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What Lies Beyond Truth and Ideals! (783)

Discussion in 'Pokémon Black & White - Adventures in Unova' started by Serebii, Apr 18, 2013.

  1. the1stpkmnfan

    the1stpkmnfan Your Big Buff Bro

    The international police is doing great business. First they arrest Team Galactic, now they got to arrest Team Plasma. But unlike Galactic, they got to arrest the LEADER of Plasma as well.

    It was nice to see Team Rocket and Looker team up again. Good times! Meowth was a boss taking down Liepard.

    One last joke by Prof. Juniper Sr.

    This was a very heart warming episode, and concluded fairly well. The dub did a good job of articulating Episode N by not giving our hopes up. Japan hyped us incredibly, but we didn't exactly get everything we saw from the opening. The dub's opening reflected the way it should have been looked at as well.

    I'll miss Team Plasma. Glad they got attention in the anime at least.

    Reshiram was intense, I mean just listen to that piercing voice.

    Colress was hilarious at the end, when getting arrested. He also notes about making a machine for Pokemon to communicate with people. Did that reference that doctor from the Rustboro building in Hoenn about making a device to do that? Interesting. And I hope it actually gets a chance to be developed.

    Anthea and Concordia travel with N now, and they're going to travel out of the fog. How heart warming. I hope we see N again some day. Maybe not, but who knows.

    Now for our loving trio to move onto their next adventures. Can't believe this huge one just ended.

    Well guys, that's the end of it. Say goodbye to Unova. It's been a long ride these past 2 and a half years. Next up, back to where it all started: Kanto. But not till we take a long needed summer vacation. Technically, that's why Ash went to Unova in the first place. So at least he's getting that now.
  2. WaterDragon trainer

    WaterDragon trainer Freak Like Me

    This episode was fantastic. Without a doubt, one of the best Unova episodes I've seen.
  3. another fantastic episode! I'm upset that EpN has ended :*(
  4. (P.O.K.E.M.O.N)

    (P.O.K.E.M.O.N) AshXSerena = Canon

    Thought this was a pretty good episode, still wished colress's VA would voice james :(
  5. Vipsoccermaster

    Vipsoccermaster Well-Known Member

    Great episode to end it off! Enjoyed the episode throughout. I liked how Pikachu was able to fight off the control device, the bond between Pikachu and Ash is far off the charts. Reshiram was also nice to see, nice to see Pikachu helped out Reshiram by using Thunderbolt. Looker and Team Rocket joining forces again was also nice to see. And now, it's going to be sad that this is the last episode we'll see N for a while, but I'm sure Ash will meet all his old friends eventually.

    And Colress at the end... XD! Like that will ever happen! (Maybe it might, but you never know.) Colress, you can dream on about that.
  6. Orton155

    Orton155 Pokemon Enthusiast

    An incredible end to an incredible arc. I am both sad and happy because I don't want a great arc to end but a new one is about to start so that's exciting.

    I'm glad Ash and Pikachu finally managed to overcome the control device and in turn this led to the control breaking on Reshiram and that nasty device finally being destroyed. This was all achievable due to the teamwork used by everyone including team rocket and a special mention for Meowth here because he was awesome.

    My last thought goes to Team Plasma. As far as evil teams go they were pretty good really but I'm glad they were caught by the international police. Then there's Colress which seems to have gone insane through his failure and he is now planning his next venture in Pokémon communication. Maybe he will complete that in his prison cell and use it to communicate with the Growlithe and Herdier that now watch over him.

    Anyway, great episode and next time a new adventure!
  7. Venusaur Master

    Venusaur Master ProtoPrimeX

    The dub handled this episode well. I'm sort of glad they changed the TR motto music for the dub. Using the BW motto theme seemed random in the original. This arc I have enjoyed alot. I'm glad we finally got Team Plasma in this series. It felt like they were handled better than previous region teams. Aldith and Barrett giving the grunts this chain of command that's not in the games I enjoyed alot especially having a leading female character.

    Their goal of controlling Pokemon I didn't mind over the original liberate Pokemon plot due to the writers maybe not handling it well. It was still nice to see light parts of a liberation plot inserted by Ghetsis every now and then. Even the idea of not giving grunts just Golbat or Liepard all the time really felt like an improvement. Even though they only got around 10 eps it still felt like Plasma was an organisation with all their multiple operations across the region (even though some we still don't know about: project F). Ghetsis' dub voice took a little getting used to but by the end I liked it alot. Colress I liked alot throughout the arc. The evil stance of him felt new over the games.

    N was done well. I bit preachy but that's just the way he is. I would love to see him again in the future as a trainer after everything that's happened in this arc. TR I wish had more of a conflict with Plasma then what we got just to counter what we didn't get in TR VS TP.

    Only real bad thing I thought was in the arc was fillers that we didn't really need. Oh and a Charizard with a bad move set.......slash really?

    So if anyone has given up on BW at least watch the N arc its only 12 episodes. It is a improvement over alot of other things in Best Wishes.
  8. MidnightMelody

    MidnightMelody Hopeful for Gen 8

    Weird thing about this arc was the voices of TR. They sounded so odd. Not bad at all in fact better then usual for some weird reason.
  9. GalladeRocks

    GalladeRocks Son of a Beach

    I cracked up when the Team Plasma members were getting arrested. Colress is sitting there getting excited and rambling about an idea for some new invention, while Ghetsis sits there with this expression like "OH MY GOD, YOU NEVER SHUT UP." It got me giggling :p
  10. Tommy Botham

    Tommy Botham Member

    Worst episode I've seen in a long time.

    Ash: "Team plasma stop right there!"

    Lol yeah right ash.. maybe hit puberty first?

    This episode was so corny and Ash's continuous sound effects just sounded purely homosexual.

    Also, Pikachu beats a Latias, breaks Reshiram free from mind control and Ash STILL can't win a league? Who are they REALLY trying to peddle this crap to?
    Last edited: Jul 21, 2013
  11. MastersOfMonsters

    MastersOfMonsters ~Yaoi FanBoy~

    Not sure in what way Ash sounds "homosexual", and if so, why that's apparantly is a bad thing.

    Also, you do know Pikachu gets "reset" from time to time. And beating a legendary and breaking free from Control isn't really the same thing.

    Anyways, prefer the Japanese episodes, but Always Watch the English ones, too. I do Think this trilogy is much too rushed in the end. It wasn't terrible, but it wasn't as Epic as it maybe should have been. Though, Meowth WAS kinda epic~
  12. Eli James as James...that's an interesting casting choice. It would be fun to see it happen one day!

    Yeah, I feel you on Carter Cathcart's version, though. He's not bad, but to me he always sounds like Eric Stuart's James with sinus issues, or a cold, IMO.


    I've noticed whenever there are serious episodes, they tend to sound good. Well, Jessie and James, anyway. Meowth's voice REALLY sucks now, IMO!

    Comedic episodes, though...yeah, all three sound pretty bad.
    Last edited: Jul 26, 2013
  13. Marbi Z

    Marbi Z Cin-Der-Race!

    You all were probably wondering on Saturday after the episode... Why isn't Marbi Z screaming and raging over Gardevoir (one of his favorite Pokemon) falling victim to Plasma's mind control machine? Well for 2 big reasons! 1: I didn't actually watch the episode until now (I record em) 2: The current server and my smartphone don't get along to well. On topic I can now put this dreadful Pikachu revolts mania arc behind me. Go figure they would top it all off with a mind controlled Gardevoir just to add insult to injury to my long intolerance to ANY form of mind control. Having said all that I will NEVER watch this episode or any episodes in this arc ever again nor will I watch any subsequent arc's that feature mind control as a primary plot device I just can't stand it and I BARELY made it through this one. So from now on if any future arc in the series features mind control as a primary plot device I WILL SIT THAT ARC OUT GAME FREAK! Now... Lets just put all this behind us and move on shall we? :D
  14. AuraChannelerChris

    AuraChannelerChris "Hello again."

    Did anybody expect you at all?

    On a grand scale, I'll avoid BW as a whole. They dissed our Pokémon representation of a country for us Americans.
  15. Marbi Z

    Marbi Z Cin-Der-Race!

    Hmm... Now that I think about it... When was the last time I obsessed about Lopunny and Gardevoir? Not since I became a brony! Now it's all about Rainbow Dash and Fluttershy :p
  16. R?IDDl3R

    R?IDDl3R ace trainer

    i totally have to agree with u man they rused the ending.. i expected a more better good bye from a great character like N.. i was thinking like him riding off into the sunset with reshiram
  17. Colton S

    Colton S Beware Bewear

    I loved this episode. I am really sad to see the N saga come to a close, though.

    Cedric was funny as always. Next stop: Kanto!
  18. Zoruagible

    Zoruagible Lover of underrated characters

    It was a nice conclusion to Team Plasma. I like that they didn't have Colress turn good like in the games. Hopefully we never see them again.
  19. TheMewster

    TheMewster Pokémon Connoisseur

    I felt like this episode was a bit rushed...but it was a good end to an okay arc.
    Wish we saw more of N in the future though...I highly doubt it :(
  20. NPT

    NPT Just a member

    What Lies Beyond Truth and Ideals!

    A Good conclusion to a Great arc! Looker, N and Ash were the stars of this episode. Good thing Pikachu finally managed to destroy the mind-control machine despite all the odds. The only thing I didn't like was TR acting like heroes in this episode, that was kinda OOC. But still, they had their serious personality, which was a good thing.

    I'm glad that Team Plasma got arrested by Looker, Colress's reaction after getting arrested was funny. N leaving at the end was sad, I really liked him in this arc. Oh well, I'm gonna look forward to the next dub episode, where Decorola adventures begins.

    Music Kept: (3 and a half)
    • Movie 14 BGM (Reshiram version) - Title Card 2011
    • Team Rocket's Sinnoh Motto
    • Ash's BW Theme
    • Movie 12 BGM - Farewell, Children of the Future (They kept the first half of this particular piece, and replaced the second half with generic dub music)

    Darn, such a low amount BGM kept even for the final episode of the Team Plasma arc. Pathetic. And also, when Team Rocket makes their entrance, their Team Rocket's Unova Motto Music was replaced by Team Rocket's Sinnoh Motto Music, resulting the Sinnoh Motto Music playing twice in the same episode. *shrugs*
    Last edited: Jun 8, 2016

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