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Which recurring/past character would you like to battle/meet Ash in Kalos

Discussion in 'Pokémon Animé Discussion' started by OfCorsola, Apr 30, 2014.

  1. Navin

    Navin MALDREAD

    Yes, it was bad writing, and an ignominious end to Ash's Kanto campaign. But at least it had a point in what Charizard did, and it served some purpose, making Charizard's redemption in Johto all the more rewarding as well as teaching Ash a key lesson. There was nothing positive in Ash's loss to Cameron.

    EDIT: Whether it was intentional or not, Ritchie being an Ash clone, and for Ash to lose to him in the way it happened, made a point that what caused Ash to lose at I.P. was more or less...himself.
    Last edited: Dec 16, 2014
  2. phanpycross

    phanpycross God-king

    I guess, but on the other hand, it took some insane plot-gymnastics to make Ash lose against Ritchie.

    At least with Cameron it could be almost expected, and the pokemon he fought there were actually powerful, instead of a freaking butterfree and charmander.
  3. Dragalge

    Dragalge Constance Rookidee

    This. Just because it was the first doesn't excuse it from being horrible writing. It's like RBY, they may be the first Pokemon games but even at its time they were still bad due to being glitchy with unbalanced mechanics.
    His nicknames didn't help either.


    While not really a rematch, I want to see Ash battle Virgil. That person was nothing but an Eevee marketing tool so a proper battle would be good to see imo.
  4. Navin

    Navin MALDREAD

    Again, I don't know if the writers really meant this, but:

    Yes, Ash should have defeated Ritchie. Charizard literally needed two attacks to win. I always felt that was the whole point. Ritchie was an Ash clone who reflected that he (and Ash) were raw, talented trainers, but still rookies who were not that impressive and still had ways to go. What caused Ash to lose at the league was basically himself, "physically" as Ritchie and "metaphorically" himself himself.

    It made me appreciate his, and Charizard's turnaround, at Johto League that much more.

    And...Cameron having some OU monster team was plain-out BS.
    Last edited: Dec 16, 2014
  5. OfCorsola

    OfCorsola Brock and Misty!

    I would like to see a rematch from him and Paul. Since they also had some great battles, why not? A rematch between him and Gary would be nice, because Ash only got to beat him once or twice as I remember.
  6. Luthor

    Luthor Well-Known Member

    Would also like him to rematch Bianca and/or Barry. I always wanted him to have a full battle with either.
  7. hiimkim

    hiimkim New Member

    Are we just gonna ignore ritchie?
  8. chalkus

    chalkus Well-Known Member

    If Serena ever met Dawn, she would just end up acting even pettier than she did in the episode with Miette. I don't want Dawn mixed up in that nonsense.
  9. I don't see how that would happen :/
  10. chalkus

    chalkus Well-Known Member

    If Dawn was being playful with Ash like how she was in BW when they met at Cynthia's place, you don't think Serena will be upset. Miette barely said five words to Ash and she was ready to explode.
  11. CyberCubed

    CyberCubed Banned

    I always said Serena would be jealous of any past girl she sees Ash with. Serena would definitely be jealous or snooty around Dawn.
  12. They would never have a girl be jealous of a past girl for "shipping reasons". The anime doesn't work that way and is really not that big in romance anyways.
  13. chalkus

    chalkus Well-Known Member

    It wasn't until this season where they made the crush a plotline. Now I can definitely see some sniping happening.
  14. James009224

    James009224 Member

    I would like to see him battle n
  15. Wuster

    Wuster Amour/ADV shipper!

    1. May - She was one of the best travelling companions, and I'd also love to know if Max and Ralts are now a team! (Plus Mega Blaziken?!)
    2. Dawn - Like others have said, her BW appearances didn't really do it for me..
    3. Brock - It'd be nice to see him back for a bit, I'd like to know how the road to Pokemon Doctor is going for him!
    4. Gary - Like Brock, I'd just like to know what he's been up to!
    5. Pidgeot - Ash did promise he'd be back for him..
    6. The whole gang! - I want this season finale to have Clemont, Bonnie and Serena meet ALL of Ash's Pokemon from EVERY region he's been to!
    7. Cynthia, Steven or Lance - Next to Steven, she was one of the best champions! Likewise with Lance!
    8. Riley - Ash needs a Riolu/Lucario...
    9. Butterfree - Am I the only one who wanted to see Ash's Butterfree/May's Beautifly either battle or tag battle?
    Last edited: Dec 19, 2014
  16. Jknombricks

    Jknombricks Just some guy

    The two people I want to see Ash rematch and win are Cameron and Tobias. Ash loses in Unova because of a newly evolved Lucario (shame) but ends up defeating an even more powerful Mega Evolution form of him against Korrina only a season later. And Tobias...I don't even have to say it. But if Ash is capable of defeating legends such as Darkrai and Latios on Tobias's team, then it would be awesome for Ash to beat him. After all, Ash does have to beat the strongest in order to be Pokemon Master. The legendary-wielding Tobias is definitely one of the strongest. Don't know if those battles are likely though.

    Yeah, it's interesting how Ash has never had a full battle with either one. I'd like to see those as well.
  17. fenniken

    fenniken fire master

    May vs Ash FTW Cameron is a.noob trainer Vergil vs Ash a pro battle.what should have happened at the league
  18. DarthVader

    DarthVader Well-Known Member

    I haven't watched most of the recent anime, but I would say Ritchie.

    They never had a real match in the OS.

    What would make it cooler would be if Ash used Charizard and it won the match for him, to bring things full circle since their first battle.

    I'd also say Sabrina except that probably won't happen since I doubt Ash would face any of the earlier gym leaders again.
  19. UnknownMr.Ree

    UnknownMr.Ree Well-Known Member

    it'd be great if the top 16 in every league are gathered in one stadium and fight to determine who's the best trainer.

    same with gym leaders and elite four/champions..

    h,,. it'd be gary or paul
  20. Ace Kenshader

    Ace Kenshader Dreaming sexy

    I would have to say all of the above, but being realistic, I imagine Iris and May will appear in the Kalos series.

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