind101 Well-Known Member

    Hmmm, give Wally a Pokedex? Truthfully, if we were still in the RSE times right now then I would love to see Wally join the Pokedex gang and represent the Emerald chapter but at this point I think it's too late for that. They already threw in Emerald and made him Sceptile's trainer. Don't get me wrong, I would much prefer it if Emerald did not exist at all and Wally filled in the role. I mean, Rayquaza is the mascot of Emerald. Wally was the one who awakened it while Emerald never even met it. I think the only contact Emerald has with Rayquaza is the piece of the Jade Orb he has on his forehead. If Wally was the main character of the Emerald arc and he continued the naming tradition by being under the secret alias "Emerald" or whatever then that would be perfectly fine with me, even better than how things are now. The only fulfilling thing that Emerald had in the continuity of the manga at that point was not making it seem like Oak was talking to himself at the end of the GSC chapter. But at this point, Wally is not the only one getting the unfair treatment and the Emerald thing worked fine so I guess things are fine the way they are now. The only thing I want out of Wally currently is give him back his f*cking main Pokemon. As if jacking his Pokedex, his potential character role and his starter wasn't enough. Kusaka stole the only thing he had left which was Kirlia. Seriously, Ruby can make do without Kirlia, I mean find a new Pokemon to drug PokeBlocks with! As long as Wally makes a couple other appearances in the manga (when convenient) and he is given back Kirlia then I will be perfectly fine with the way he turned out.
     
  14. Macromind101

    Macromind101 Well-Known Member

    Oh and one more thing pertaining to this topic. First, I want to see something come out of the ending scenes in the Emerald chapter. Notice how Emerald's Pokemon are with other Pokemon belonging to main characters of the opposite genders. Also notice how they are all the evolved forms of Sinnoh baby Pokemon. I believe that Kusaka wanted to make something out of that. So I wish that the time constraint wouldn't be an issue here and bring that scene into fruition because it would be really cool if it happened. And plus, they would be b*dass m*ther****ers like Togebo if they are hatched by Gold. They can potentially be used to defeat the final villain of the chapter (if there will be more volumes for HGSS, guess we will find out tomorrow).
     
  15. Flintoff Cypress

    Flintoff Cypress Premium Ice Cream

    I'm pretty sure 42 is supposed to end HGSS. Never mind.

    If they had a reason to revisit Hoenn/RS (like if there were remakes or even sequels), I would almost bet with 100% certainty that Wally would appear (and not in a flashback). After all, they did have Eusine appear in the HGSS chapter.

    Wally not ending up with a Ralts/Kirlia is just one of many things that Kusaka does to make his work differ from the games that he's adapting. Ruru just... fits with Ruby and his personality. I can't say the same for Wally. As said before, it would be cool to have him catch a Ralts/Kirlia of his own as a counterpart to Ruru.
     
    Last edited: Oct 26, 2012
  16. Beat!

    Beat! The Chords of Steel

    Well, i was right to be expecting that! Now what about that Sird appearance? And Agatha?
     
  17. Macromind101

    Macromind101 Well-Known Member

    Okay, the ending of volume 42 today made around 80% of my wishes for this volume come true. Thanks Kusaka!!!
     
  18. 4de_92

    4de_92 Well-Known Member

    the return of Agatha( We don´t know what happen to her).
    Sird like final boss o I don´t know really. But I want a return of her a really interesting villain.
    Return of Wally in a remake RSE (I wish remake of RSE game too)

    The pokedexholders like adult or young adults in the pkm would tournment (without childrens)
     
  19. Weedy Spyze

    Weedy Spyze Well-Known Member

    I'll just list what I'd like to see done in future chapters, I guess...

    1. Dialga to kick Pryce's sorry *** in their battle, if they have one.
    2. Dialga to still kick Pryce's sorry *** even if they don't have one.
    3. Certain characters to be retired after HGSS. Like Giovanni, so over him in all parts of the franchise in general at this point, and yet for some reason he's still around.
    4. Nate and Rosa have their own counterparts who are the heroes of BW2 along with Hugh. Well just Nate really, Rosa can not appear at all for all I care.
    5. Someone to make a time machine/use Celebi or Dialga to go back to the past and rewrite history so Wally is the hero of the Emerald saga.
    6. Red shows up again and does something awesome.
    7. Blue, Green, Yellow, Silver, Crystal, and Emerald go away forever because their stories are finished and they're not interesting enough to appear again.
    8. ???
    9. Profit!
     
  20. iml908

    iml908 Well-Known Member

    The major thing I want is mostly an explanation. At the end of the Emerald arc, everyone returned their Pokedexes for the Pokedex Support Mechanism. Was this ever explained? And an even bigger question, did the original 10 dex holders ever recieve their pokedexed back? If so, would that make them no longer holders? I haven't read past the Emerald arc, so if anyone knows if this is answered, can they tell me?
     
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