If you want to see actual bashing, look at Goh, this Serena "bashing" (which is not actual Bashing as people most of the time is at least civilized) is nothing in comparison, but of course threads gets locked and comments deleted when talking about Serena even in threads related to her, but this is not the case with Goh.Why did they bash Serena?
I thought She was a nice girl while not doing anything to them?
Yeah and Iris didn’t get at least half amount of that protection while people were attacking her constantly about how she bullied Ash.If you want to see actual bashing, look at Goh, this Serena "bashing" (which is not actual Bashing as people most of the time is at least civilized) is nothing in comparison, but of course threads gets locked and comments deleted when talking about Serena even in threads related to her, but this is not the case with Goh.
I have to ask, did you pat yourself on the back praising your superior intellect when you came up with that status and profile pic?They'll also cry and moan when people point this out and mods delete and lock their crap when it really goes off the rails, but it really isn't a new thing. It's been done multiple times before by multiple different people. There is a user here who did the same shebang a lot more couple years ago and when people called him out on it, he had to embarrassingly create a new account to defend himself.
But of course, when most of these people have joined in 2019 or later, what can you really expect? It's why I laugh when people say this place somehow got toxic with Journeys or something. It's always been toxic. Those old " Controversial Opinion Threads " are a great testament to that. The difference is always the narrative of where the toxicity is aimed.
The " Serena hate corner " comment is especially apt.
I didn't " look it up " dude. That would imply that I put some type of effort in it. It's literally just in your profile. I don't even have to go to a separate page. And if you honestly consider a simple meme mocking the absolute hilarity of your little circlejerk you got here as some sort of ego driven thing I conjured up to prove my " superior intellect, " that shows more about you than it does about me. It really isn't that complicated.I have to ask, did you pat yourself on the back praising your superior intellect when you came up with that status and profile pic?
I appreciate you looking up when some of us joined but hope you do know people have lurked here for a long time before having an account and in the fandom in general for a longer time and therefore can talk about stuff like this as well
Oh what a shocker, a thread called 'controversial opinion thread' was controversial and toxic. Journeys in these forums has been more toxic, doesn't mean there weren't any toxic instances in the past here. There were, but the atmosphere here overall and in multiple threads and attitude is much more toxic then back then, esp in BW era which is a series quite detested by the fandom
As for the mods thing, you frankly have no idea about some of our specific experiences as well which is why we were discussing it in that profile post you decided to come and preach to us about. And if you can't see the bias and controversy surrounding her in threads and how they end up compared to characters like Goh and think she's bashed regularly whenever someone doesn't think she's the holy bible of how good characters are written, doesn't mean it is nonexistent.
Calm your ego
Oh please, don't try to pretend I'm claiming your ego problems from this one post. It's a pattern of you from this forums I've seen multiple times, esp with how you've addressed other users and in arguments/debates. You have an air of superiority around you that you like to broadcast, and it isn't from one specific postI didn't " look it up " dude. That would imply that I put some type of effort in it. It's literally just in your profile. And if you honestly consider a simple meme mocking the absolute hilarity of your little circlejerk you got here as some sort of ego driven thing I conjured up to prove my " superior intellect, " that shows more about you than it does about me. It really isn't that complicated.
Going to doubt the authenticity of your claim that you or anyone else " lurked " since it's basically an unprovable statement and it's something I frankly don't take seriously at all based on many factors, but that's neither here or there.
Again, if you and other people want to latch on to the little fantasy, be my guest. I've asked for evidence for your idiotic claims before and you or anyone else didn't provide them. Haven't separate mods deleted the kind of crap you guys regularly spew now?
And this is exactly why people complain, because nobody deletes the Goh's crap people regularly spew. Is is the current character and because of that people can bash him so badly without any real consequence? "Fair", but people are much more incivilized talking about him than any other character, but also as OP commented, other topics like Iris, and in my experience SM didn't have this level of protection in the past and neither in the present, which shows the priorities aboutwhat is moderated and it isn't.Haven't separate mods deleted the kind of crap you guys regularly spew now?
Even if his opinion was 'wrong' from a canon perspective (which not all of his was) deleting everything related to that argument is freaking censorship. It's plain banter about a character, even if they are misinterpretation about a character it's part of the discourse, especially coz the user in question was very civil about it. In fact they specifically went out of their way to point out that their aim isn't to bash Serena as a character but stating their own problems.Oh and if you want evidence, go to EP941, wait it was censored even when it is literally an episode about Serena's conclusion as a character and is totally on-topic. Shocking.
This is a good note to end this convo on, from my side atleast
Ignoring the Sigmund Freud type pyschoanalysis which I frankly similarly don't care about, let me accept for a second that you did lurk since the BW days or whatever.Oh please, don't try to pretend I'm claiming your ego problems from this one post. It's a pattern of you from this forums I've seen multiple times, esp with how you've addressed other users and in arguments/debates. You have an air of superiority around you that you like to broadcast, and it isn't from one specific post
I don't give a crap if you're doubting the authenticity of a claim that makes zero sense to lie about. I've been a regular user of serebii since BW days and have lurked around in the forums a lot, maybe not as much as users who had an account back then but enough to have a general idea about the atmosphere. And I'm not just blaming it on anipoke fans but in general how internet culture has evolved over the years
Also, we have literally shown examples as to why this bias exists but if you want to ignore them and want all of us to be wrong and you right, go ahead. I don't care enough about you to bother proving anything more to you especially after seeing your attitude, especially not sharing my own personal experiences that have left a bitter taste in my mouth. As for the separate mod thing, it was entirely a different scenario coz it led to flaming and I've talked to the said mod since and I have no problems with them. But continue your delusions by all means
I really like how the DP anime composed the themes from the games. Things like the "Wild Battle" theme, Route 206 and 210 were awesome.This is a good note to end this convo on, from my side atleast
Sinnoh music is the best
Yeah, clearly people thinking about torturing writers because they didn't like an episode about a kids show (Absol episode) is completely fine but people expressing their feelings about Serena as a character in the episode that acts as a conclusion to her character is completely wrongwhere are the individual threads on Goh that are just thinly veiled attempts to bash his character?
Gen 4 in general*, even the spin off games like Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 2 and Pokémon Ranger 2 have some of the best musics in the franchise.This is a good note to end this convo on, from my side atleast
Sinnoh music is the best
Welp, I guess this will be my last post lol, posted at the same time as my last message.Ignoring the Sigmund Freud type pyschoanalysis which I frankly similarly don't care about, let me accept for a second that you did lurk since the BW days or whatever.
So then surely you saw the multiple threads on Serena that would range to 10+ pages on Serebii? Surely you saw the three 200+ pages or so " Controversial Opinions/Unpopular threads that were full of Serena bashing? Tell me, where are the individual threads on Goh that are just thinly veiled attempts to bash his character?
Have you ever considered that " flaming " is a direct result of Serena discussion and why those threads are regularly locked and posts are deleted? But yes, the " bias. "
And so the crusade will continue! Rage against the machine and the systemic oppression! My fanatical delusions and all that jazz. I'd hope it would be a bit boring though, but what do I know. Much of this is absurdly and hilariously wrong except the " you're not worth it all to even to discuss this topic. "Welp, I guess this will be my last post lol, posted at the same time as my last message.
Yes I did see some of those pages. A thread with the title of controversial opinions being controversial and toxic isn't a surprising thing. Nor is that a few threads being discussing Serena (10+ pages means it's bad? Lmao, every character has their own discussion) Again, never said there wasn't ANY toxicity, but it was never on this level where it's prevalent throughout the forums. Oh please don't even try to argue that Goh isn't bashed every time in every single thread and all of that is valid and true, and he has had those threads to which are veiled attempts for people to insult him, heck they do it in every single freaking thread
And nope, that incident isn't what always happens. Heck that incident was me jumping the gun based on past incidents which derailed the thread and led to flaming, something I accept was wrong and didn't mind it being removed or the warnings. Not every thread is like that, but if you want to pretend it, go ahead. You're not worth it at all to even discuss on this topic, continue your delusions. Have a good day
Please take this the wrong way because I mean this with full offense but do not make light of systemic oppression because your fave is getting criticism. Your fave is worth making fun of a bunch of people getting hurt? Depressing.And so the crusade will continue! Rage against the machine and the systemic oppression! My fanatical delusions and all that jazz. I'd hope it would be a bit boring though, but what do I know. Much of this is absurdly and hilariously wrong except the " you're not worth it all to even to discuss this topic. "
Have fun I guess?
Please kindly f*ck off. I don't need someone who is presumably a white person(and frankly it doesn't matter) to decide for me, a minority, that I'm somehow making light of systemic oppression because of an intentional misreading of my comment to suit a blatant smear. Absurdly disgusting. Pray tell, who are you?Please take this the wrong way because I mean this with full offense but do not make light of systemic oppression because your fave is getting criticism. Your fave is worth making fun of a bunch of people getting hurt? Depressing.
Very well. I'm a POC so I guess I get a say In this atleast? Your comment was incredibly dumb and a stupid attempt to make any point you were trying to make and just bringing up systematic oppression is peak clown behaviour. What was the purpose of your comment? No offense but it is literally one of the most idiotic responses I've read in this forum and that's coming from someone who read a response that Kukui is a stripper. Jesus ChristPlease kindly f*ck off. I don't need someone who is presumably a white person(and frankly it doesn't matter) to decide for me, a minority, that I'm somehow making light of systemic oppression because of an intentional misreading of my comment to suit a blatant smear. Absurdly disgusting. Pray tell, who are you?