Which came first, Super Sonic or Super Sayain?

[BluekiKatana]

It's very evident that Sonic is influenced by Dragon Ball. Mainly; the 7 chaos emeralds that everyone is always looking to collect. However, did they influence each other? My friend is saying that the "golden" Super form of Sonic was debuted in the early 90s (92 or before). Was the SSJ already introduced when this happened, or did Dragonball choose to take something from Sonic's book to get even?

 

[Pika Hikari KT]

I believe it was DBZ first--the Dragonball series debuted in the...late 1980s I believe, maybe a bit earlier.

 

[Cipher]

The creator of Sonic the Hedgehog has admitted to being a Dragonball fan, and that Super Sonic was is indeed a parody of a Super Saiyan. The seven Chaos Emeralds are also his tribute to the dragonballs.

 

[Chris]

Super Saiyan came before Super Sonic. Super Sonic is pretty much based off Super Saiyan. HOWEVER, Super Saiyan isn't actually "original," seeing as Toriyama used another old folk-tale in terms of a "Gold Warrior" similar to the Super Saiyan form..only a few differences here and there. >_>

 

[That Scary Clefairy]

Super Saiyan came before Super Sonic. Super Sonic is pretty much based off Super Saiyan. HOWEVER, Super Saiyan isn't actually "original," seeing as Toriyama used another old folk-tale in terms of a "Gold Warrior" similar to the Super Saiyan form..only a few differences here and there. >_>

you know any link to this "Gold Warrior" series? I'like to read about it and who created it.

 

[Luke Groundwalker]

^ I don't think that's a series, TSC. XD It is a folktale, after all.

 

[Mangekyo Sharingan]

..hold on you mean to tell me that DBZ with super sayians came out before super sonic from sonic the hedgehog....am i reading the right thread...sonic came out during sega and dbz well i really dont know but i rember there was either a snes or sega game that came out before sonic i think but im not 100% sure so i think super sonic did come before

 

[kaibachaoschampion]

To be exact Sonic The Hedgehog 2 which was the first game with Super Sonic in for the Megsdrive/Genesis was released in 21/11/92 but i'm not sure about Super Saiyan, I'm guessing it was before that though.

 

[Chris]

..hold on you mean to tell me that DBZ with super sayians came out beforesuper sonic from sonic the hedgehog....am i readong the right t out during sega and dbz well i really dont know but i rember there was either a snes or sega game that came out before sonic i think but im not 100% sure so i think sonic did

ur englis r herting mai hed

>_O

Anywho, yes, Super Saiyan did come before Super Sonic. Son Goku's Super Saiyan transformation appeared in the Dragon Ball manga in Japan around 1990/1991. The anime version of the chapter occured in Dragon Ball Z episode 95, which aired on June 12, 1991 in Japan.

Sonic the Hedgehog 2, which featured the debut of Super Sonic, was first released in Japan on November 21, 1992, which was then followed with a US release only a few days later (November 24, 1992).

So there you have it. Super Sonic was created a whole year later.

 

[Mighty]

Interesting. I wouldn't have guessed it, but I never got into DBZ.

 

[Jester]

SSJ came out b4 Super sonic
dragonballz came out b4 sonic X

 

[Chris]

SSJ came out b4 Super sonic
dragonballz came out b4 sonic X

...Wow, you must not be into the Sonic video game series. Super Sonic first appears on the Sega Mega Drive/Genesis game called Sonic the Hedgehog 2. Sonic X is an anime series based off the video game franchise.

 

[Toran Frostbite]

SSJ came out b4 Super sonic
dragonballz came out b4 sonic X

*stares*

Oh dear god. I think I'm gonna be sick.

 

[That Scary Clefairy]

^ I don't think that's a series, TSC. XD It is a folktale, after all.

lol, well at least tell me which folktale it origin from. I want to learn about it.

 

[Kez]

I have always wondered about this, well, not until someone mentioned it a couple of years ago to me. But, it is interesting to see how a manga series like Dragonball can influence a game like Sonic. I mean, they are so different.

 

[Luke Groundwalker]

TSC: I'm wondering just as much as you. Of course, the name of the folktale might help. Do you know, EE? :<

Kez: I heard that the Sonic Team wanted to make a reference to both the East and West (East ebing Japan, and West being Europe and America). For the east, they made Super Sonic (reference to Super Saiyan from Dragon Ball); for the west, they made the Death Egg (reference to the Death Star from Star Wars). I'm not sure about the Chaos Emeralds being a reference to the seven dragonballs because there was Chaos Emeralds in the first game. Of course, there was only six original Chaos Emeralds in Sonic 1. :\ Though the Emeralds have changed in number and color over the years, in each game.

 

[Wandering Rhythmical Phoenix]

TSC: I'm wondering just as much as you. Of course, the name of the folktale might help. Do you know, EE? :<

I Googled and Wikipediad it and didnt find anything. Maybe its realy small and got its title changed afew times. Is there another Title for it?

 

[Chris]

I have always wondered about this, well, not until someone mentioned it a couple of years ago to me. But, it is interesting to see how a manga series like Dragonball can influence a game like Sonic. I mean, they are so different.

Believe it or not, Dragon Ball had a BIG influence on a lot of things in both the East and the West.

 

[Duckyjr1337]

Supa sonic

Sonic 2 wuz releesd 1992 that doesn't mean super sonic woz made that year

 

[Mankanshoku Mako]

Sonic 2 wuz releesd 1992 that doesn't mean super sonic woz made that year

Way to bump a 5 year old thread.