BobbbidyBob
Well-Known Member
I think Scorbunny had a great start
Rowlett at least had a character. Might not have been everyone's favorite (not my cup of tea) but at least it had presence.It’s obvious: It’s Grookey. Like essentially every other grass starter except Sceptile and Bulbasaur. Bayleef was forced to share screentime with Bulba, Torterra was screwed over in the end, Snivy got nothing, entire Chespin line was fked over, Rowlet did nothing over half of the time and was just screen filler with it always constantly and annoyingly sleeping.
And Grookey is just screen filler and a nuisance.
It's much more simple and (kind of) addressed in the show.When he was introduced as a Scorbunny, he was helping a group of Nickit with no discernible motive. It seemed as though something was compelling him to help innocent Pokemon, so lets put aside the discussion on whether he's interested in battling or dancing for a minute because we are looking at some potentially great character setup here, why not explore why he's helping other Pokemon?
I feel that way with the Scorbunny-Raboot evolution too. They tried to address it but a part of me didn't really "bought" the idea even if I grew to like his Raboot phase.Inteleon was the worst because of how neglected he was as Drizzile. Personally, I think as a Sobble he was done better than Cinderace as a Scorbunny. He evolved at a decent time, but his evolution into Inteleon was just poor. The actual episode was good but it literally went from crybaby to smug spy in less than 20 episodes. It’s like seeing two completely different Pokemon since he had no time as a Drizzile to develop from crybaby to spy. Thats what that evolutionary stage is all about and it was just ignored. Inteleon is looking to appear more now but it feels like Sobble just evolved straight into Inteleon and skipped the Drizzile stage (which is what it expected tbf lol).
No.YO Cinderace fans!
I've been meaning to ask this.
Considering a lot of you guys are upset by Cinderace no longer being by Goh's side all the time...
Do you think that letting Goh have all 3 of the Starters was a mistake?
What? Cinderace is cuter than Eevee, Grookey and Yamper together.Scorbunny's evolution to Raboot was rushed, and while it had that emo phase and a good amount of screentime, once it fully evolved to Cinderace it was simply demoted to the background because it wasn't "cute and marketable" anymore. Very bad for what is supposed to be Goh's equivalent to Pikachu.
Believe or not, you kind of got your wish to an extent.They should really introduce mechanic to be able to devolve your Pokemon back to their Shouldermon stage.
It just seems way more convenient.
Of course Ace knows.Somewhat related to my original topic but what the hell happened to the interaction between Goh's Starters?
Remember when Cinderace was supposed to be an older brother to Sobble?
They haven't interacted since the latter became a Drizzile.
Now they're both fully evolved and have yet to share even a single frame together.
Remember when Cinderace was ecstatic when Sobble evolved?
Does Cinderace even know his brother has become an Inteleon?
You know what hurts me the most about Chespin? What really gets on my nerves.You can go find threads discussing the treatment of starter Pokémon in the past and see that people have always had issue with how they were treated. Ash’s Johto starters, May’s Torchic most of the time, Brock’s Mudkip, Ash’s Snivy, Clemont’s Chespin, & Lana’s Popplio are all starters I remember people criticizing for similar reasons.
I think people are complaining about how Cinderace hasn’t done much of significance after evolution after it had a decent storyline with Go as a Scorbunny & Raboot. This criticism extends to pretty much all of the main Journeys Pokémon
To be fair, a lot of pokémon are treated as plushies in this show. Grookey only stands out because he doesn't use pokémon moves besides the whole healing plants thing.Frankly, all of them. But I chose Sarunori in particular because it's my favorite Gen VIII Starter Pokemon, and I had higher hopes for it. I personally think that Gou's Sarunori being treated as a plushie is vexing, especially since it doesn't even know any attacks. I thought that Messon was irritating as well, but at least it evolved and became more likable. Ironically the opposite happened with Hibanny: I liked it more in its base stage compared to its evolved forms.
More than 10 years has passed and I am still angry for how they shitted on Torterra.WHY dont they want to show Grookey using a move?
Btw final starters have like one personality treat. Being a happy bunny like Cinderance or acting like a spy like Inteleon , being a ninja like Greninja , liking to fight like Charizard, Sceptile playing it cool or liking to sing like Primarina. Mays Blazikens and Satoshis Incineroar personality treat idk and Infernape is an exception I guess. Torterra's is "likes to lose".
Its sad, but basic and middle stages starters have more development than most fully evolved startersYou can argue battle bond Greninja and Blaze Infernape, but that is it.
Some very insane villain arc with Rose going nuts with D-max.I was just thinking.
How will the Galar Starters G-Max forms even be showcased?
Is Goh gonna showcase all 3 of them?
How the hell is that gonna work? This show's about to entire its 3rd year. How can they condense all of that?
I've seen Someone on Twitter say, A lot of people are going to drop this show if Inteleon's G-Max form debuts before Cinderace's but I really don't see how that matters?Some very insane villain arc with Rose going nuts with D-max.
Had get to rush to get an Inteleon on the cast once they saw how the Japan fandom liked it and Goh was the only character with a Sobble within a 5 mile radiusAll of them are a disaster especially inteleon. From the capture to evolving into inteleon just did not make a lick of any sense at all. It’s been in it’s hiding spot after evolving from sobble and just comes out of no where and evolves into inteleon. Most of its time as a sobble was crying and hiding. And because it’s my favorite galar starter makes me more upset. That’s why Ash should have had it instead.
The way they’re handling ash’s Pokémon as well isn’t the greatest either. If this poll was about his Pokémon, I’d be writing a much longer paragraph lol.Had get to rush to get an Inteleon on the cast once they saw how the Japan fandom liked it and Goh was the only character with a Sobble within a 5 mile radius
(The writers really screwed themselves by hardly giving us any rivals from Galar huh?)
Not sure if it would've been any better with Ash seeing how his Pokémon get no screentime either
I've seen Someone on Twitter say, A lot of people are going to drop this show if Inteleon's G-Max form debuts before Cinderace's but I really don't see how that matters?
I'm always baffled by how they went from a near perfect formula when it comes to character interactions and organic screentime/development, that happened just 1 series prior and under the same Executive Director, to whatever JN is doing.Come to think of it, Pokemon development and showcasing in JN isn't very good I guess. SM had a much more natural way of showing the Pokemon being always out there and interacting with each other and the trainers. The difference with JN in that aspect is truly jarring.
Actually, they treated most of Kukui's team weirdly by never having him show them out and about either. The most insulting was his Empoleon, who was stated to help him in...whatever research he does outside of Alola. Hell, even after his defeat, his Incineroar is not allowed to roam inside his own house.I'm always baffled by how they went from a near perfect formula when it comes to character interactions and organic screentime/development, that happened just 1 series prior and under the same Executive Director, to whatever JN is doing.