which old pokémon is most likely to be "re-invented" in the 5th generation?
Please note before replying to the topic:
1. This thread is not for discussing the existance of a 5th gen. Just for the sake of this thread, imagine that there is indeed, plans for one, hypothetically speaking. Any posts stating that there won't be a 5th gen will be ignored.
2. Don't post any of your made up evolutions/prevos, there's already a few threads about that in other parts of the forums. You can state that there can be a new member to that line, but don't post your ideas for them.
Right. I'm not entirely sure if people have noticed or not, but since the advanced games, You are able to fill out a regional dex, that is, a pokédex consisting of pokémon that are found in this particular region. The most prominent members include pokémon that are only found in this region (aka, the newest generation of pokémon.) However, included with the newest batch of pokémon, are pokémon from past generations. Some of them have made an appearence in every game since their first appearence back in Red and Blue. Pikachu, Abra, Zubat and Psyduck are good examples of pokémon that appear in every game.
However, some of these pokémon are pokémon that were somewhat ignored in the generation that they were introduced to us, mostly due to either being not battle worthy, being quite rare or having a better, more common alternative. In DP there are several examples of pokémon that are now much more used because they've been made more available in these games:
1. Roselia: While this little sweety-pie was introduced in Ruby and Sapphire, it never really appeared on anyone's teams, simply because it was a tad too weak to be used competitively, and it didn't evolve. Plus we had the much more robust and common Oddish line if we wanted a Grass/Poison type. In DP though, Roselia was given both a pre-evolution and an evolution, plus there were no oddish in Sinnoh (Not before the E4 anyway.). This means that in Sinnoh, the Roselia family has effectivly replaced the Oddish family, filled in the ecological niche so to speak.
2. Misdreavus: Another Pokémon that received a re-invention. before DP, Misdreavus was rarely ever found. In GSC, it was only available in the very last area of the game (inside Mt.Silver at night). The only thing it had going for it was that it was the only new ghost type introduced in GSC, and it was a pure one as well. Meaning that it was the only alternative if you didn't want to use the much more common/much more useful Gengar. In RSE though, it didn't even make an appearence in Hoenn, but there were other much more useful pure Ghost types (mostly in the forms of Dusclops and Banette.) to choose from.
To add more insult to injury, the only place in the advanced games where there were wild Misdreavus was in the Lost Cave, and only in Leaf Green, the only game where this little cutie-pie got a chance to shine was in Colosseum, where she was one of the earlier pokémon you can capture.
In DP though, they were much more kind to MissyD. Aside from being available somewhat early (before the second badge at least), she also received an evolution. This made training a Misdreavus much more appealing to players.
In an interesting note, they've made Murkrow, who has had a simlair experience of being ignored, the counterpart to Misdreavus.
So considering all this, which new pokémon do you expect to get the same sort of treatment in the next set of games?
Houndour/Houndoom: I'd love to see Houndour/Houndoom play a good role in the next set of games. I'm sure you've noticed, but Game Freak has been giving Fire-types less and less prominence with each new games, DP was pretty bad to fire types. Before the E4, you only had Chimchar (a starter) and Ponyta. That was it, either those two or go without a fire type. Houndour would be a great choice for re-invention, because incase anyone hasn't noticed, Houndour's never really been available until after you've beaten the E4. The only time I remember getting one early in the game was in XD infact.
Farfetch'd: Seriously, this thing's been screaming for some useability for a long time now. I really don't like how a cool pokémon like this ends up being a gag pokémon time and time again...
Delibird: Yes, yes, it makes a nice christmas gimmick, but why does it need such an awful movepool? It could learn some moves naturally. If they did it for Tyrouge (went from just Tackle to Tackle, Fake Out and Helping Hand.) They could do it for Delibird.
Tanglea: It received an evolution that increased it's usability, but it would be nice to see both Tanglea and Tangrowth to appear pre-E4.
Jynx: Controversy aside, it'd be nice if Jynx appeared more often. It doesn't even need an evolution or anything, but it'd be pretty cool (lol) if it did appear pre-E4.
Mawile: Being the only non-legendary pure steel type is quite an honor, now if only it was given more usefulness...
Are there any other ignored pokémon that need showcasing in the next games?
Please note before replying to the topic:
1. This thread is not for discussing the existance of a 5th gen. Just for the sake of this thread, imagine that there is indeed, plans for one, hypothetically speaking. Any posts stating that there won't be a 5th gen will be ignored.
2. Don't post any of your made up evolutions/prevos, there's already a few threads about that in other parts of the forums. You can state that there can be a new member to that line, but don't post your ideas for them.
Right. I'm not entirely sure if people have noticed or not, but since the advanced games, You are able to fill out a regional dex, that is, a pokédex consisting of pokémon that are found in this particular region. The most prominent members include pokémon that are only found in this region (aka, the newest generation of pokémon.) However, included with the newest batch of pokémon, are pokémon from past generations. Some of them have made an appearence in every game since their first appearence back in Red and Blue. Pikachu, Abra, Zubat and Psyduck are good examples of pokémon that appear in every game.
However, some of these pokémon are pokémon that were somewhat ignored in the generation that they were introduced to us, mostly due to either being not battle worthy, being quite rare or having a better, more common alternative. In DP there are several examples of pokémon that are now much more used because they've been made more available in these games:
1. Roselia: While this little sweety-pie was introduced in Ruby and Sapphire, it never really appeared on anyone's teams, simply because it was a tad too weak to be used competitively, and it didn't evolve. Plus we had the much more robust and common Oddish line if we wanted a Grass/Poison type. In DP though, Roselia was given both a pre-evolution and an evolution, plus there were no oddish in Sinnoh (Not before the E4 anyway.). This means that in Sinnoh, the Roselia family has effectivly replaced the Oddish family, filled in the ecological niche so to speak.
2. Misdreavus: Another Pokémon that received a re-invention. before DP, Misdreavus was rarely ever found. In GSC, it was only available in the very last area of the game (inside Mt.Silver at night). The only thing it had going for it was that it was the only new ghost type introduced in GSC, and it was a pure one as well. Meaning that it was the only alternative if you didn't want to use the much more common/much more useful Gengar. In RSE though, it didn't even make an appearence in Hoenn, but there were other much more useful pure Ghost types (mostly in the forms of Dusclops and Banette.) to choose from.
To add more insult to injury, the only place in the advanced games where there were wild Misdreavus was in the Lost Cave, and only in Leaf Green, the only game where this little cutie-pie got a chance to shine was in Colosseum, where she was one of the earlier pokémon you can capture.
In DP though, they were much more kind to MissyD. Aside from being available somewhat early (before the second badge at least), she also received an evolution. This made training a Misdreavus much more appealing to players.
In an interesting note, they've made Murkrow, who has had a simlair experience of being ignored, the counterpart to Misdreavus.
So considering all this, which new pokémon do you expect to get the same sort of treatment in the next set of games?
Houndour/Houndoom: I'd love to see Houndour/Houndoom play a good role in the next set of games. I'm sure you've noticed, but Game Freak has been giving Fire-types less and less prominence with each new games, DP was pretty bad to fire types. Before the E4, you only had Chimchar (a starter) and Ponyta. That was it, either those two or go without a fire type. Houndour would be a great choice for re-invention, because incase anyone hasn't noticed, Houndour's never really been available until after you've beaten the E4. The only time I remember getting one early in the game was in XD infact.
Farfetch'd: Seriously, this thing's been screaming for some useability for a long time now. I really don't like how a cool pokémon like this ends up being a gag pokémon time and time again...
Delibird: Yes, yes, it makes a nice christmas gimmick, but why does it need such an awful movepool? It could learn some moves naturally. If they did it for Tyrouge (went from just Tackle to Tackle, Fake Out and Helping Hand.) They could do it for Delibird.
Tanglea: It received an evolution that increased it's usability, but it would be nice to see both Tanglea and Tangrowth to appear pre-E4.
Jynx: Controversy aside, it'd be nice if Jynx appeared more often. It doesn't even need an evolution or anything, but it'd be pretty cool (lol) if it did appear pre-E4.
Mawile: Being the only non-legendary pure steel type is quite an honor, now if only it was given more usefulness...
Are there any other ignored pokémon that need showcasing in the next games?
