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What existed first - Pokemon or Humans?

Endolise

TengenToppaBoogaloo
From Bulbapedia again:
"Kyogre is formed by the pressure in the deep sea trenches, Groudon is formed deep inside the Earth, likely from hardened magma and earth, and Rayquaza is formed by the minerals of the ozone layer. Rayquaza proceeds to fly around in the ozone layer, occasionally coming to rest at Sky Pillar."

Yeah, but I've tried looking for the source of those statements and haven't been able to find anything thus far. It's not mentioned in any of their respective Pokédex entries, and I don't recall any in-game myth making such a detailed mention of their origins (or any mention at all, for that matter).
 

Diz~

Combat Specialist
Human came first. Pokemon wouldn't had ever existed without the human overlord.
 

SilverChiko

Protect The Smiles!
Both!, why do I say this? well its simple Pokémon might've came first but not all Pokémon for example Claydol and Golurk they were created after humans came into existence
 

Codeepfly

MyCaruba
There's is a possibility that humans evolved from pokemon in the pokemon universe. Info supporting this is found in the canalave city library where books telltales that pokemon and humans were one. To the point of even marriage and relationships.
 

Nyoah

The Dark Azure
i saw a video on youtube explaining some of the myths about human evolving from pokemons and how pokemons and humans can get married and other crazy things
not sure if i can share the video here though...can i?
 

DjangoCribbs

Well-Known Member
i saw a video on youtube explaining some of the myths about human evolving from pokemons and how pokemons and humans can get married and other crazy things
not sure if i can share the video here though...can i?

I'd rather you didn't. That sounds like some seriously concentrated stoopid, right there.
 

DjangoCribbs

Well-Known Member
Of course it's not funny. Five seconds of that dude talking at his camera and I knew full well exactly how NOT funny that was going to be. That... That was painful and I didn't watch anywhere close to the whole thing.
 

Venia Silente

[](int x){return x;}
What we know from the origin of the Pokémon world / universe comes only from myth (nifty but not reliable) or Pokédex entries (written by 10-year old children who go around cutting Raticate whiskers, so there's that...); we don't have "official" in-universe word from any of the involved Legendaries at all. Thus, we don't really have a way to determine which one came before the other, if any.

It is perfectly possible that Arceus created only the Pokémon world and its creatures, and the myth overblows it (after all the "godly creature" was felled by merely throwing a space pebble at it, though the anime being the anime that can be justified as... an asspull), but with the caveat that humans come from Somewhere Else(TM); I don't recall any entry or myth that says the Triforce Legendaries gave spirit to *human beings* specifically and that would be pretty much the only earliest stated chronological relationship between humans and Legendaries in myth canon.
 
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Kal Mage

Member
It's really interesting to figure out all of the legendary pokemon's purposes and how they were created and the roles. I solely believe pokemon came first, as someone stated, "fossils". It's odd of how we learned FIRST, was Mew, creator of all. Then 3 generations later, Arceus. I felt completely mind-blasted when I started connecting of all of these.

Mew - Creator of all (correct me I'm wrong, it's what I solely remember without accurate info) 3 legendary birds, didnt have much a purpose but be know for their types (except for Moltres, who had a purpose for its fire to light the pokemon league). Ho-Oh, rainbow bird that's keeps the peace but related to rainbows, Lugia, a legendary pokemon that lives among the whirlpool islands. 3 dogs, didnt have much to them either besides Suicine ability to calm down pokemon or settle nature down with its howl. Entei was featured in a film. Also celebi was a pokemon for time traveling (I find it cool but not much of a purpose)

Groudon - of earth, (volcanos, lava, magma and etc) Kyogre - of water, (bodies of water and the depths of the ocean, etc) Rayquaza - of the sky and "ozone" layers as someone had stated. Those regi pokemon didn't have much purpose unless its was Regigas, a protector or guardian of a certain town, or guardian for safety when stopping the major avalanche in the movie.. Jirachi was a wish making pokemon. While Deoxys is an "Alien" pokemon. Dialga - of time (I believe) and Palkia (space), Giratina - underworld/otherworld, Arceus - another creator or partners of creating everything ith mew somehow. (Enlighten me please) then the 3 pokemon that were the senses, mind, knowledge, willpower? I'm not entirely sure.

So far, history of legendary pokemon purposes are coming to an understand, if any can understand me. Then the story for Zekrom and Reshiram, both were split parts of Kyurem. As Kyurem is a vessel or a empty-being pokemon, who once had Reshiram and Zekrom together as one being but I don't know the purpose of that. The 3 swords of justice, fighting and other types of pokemon, were guardians to keep the peace between humans and pokemon. And all that so far, I cannot tell how to be perfectly clear with pokemon.

(I apologize for my horrible grammar and sentence structure, if anyone cares)
 

Endolise

TengenToppaBoogaloo
Mew - Creator of all (correct me I'm wrong, it's what I solely remember without accurate info)

The correction here would be that Mew was never stated to have created anything. Scientists in the Pokémon world simply believe that all other species of Pokémon evolved from it; that it is a genetic ancestor to the Pokémon we know today. Arceus is the one that is believed to be a creator (although contrary to what many assume, it is only said to have had a hand in the creation of the universe itself and in that of the Spacetime and Lake trios, not every Pokémon).
 

Kal Mage

Member
The correction here would be that Mew was never stated to have created anything. Scientists in the Pokémon world simply believe that all other species of Pokémon evolved from it; that it is a genetic ancestor to the Pokémon we know today. Arceus is the one that is believed to be a creator (although contrary to what many assume, it is only said to have had a hand in the creation of the universe itself and in that of the Spacetime and Lake trios, not every Pokémon).

Ah I see, but it's wierd how they don't combine or collaborate the legends that were truly important into a semi-big movie to reveal a little historical time jumps. Like you know, year one, year 100, year 1000, and so on. But thank you for correcting me. I hope someday there's a worthy document out there that explain the whole thing when we're in our 60's.
 

whowantshoney

Melancholic Trainer
Maybe Earth ( or the planet where they inhibited ) where really for humans. Don't forget animals also exist in pokemon world. then Arceus came and created pokemon because he knew Humans can guide/care them and also have the capability to unleash their full potentials. anyway, just my theory :D
 

Zoruagible

Lover of underrated characters
Pokemon, Arceus came first.
 

ysmr97

Well-Known Member
Sinnoh myths suggest that we started out as Pokemon, and we were a 'mutated evolution.'
 

shadorai

wandering trainer
well, my lord arceus was the first being in the universe, so pokemon.
 
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