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which old pokémon is most likely to be "re-invented" in the 5th generation?
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shooting star
Leaving SPPF! G'bye!
Super Gullwing
Team Skull Mom
I think Mawile needs an evolution. And Sableye too.
cassius335
Aura Trainer
If Skarmory needs anything, it's a good Anti-Steel move. Skarmory Vs Skarmory takes forever.
R_N
Well-Known Member
Something I think we can all agree on is that most of these pokemon are really only found in oen particualr area of the game, typically in the late game, and by then you probably have better pokes to use. SO most could be re-invented if they were made to catch more earlier on in the game.
Like the afformentioned Spoink being found in a place that is fouind by the time you've had a chance to get an Abra or Ralts.
Anyways, I found another poke that should also be re-invented:Flareon.
First off, it's availabliity was crap in Gen 3, then it gets shafted by fellow eevee-loution, Leafeon. See, before, if you needed a phsycal eevee-loution, you'd go with Flareon, but now, you have the supieror Leafeon to go to. To top things off, it didn't get Flare Drive-something it could have taken advantage of. This can easily be remieded in the 3rd DP game-give it more useable moves(such as Flare Drive for most), and also make it available pre-E4(FYI, I think the Sinnoh dex should be re-worked in this thrid game to add and move around certian pokemon). It happened in Crystal-several pokemon could now learn moves naturally that htey couldn't learn before, so we know they cna do this.
Like the afformentioned Spoink being found in a place that is fouind by the time you've had a chance to get an Abra or Ralts.
Anyways, I found another poke that should also be re-invented:Flareon.
First off, it's availabliity was crap in Gen 3, then it gets shafted by fellow eevee-loution, Leafeon. See, before, if you needed a phsycal eevee-loution, you'd go with Flareon, but now, you have the supieror Leafeon to go to. To top things off, it didn't get Flare Drive-something it could have taken advantage of. This can easily be remieded in the 3rd DP game-give it more useable moves(such as Flare Drive for most), and also make it available pre-E4(FYI, I think the Sinnoh dex should be re-worked in this thrid game to add and move around certian pokemon). It happened in Crystal-several pokemon could now learn moves naturally that htey couldn't learn before, so we know they cna do this.
EternalSmasherSceptile
King of noobz
Treecko, Grovyle, and Sceptile really need a second type. (like Dragon)
They would be pretty original pokemon then.
They would be pretty original pokemon then.
Ophie
Salingerian Phony
Well, I've been predicting a Grass/Dragon in the near future, since that would also take quadruple damage from Ice moves and would promote usage of the Grass type a lot more.
One change that needs to happen is to give Poison another type it's super-effective against. It's a remnant of the 1st-generation days when you were suposed to wipe the floor with the Rocket Grunts; the only 1st-generation Pokémon Poison-types can present deal super-effective damage on is Tangela.
One change that needs to happen is to give Poison another type it's super-effective against. It's a remnant of the 1st-generation days when you were suposed to wipe the floor with the Rocket Grunts; the only 1st-generation Pokémon Poison-types can present deal super-effective damage on is Tangela.
I don't about Ditto, but it should have some better things about it. Like maybe an ability that allows him to automatically go first and transform into the enemy. Or it could like get a attack it learns at lvl 100, that can take be used in double battles where it can transform into a super pokemon armor that increases one pokemons stats to the max.
I'd like a bit more love for Mareep's line, they're all so cute. ^-^ They haven't been seen pre-E4 since GSC and I'd love to see a bit more of them.
The idea of Smeargle having to Sketch a certain move to evolve is a clever one
And Pokémon that I'd like to gain evos are: Farfetch'd, Chimecho, and maybe even Noctowl.
The idea of Smeargle having to Sketch a certain move to evolve is a clever one
And Pokémon that I'd like to gain evos are: Farfetch'd, Chimecho, and maybe even Noctowl.
Huntank as a Forretress Evo, imo. D:
Scizor needs an evo; it's only BL, and would make an awesome OU.
Deliberd's Movepool and stats are horrible, which is sad. Imo, it needs some leet Chuck Norris-ish Penguin thing that can explode stuff better now.
Absol would be good with an evo. Absaint, anyone?
Rotomu has been overpopular, but the thing isn't all that strong. D:
Imo, Ratomos would make a good evo for it :3
Dodrio could use an evo, as well as Tentacruel.
Meh, just my opinions. Oh, and Pichu needs to be OU.
Scizor needs an evo; it's only BL, and would make an awesome OU.
Deliberd's Movepool and stats are horrible, which is sad. Imo, it needs some leet Chuck Norris-ish Penguin thing that can explode stuff better now.
Absol would be good with an evo. Absaint, anyone?
Rotomu has been overpopular, but the thing isn't all that strong. D:
Imo, Ratomos would make a good evo for it :3
Dodrio could use an evo, as well as Tentacruel.
Meh, just my opinions. Oh, and Pichu needs to be OU.
I'd have to say my favorite new pre-E4 evolution is Honchkrow. I think that thing is amazing, when you think about it, Dark/Flying is a very good typing (both of dark's weaknesses are made neutral leaving it with only your basic flying weaknesses to rock and electric). post-E4 is a tough call, I'd say either Mamoswine, Yanmega, or Magnezone. I'd say Magmortar but i think its a bit overhyped.
the thread starter made some good points. I think Mawile especially has tremendous potential for an evolution, perhaps even a dual evolution (one keeping its pure Steel type... and another that is dual Steel/Dark because Mawile is a deciever... the Dark type fits it)... Houndoom is also one of my favorite pokemon but i think it is fine as it is, its design pretty much ensures that if it gets any more "demonic" GF will get sued or something... i can't really imagine an evolution for it. its kinda like a good movie... sometimes you shouldn't make a sequel.
as for ideas... Mawile, definately... Pinsir could use an evo, perhaps a Bug/Dark or Bug/Fighting combo. A Rock, Steel, or Dragon Eeveelution is in order. I think an alternate Vulpix/Growlithe evo would be cool, kinda like what they did with Poliwhirl to Poliwrath or Politoed. Vulpix could have a fire/ghost evo and Growlithe could have a pure Fire or Fire/Dark evo.
Sandslash needs a Ground/Dark or Ground/Poison evo desperately.
A third Nido would be awesome. perhaps a Poison/Dragon!
from Johto... Ariados... definately.... its a spider that can spit sludge/shadow balls and use psychic... it deserves an evo and its a crime to keep it as underpowered as it is.
Qwilfish should become a hydra... i don't know how but they should do it. if GF could make a remora into an octopus, they can make Qwilfish into a Hyrda. maybe change its secondary type to Fire???
Magcargo. No type change... just give it an upgrade and some seriously better stats. it should become a big lava monster or something.
from hoenn... Surskit needs an alternate evo. the loss of the Bug/Water typing in Masquerain is a crime, if Surskit got a Bug/Water upgrade... it could put its awesome typing to use (Bug/Water elminates bug's fire weakness and water's grass weakness.
A Torkoal evo is in order. perhaps another addition to the Fire/Steel camp?
Absol is pretty awesome as it is, but it could still have an evolution...
Huntail needs to have a Water/Dark evo, and Gorebyss needs to have a Water/Psychic evo.
not much is lacking in Sinnoh considering that out of the 106 new pokemon, 53 (thats half) are starters, fossils, new evos, or legends. if there is one that needs an evo, its Rotom, because i love the thing, its typing+its ability are awesome it just needs better stats.
the thread starter made some good points. I think Mawile especially has tremendous potential for an evolution, perhaps even a dual evolution (one keeping its pure Steel type... and another that is dual Steel/Dark because Mawile is a deciever... the Dark type fits it)... Houndoom is also one of my favorite pokemon but i think it is fine as it is, its design pretty much ensures that if it gets any more "demonic" GF will get sued or something... i can't really imagine an evolution for it. its kinda like a good movie... sometimes you shouldn't make a sequel.
as for ideas... Mawile, definately... Pinsir could use an evo, perhaps a Bug/Dark or Bug/Fighting combo. A Rock, Steel, or Dragon Eeveelution is in order. I think an alternate Vulpix/Growlithe evo would be cool, kinda like what they did with Poliwhirl to Poliwrath or Politoed. Vulpix could have a fire/ghost evo and Growlithe could have a pure Fire or Fire/Dark evo.
Sandslash needs a Ground/Dark or Ground/Poison evo desperately.
A third Nido would be awesome.
perhaps a Poison/Dragon! from Johto... Ariados... definately.... its a spider that can spit sludge/shadow balls and use psychic... it deserves an evo and its a crime to keep it as underpowered as it is.
Qwilfish should become a hydra... i don't know how but they should do it. if GF could make a remora into an octopus, they can make Qwilfish into a Hyrda. maybe change its secondary type to Fire???
Magcargo. No type change... just give it an upgrade and some seriously better stats. it should become a big lava monster or something.
from hoenn... Surskit needs an alternate evo. the loss of the Bug/Water typing in Masquerain is a crime, if Surskit got a Bug/Water upgrade... it could put its awesome typing to use (Bug/Water elminates bug's fire weakness and water's grass weakness.
A Torkoal evo is in order. perhaps another addition to the Fire/Steel camp?
Absol is pretty awesome as it is, but it could still have an evolution...
Huntail needs to have a Water/Dark evo, and Gorebyss needs to have a Water/Psychic evo.
not much is lacking in Sinnoh considering that out of the 106 new pokemon, 53 (thats half) are starters, fossils, new evos, or legends. if there is one that needs an evo, its Rotom, because i love the thing, its typing+its ability are awesome it just needs better stats.
I'd have to say my favorite new pre-E4 evolution is Honchkrow. I think that thing is amazing, when you think about it, Dark/Flying is a very good typing (both of dark's weaknesses are made neutral leaving it with only your basic flying weaknesses to rock and electric). post-E4 is a tough call, I'd say either Mamoswine, Yanmega, or Magnezone. I'd say Magmortar but i think its a bit overhyped.
the thread starter made some good points. I think Mawile especially has tremendous potential for an evolution, perhaps even a dual evolution (one keeping its pure Steel type... and another that is dual Steel/Dark because Mawile is a deciever... the Dark type fits it)... Houndoom is also one of my favorite pokemon but i think it is fine as it is, its design pretty much ensures that if it gets any more "demonic" GF will get sued or something... i can't really imagine an evolution for it. its kinda like a good movie... sometimes you shouldn't make a sequel.
as for ideas... Mawile, definately... Pinsir could use an evo, perhaps a Bug/Dark or Bug/Fighting combo. A Rock, Steel, or Dragon Eeveelution is in order. I think an alternate Vulpix/Growlithe evo would be cool, kinda like what they did with Poliwhirl to Poliwrath or Politoed. Vulpix could have a fire/ghost evo and Growlithe could have a pure Fire or Fire/Dark evo.
Sandslash needs a Ground/Dark or Ground/Poison evo desperately.
A third Nido would be awesome. perhaps a Poison/Dragon!
from Johto... Ariados... definately.... its a spider that can spit sludge/shadow balls and use psychic... it deserves an evo and its a crime to keep it as underpowered as it is.
Qwilfish should become a hydra... i don't know how but they should do it. if GF could make a remora into an octopus, they can make Qwilfish into a Hyrda. maybe change its secondary type to Fire???
Magcargo. No type change... just give it an upgrade and some seriously better stats. it should become a big lava monster or something.
from hoenn... Surskit needs an alternate evo. the loss of the Bug/Water typing in Masquerain is a crime, if Surskit got a Bug/Water upgrade... it could put its awesome typing to use (Bug/Water elminates bug's fire weakness and water's grass weakness.
A Torkoal evo is in order. perhaps another addition to the Fire/Steel camp?
Absol is pretty awesome as it is, but it could still have an evolution...
Huntail needs to have a Water/Dark evo, and Gorebyss needs to have a Water/Psychic evo.
not much is lacking in Sinnoh considering that out of the 106 new pokemon, 53 (thats half) are starters, fossils, new evos, or legends. if there is one that needs an evo, its Rotom, because i love the thing, its typing+its ability are awesome it just needs better stats.
the thread starter made some good points. I think Mawile especially has tremendous potential for an evolution, perhaps even a dual evolution (one keeping its pure Steel type... and another that is dual Steel/Dark because Mawile is a deciever... the Dark type fits it)... Houndoom is also one of my favorite pokemon but i think it is fine as it is, its design pretty much ensures that if it gets any more "demonic" GF will get sued or something... i can't really imagine an evolution for it. its kinda like a good movie... sometimes you shouldn't make a sequel.
as for ideas... Mawile, definately... Pinsir could use an evo, perhaps a Bug/Dark or Bug/Fighting combo. A Rock, Steel, or Dragon Eeveelution is in order. I think an alternate Vulpix/Growlithe evo would be cool, kinda like what they did with Poliwhirl to Poliwrath or Politoed. Vulpix could have a fire/ghost evo and Growlithe could have a pure Fire or Fire/Dark evo.
Sandslash needs a Ground/Dark or Ground/Poison evo desperately.
A third Nido would be awesome.
perhaps a Poison/Dragon! from Johto... Ariados... definately.... its a spider that can spit sludge/shadow balls and use psychic... it deserves an evo and its a crime to keep it as underpowered as it is.
Qwilfish should become a hydra... i don't know how but they should do it. if GF could make a remora into an octopus, they can make Qwilfish into a Hyrda. maybe change its secondary type to Fire???
Magcargo. No type change... just give it an upgrade and some seriously better stats. it should become a big lava monster or something.
from hoenn... Surskit needs an alternate evo. the loss of the Bug/Water typing in Masquerain is a crime, if Surskit got a Bug/Water upgrade... it could put its awesome typing to use (Bug/Water elminates bug's fire weakness and water's grass weakness.
A Torkoal evo is in order. perhaps another addition to the Fire/Steel camp?
Absol is pretty awesome as it is, but it could still have an evolution...
Huntail needs to have a Water/Dark evo, and Gorebyss needs to have a Water/Psychic evo.
not much is lacking in Sinnoh considering that out of the 106 new pokemon, 53 (thats half) are starters, fossils, new evos, or legends. if there is one that needs an evo, its Rotom, because i love the thing, its typing+its ability are awesome it just needs better stats.
blueparukia
The Sexy Nerd
Dunsparce, Jynx, Tangela/growth and Lickylicky
I love them.
I used to have a dunsparce with water moves on my Japanese Leaf green - bred it with a Wailord lol.
And does anyone feel like I do - especialy in the 3rd gen, how you prefer the other regions Pokemon over your own.
Like in R/S/E, whenever you got unavailable 1st/2nd gen Pokemon, it just felt so cool, and the same thin when you traded a commeon Wailmer to FR/LG.
Or am I just crazy?
I love them.
I used to have a dunsparce with water moves on my Japanese Leaf green - bred it with a Wailord lol.
And does anyone feel like I do - especialy in the 3rd gen, how you prefer the other regions Pokemon over your own.
Like in R/S/E, whenever you got unavailable 1st/2nd gen Pokemon, it just felt so cool, and the same thin when you traded a commeon Wailmer to FR/LG.
Or am I just crazy?
speaking of farfetch'd I caught one yesterday in a swarm and i totally agree its such a cool pokemon and what makes it even better was that it was holding a stick! but i coulnt imagine what an evolution would look like? i think it wont happen it would just look strange
Darkdragonmaster
<<<Isn't It Cute!!!
I reckon 2nd gen was the best before D/P, but I swear most the pokemon were just fillers!!
Miltank and Taurus need a pre-evo for the sake of randomness
Kangaskhan needs serious help. me and my bro tink he is da best but is so forgotten its sad.
Also farfetch'd, qwilfish, Kabutops (Any fossil), and most f
Miltank and Taurus need a pre-evo for the sake of randomness
Kangaskhan needs serious help. me and my bro tink he is da best but is so forgotten its sad.
Also farfetch'd, qwilfish, Kabutops (Any fossil), and most f
