Without a Life Orb, it takes 85.23% - 100.57% (6.25% chance to OHKO), but who runs a Mienshao without Life Orb nowadays?
What else? I don't know, maybe consider Swampert as opposed to Gligar? What do you guys think about my suggestions along with what's already been suggested?Ok guys, I play ou and I'm good at it, then I got kinda bored and looked into uu
I realized that some of my favorite pokes to use in ou are indeed in uu.
This team is kinda bulky with a good sweeper,
Here is the team:
Hitmontop (M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 Atk / 4 HP
Jolly Nature
- Mach Punch
- Sucker Punch
- Rapid Spin
- Close Combat
Her I try to make the most out of priority moves.
The set is pretty straight forward but I need help on it.
What item should I use?
Either abuse priority and fight offensively with Hitmontop or be defensive and abuse Intimidate, Drain Punch, and invest in bulk.
Scrafty @ Lum Berry
Trait: Moxie
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 Atk / 4 SDef
Jolly Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Crunch
- Drain Punch
- Ice Punch
Scrafty scratfy scrafty. I can't believe he isn't ou. First of all of course I use dd.
This gets my speed and attack up. Now the opponent usually tries to get status on him.
That's where the lum berry comes in handy.
Getting rid of status and continuing to sweep is such a troll move to do.
Ice punch for dragons, drain punch for hp, and crunch for coverage.
Debatable choice. It's a good choice but you're team needs a bit of variety. Maybe Feraligatr? The croc can take a hit, send one back, and has some decent Speed to boot.
Chandelure @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Flash Fire
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 Spd / 4 SDef
Timid Nature
- Trick
- Flame Thrower
- Shadow Ball
- Energy Ball
This guy is a revenge/late game sweeper.
I have a porygon2 and a scrafty on this team so I need the ability to get rid of ever present fighting types.
So this is a coverage set. Plus his power is amazing.
Love your interior decorating but might I suggest using Overheat as your Fire type move. If you want to be a bit more creative, a Substitue Pain Split strategy works quite well due to its sheer power and Shadow Ball and Fire Blast cover one another very well.
Xatu @ Leftovers
Trait: Magic Bounce
EVs: 248 HP / 204 Def / 56 Spd
Bold Nature
- Roost
- Toxic
- U-turn
- Psychic
Used for poisoning and magic bounce.
This team is kinda stally so I need more pokemon with toxic.
also that magic bounce can really save me.
No comment here bar the fact that you might want to consider Night Shade if Psychic isn't packing enough of a punch. Thunder Wave should also be considered since the rest of your team could do quite well with the foe's Speed drop.
Gligar @ Eviolite
Trait: Immunity
EVs: 252 Def / 252 HP / 4 Atk
Impish Nature
- Roost
- Stealth Rock
- Toxic
- Protect
This is my rock setter/stall guy.
His defense is amazing and can toxic, and u-turn out, or set up rocks and u-turn.
He is here to take hits, that my other ones can't. (yeah I know, taunt bait)
Too much defence is never a good thing. Though Stealth Rock is always a nice move to have if not a necessity.
Chansey (F) @ Eviolite
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 Def / 4 Hp / 252 SDef
Bold Nature
- Toxic
- Softboiled
- Aromatherapy
- Seismic Toss
This pokemon is to take special hit where my other pokemon can't.
And then toxic the other pokemon.
No comment here bar the fact that Chansey does learn Stealth Rock. Over Toxic possibly?
Unboosted means no life orb...
Also the idea is if there's a darm or a hera, you keep chandy/gligar around, you can't expect your team to have multiple counters to threats like those. Also hera isn't a threat at all to this team with gligar, a ghost type and blissey, hera's not gonna do much
lol? it outspeeds everything he has, and i believe 2hkoes gligar through rocks with stone edge. ohkoes chandy with stone edge. ohkoes chansey with close combat(or very close). I'd say it is a huge threat. All it needs to sweep completely is a good pivot.
I dont see how you beat amoongbro cores at all. they troll you all day long, and you dont really do anything back, other than chandelure. They'd make a great pivot for hera to switch out and in.
as stated, houndoom craps all over you as well, and hitmontop needs to actually switch in, at which it's hit with a STAB LO-boosted fire blast.
Machamp pokes major holes in your team. especially dynamicpunch variants, which are every machamp. if it happens to have a sash, well, you just lost 2-3 pokemon.
scarfgon can also play mindgames with you. similar to scarfhera.
and kingdra. if it is on a rain team, and t-spikes are down, you are 6-0d. regardless, its hitting you very hard. everything but chansey.
ok, so i was wrong about that. but still, late game, hera is a huuuuge threat.You don't know what you're talking about at all. Stone edge from scarfed hera does 14-17%, not even a 2 hit if he got 2 crits after rocks.
read, "pivot." as in, nothing really touches it besides chandelure, and cant come in freely all the time due to spore.What's amoongus gonna do to this team other than teporarily put something to sleep only to be woken up with aroma from chansey
*chanseyhoundoom can't kill blissey, crunch does about 25% max
he has a ghost type for dynamic punch...
once again porygon z can do nothing to chansey
ever heard of roserade? yeah, it just came out, brand new. good deal too. o, i also hear its a popular toxic spikes user too. o, you know, that reminds me of another good t-spikes user. qwilfish. yeah, its also got intimidate and haze to stop fighting type sweeps, specifically scrafty. you should check into those.toxic spikes on a rain team? This is uu and special kingdra also can't touch chansey
None of the pokes you listed are even remotely threatening. Please at least know what you're talking about before criticizing his team
How about you back up your trash advice by making a team that is as perfect as you think your advice is, hm? Otherwise, I'd rather have advice from someone who actually makes valid points.-Your definition of late game seems to be when everything's at 25% health and rocks are up. This is not late game nor is this a likely situation
-you say pivot like it means something and amoongus can't do ANYTHING to this team and its NOT free to go for a spore with xatu around
-hera still isn't even remotely a threat just cuz you said huuuuuge
-I didn't say teammates nor did you so idk what to say here as you just seem to be just clinging on to the hope that houndoom can do something to this team
-your machamp comment lacks proper english so I can't shoot it down, unfortunately
-scarf gon means flygon or porygon z, you need to specify. Still both get walled by chansey
-I've never nor will likely ever see roserade on a rain team and as for qwil you forgot that he has a spinner AND xatu and most rain team qwil's will probably be swift swim life orb attackers anyway (not to mention most run spikes over toxic spikes). His chansey also has aroma so it can get rid of a poison if all else fails, which is extremely unlikely.
-You keep coming up with these really obscure situations and seem to assume trident won't ever be able to predict anything like a dynamic punch which I doubt is the case.
His team is actually pretty well rounded and is likely better than anything you'll make, looking at your bizzare suppositions (you also never even gave a helpful suggestion, just pretended to know what's threatening to his team). Don't invent ways in which his team is lacking solely to feel superior or at the very least think before you make assumptions like that scarfed heracross could do any damage at all to gligar.
-Your definition of late game seems to be when everything's at 25% health and rocks are up. This is not late game nor is this a likely situation
its not an attacker, so idk what youre talking about. its job is to wall you. and stall you out, while still provide support. and you act like trident is supposed to have perfect prediction for the entire match. its honestly not hard to get off a spore, even with xatu.-you say pivot like it means something and amoongus can't do ANYTHING to this team and its NOT free to go for a spore with xatu around
o, so because it cant touch gligar, its not a threat. yet, it 1-2hkoes everything on his team. yup, not a threat in the slightest. and by late game, i mean gligar possibly be koed or damn near. thats what i would do, is get rid of gligar. its called, "strategy"-hera still isn't even remotely a threat just cuz you said huuuuuge
so youre just expecting 1 pokemon to completely 6-0 this team? almost no team does that happen, unless its a really bad team.-I didn't say teammates nor did you so idk what to say here as you just seem to be just clinging on to the hope that houndoom can do something to this team
my bad. 100% accurate stone edge.-your machamp comment lacks proper english so I can't shoot it down, unfortunately
again, teammates.-scarf gon means flygon or porygon z, you need to specify. Still both get walled by chansey
lol, i was just stating that rain kingdra punches major holes in this team. if toxic-spikes happen to be up for one reason or another, then hes ****ed.-I've never nor will likely ever see roserade on a rain team and as for qwil you forgot that he has a spinner AND xatu and most rain team qwil's will probably be swift swim life orb attackers anyway (not to mention most run spikes over toxic spikes). His chansey also has aroma so it can get rid of a poison if all else fails, which is extremely unlikely.
lol? and you keep coming up with bs counterarguments that dont even make sense. you assume everything is going to hunky-dory and at 100% health, and that its 1 pokemon against 6, and that its gonna be perfect prediction all the way.-You keep coming up with these really obscure situations and seem to assume trident won't ever be able to predict anything like a dynamic punch which I doubt is the case.
so were down to flaming. cool.His team is actually pretty well rounded and is likely better than anything you'll make, looking at your bizzare suppositions (you also never even gave a helpful suggestion, just pretended to know what's threatening to his team).
lol, just saying, i never said his team wasnt good.Don't invent ways in which his team is lacking solely to feel superior or at the very least think before you make assumptions
like that scarfed heracross could do any damage at all to gligar.
I'd side with the Russian on this one actually.
Fixed that for you. Also, Machamp's Stone Edge does like 160% to Chandelure.-your machamp comment is completelty correct so I can't shoot it down, unfortunately