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What would you do if... Every pokemon Ash captured was retconned?

Locormus

Can we please get the older, old forum back?
BW001/002 just aired, and the main thing that stood out was that when Team Rocket attacked Ash was that they sent Meowth out, of all things. And then Jessie sent out her new Koromori.

Jessie is shown to have three pokeballs, James as well.

No Wobbuffet in the speech...

So.. Their pokemon are gone.

1. Koromori
2. Seviper
3. Yanmega

How does this leave room for Wobbuffet? It doesn't, so I think it's safe to say that they just left their old pokemon.

This raises the question about Ash's pokemon.. None of them were shown in Pallet Town..

I'll go ahead and say what I think. Ash's old pokemon are all gone, just like Team Rockets pokemon are probably gone. They totally showed Ash as a newb who didn't know how to catch a pokemon.. I bet they wanted to really restart the series, so retconned the entire thing..
 
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Ash-kid

Ash-kid
We don't know yet who's left, Wobbuffet? I dob't think it left without even showing this.
James' pokemon are probably the same he had in Sinnoh, with another new one.
 

Stardust .

Well-Known Member
As if they'd remove all his old pokemon. How do Charizard, Sceptile, Squirtle and Bulbasaur to name a few make him a newb, since there ****ing badass and obliterate **** everyway.
 

Locormus

Can we please get the older, old forum back?
We don't know yet who's left, Wobbuffet? I dob't think it left without even showing this.
James' pokemon are probably the same he had in Sinnoh, with another new one.

It's about the idea. They at the least kicked a long time recurring pokemon of the show, and they did it off screen. Be it Wobbuffet, Seviper or Yanmega. I wouldn't put it past them to just have all of Team Rocket's pokemon gone off screen..

That's what raised the question of Ash's pokemon.. If the writers can release pokemon we've come to know offscreen, and not even properly tell us about it. Then I can see them doing the same for Ash..

Edit@Stardust.: They showed Ash being a newb in BW002. Obviously Charizard, Squirtle and Bulbasaur have nothing to do with that. Him throwing a pokeball at Shikijika without even attacking it first is the noobiest thing Ash has done since Caterpie, and what's more, he was surprised at it as well!
 
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IMPERIAL DRAGON

Enemy Of Reality
Not showing/ mentioning them means nothing. TR's pokemon will either be referenced or explained in future episodes, but getting rid of all of Ash's pokemon would literally be the most pointless step ever. Why take the original character to a new region and not mention the last 13 years didn't happen? It's a new region, Ash's brain and power get reset every time he goes to a new region, and this is being made out to be a far off area, so it makes sense for it to be a fresh start in the sense everyone is back to basics, capturing new pokemon.

I'll apologise if it actually happens, but there's no way your idea would happen man, I think you're jumping the gun a tad premature.
 

Evilo

BEAUTIFUL!
As much as that would make SENSE...a part of me thinks that they wouldn't just get rid of them FOREVER...Ash'll probably still be able to use his reserves in the league...but they won't be the focus for a WHILE so new 5th gen pokemon get the spotlight....

The writers want to reboot the series, but they can't just destroy Ash's past...or at least, i would HOPE not. =/
 

Cazak

When Wings Fly High
If they are just shown to shaft the poke'mon away offscreen, then atleast make an explanation for it, that I left blah blah blah, or a second's worth of flashback won't hurt anyone.
 

Lucario At Service

Calm Trainer
Jessie is shown to have three pokeballs, James as well.

How does this leave room for Wobbuffet? It doesn't, so I think it's safe to say that they just left their old pokemon.

I think those 6 pokeballs they got (3 for Jessie & 3 for James) are from TR headquarters & are all empty. They may even be specialised pokeballs created by the TR scientists.

As for the older pokemons either they are still with them or else they have left them somewhere.
 

V Faction

www.faction.com
Edit@Stardust.: They showed Ash being a newb in BW002. Obviously Charizard, Squirtle and Bulbasaur have nothing to do with that. Him throwing a pokeball at Shikijika without even attacking it first is the noobiest thing Ash has done since Caterpie, and what's more, he was surprised at it as well!
That's not being a noob, that's being overexcited. Here a new Pokemon, there a new Pokemon, everywhere a new Pokemon. It's to be expected. Even Iris was making fun of him for acting like a giddy little child.

Also, all of Ash's Pokemon were Dittos. All of them. Every single one. For all time. xInfinity.
 

dman_dustin

Well-Known Member
There's just one problem.

If everything was retconned why were certain items received in Sinnoh on Ash's desk/night stand//clothes drawer in his room before he left to go to Isshu. Such as the Twinleaf Festival Trophy, the soothe bells, Focus sash, Pokeringer award, and summer school award. And the wooden Teddiursa May gave him before the Wallace Cup.
 

Cazak

When Wings Fly High
There's just one problem.

If everything was retconned why were certain items received in Sinnoh on Ash's desk/night stand//clothes drawer in his room before he left to go to Isshu. Such as the Twinleaf Festival Trophy, the soothe bells, Focus sash, Pokeringer award, and summer school award. And the wooden Teddiursa May gave him before the Wallace Cup.

I feel saved by this post dman dustin. I highly doubt they are going to just remove Ash's poke'mon like that. TR is one thing, but the Oaked poke'mon, no way! They are not gonna disappear like that.
 

Alkaid

Well-Known Member
maybe team rocket got given new pokemon by there boss
 

Locormus

Can we please get the older, old forum back?
Not showing/ mentioning them means nothing. TR's pokemon will either be referenced or explained in future episodes, but getting rid of all of Ash's pokemon would literally be the most pointless step ever. Why take the original character to a new region and not mention the last 13 years didn't happen? It's a new region, Ash's brain and power get reset every time he goes to a new region, and this is being made out to be a far off area, so it makes sense for it to be a fresh start in the sense everyone is back to basics, capturing new pokemon.

I'll apologise if it actually happens, but there's no way your idea would happen man, I think you're jumping the gun a tad premature.

I know, but I'm more or less just talking about the idea of it being so. It probably is a premature thought.. but if it happened, now that we have reasons to believe it happened to Team Rocket, how would you feel about it if it did?

That's not being a noob, that's being overexcited. Here a new Pokemon, there a new Pokemon, everywhere a new Pokemon. It's to be expected. Even Iris was making fun of him for acting like a giddy little child.

Also, all of Ash's Pokemon were Dittos. All of them. Every single one. For all time. xInfinity.

I understand that, but the situation was awkwardly similar to when Ash and Misty were around when Ash caught Caterpie and Pidgeotto.

That said, I dislike Mamepato.. It seems braindead..

What do you mean that all of Ashs pokemon were Ditto's? New pokemon? In that case Gligar sure wasn't ;)

There's just one problem.

If everything was retconned why were certain items received in Sinnoh on Ash's desk/night stand//clothes drawer in his room before he left to go to Isshu. Such as the Twinleaf Festival Trophy, the soothe bells, Focus sash, Pokeringer award, and summer school award. And the wooden Teddiursa May gave him before the Wallace Cup.

I noticed those too.. I guess I didn't really take those into account. Also, Oak said something about Kanto, Johto, Hoenn and Sinnoh while they were in the plane.. So they probably mentioned Ash's travels or something along the lines that Isshu is so far off you can only get to it by boat or plane..

Still, Jessie only having three Pokeballs and now having a total count of four pokemon is a weird thought.
 

dman_dustin

Well-Known Member
That said, I dislike Mamepato.. It seems braindead..
You mean like the other hundred birds Ash has had. Although Mamepato showed some personality at the end of BW002 when it put its wing to its heart shaped chest causing everyone to laugh.

Still, Jessie only having three Pokeballs and now having a total count of four pokemon is a weird thought.
I kind of dislike it but mostly don't care if only because Team Rocket already appears to have done a lot of off screen stuff. Like changing clothes, etc.

And I think it makes sense that Team Rocket would "drop" their Pre Best Wishes Pokemon off somewhere, I do not think they were released by the way.

How does it make sense? Well not only does this region take place in a far away place, Team Rocket are trying to be "cool" and "awesome" and I think their old Pokemon just don't do that so the new Pokemon will show that off. And also it may have been by Giovanni's order, he might have said that Team Rocket are supposed to start off brand new.

Like I said I kind of dislike it and kind of hope Team Rocket's Pokemon are mentioned but if they don't I'm not sure I would care too much. And by all means disagree with my previous sentence entirely if you like Team Rocket's Pokemon.
 

Pepsi_Plunge

Dojyaaa~~aan
I understand that, but the situation was awkwardly similar to when Ash and Misty were around when Ash caught Caterpie and Pidgeotto.

The situation is alike because its a diferent country, Ash probably saw Infernapes, Cyndaquils,etc before because its his country, even if it wasnt in his region in the country he could have seen them on TV etc.

The Isshu ones though, yes he might have seen some before but most of them he didnt for sure and its normal he is super hyper about it, plus thats how is character is its one of his traits being super motivated when he goes to a new region.
 

playerking

Sick of dealing with idiots.
I think seviper was put somewhere or something Wobbufet wouldn't of left also when did ash get the focus sash again?
 

Locormus

Can we please get the older, old forum back?
You mean like the other hundred birds Ash has had. Although Mamepato showed some personality at the end of BW002 when it put its wing to its heart shaped chest causing everyone to laugh.

I kind of dislike it but mostly don't care if only because Team Rocket already appears to have done a lot of off screen stuff. Like changing clothes, etc.

And I think it makes sense that Team Rocket would "drop" their Pre Best Wishes Pokemon off somewhere, I do not think they were released by the way.

How does it make sense? Well not only does this region take place in a far away place, Team Rocket are trying to be "cool" and "awesome" and I think their old Pokemon just don't do that so the new Pokemon will show that off. And also it may have been by Giovanni's order, he might have said that Team Rocket are supposed to start off brand new.

Like I said I kind of dislike it and kind of hope Team Rocket's Pokemon are mentioned but if they don't I'm not sure I would care too much. And by all means disagree with my previous sentence entirely if you like Team Rocket's Pokemon.

Lol, I don't feel the need to disagree, as I can understand where you're coming from I guess :p What I don't get is if they were ordered by Giovanni to leave their pokemon behind, they would've at least made some statement about it, or took a quick look at them and say good bye. Jessie doesn't even have a place to drop her pokemon off like James does..

They were talking a lot to Giovanni, and Giovanni did the smirk thing twice.. so yeah, there needs to be someone who's going to translate those two scenes in order for us to know what's really up.

I didn't get that heart shaped wings stuff.. Probably just missed it..
 

Caseydia

Ace Trainer
Doesn't Team Rocket have storage boxes to put their Pokemon in too like other Pokemon carriers? Ash's Pokemon aren't gone. Their just in storage. Besides, we just saw most of his Pokemon get thrown around in the league and I'm sure he will do the same in Isshu too if he wants to get anywhere.
 

IMPERIAL DRAGON

Enemy Of Reality
I know, but I'm more or less just talking about the idea of it being so. It probably is a premature thought.. but if it happened, now that we have reasons to believe it happened to Team Rocket, how would you feel about it if it did?

Purely depends on who it happened to. If Team Rocket's pokemon had been left somewhere, I could deal with that since they're overdue for some new critters but I'd be pretty annoyed if something had happened to Ash's pokemon aside from being at Oaks. But the notion of any past pokemon just having their existence completely erased is something I'd have trouble accepting, although I honestly doubt that's the case so his pokemon being at Oak's is fine and to be expected really.
 

gliscor&yanmega

Well-Known Member
BW001/002 just aired, and the main thing that stood out was that when Team Rocket attacked Ash was that they sent Meowth out, of all things. And then Jessie sent out her new Koromori.

Jessie is shown to have three pokeballs, James as well.

No Wobbuffet in the speech...

So.. Their pokemon are gone.

1. Koromori
2. Seviper
3. Yanmega

How does this leave room for Wobbuffet? It doesn't, so I think it's safe to say that they just left their old pokemon.

This raises the question about Ash's pokemon.. None of them were shown in Pallet Town..

I'll go ahead and say what I think. Ash's old pokemon are all gone, just like Team Rockets pokemon are probably gone. They totally showed Ash as a newb who didn't know how to catch a pokemon.. I bet they wanted to really restart the series, so retconned the entire thing..


Can someone post a clear picture of this because the second episode I watched had bad quality.

They wont have it so all of Ash's old Pokemon never appeared before. They will be shown at the end, like always.
 
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