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Why aren't there any remakes?
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Mello_Charla
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I would really like a G/S/C remake, i like the fact that all the generations can now interact what with the dualslot thing in the ds and the remakes of the kanto (the kanto ones are my fav) games, its a really good idea. but i can't understand why they left the G/S/C out... its like saying that they didn't matter or they wern't as good, but to me the G/S/C are just as good if not better then the Hoen games, and i think it would be great idea not to leave them behind.
(oh and theres no ocean blue because in japan the first pokemon games were red and green not red and blue i think.)
(oh and theres no ocean blue because in japan the first pokemon games were red and green not red and blue i think.)
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Why haven't they remade Ruby and Sapphire for the DS?
Because there's no need to, that's why. FR/LG were remade to obtain all the old Pokemon. Since we can catch them all now, there's no need for a G/S/C remake.
And before anyone calls the whole "XD" card, just remember that Colo and XD weren't produced by Game Freak, they were produced by Genius Sonority; and they don't follow the standard Pokemon RPG formula. -_-
Also, this has been endlessly debated already at http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=162034 .
Mello_Charla
Beginning Trainer
Theres no ruby remake for the ds because it and FR/LG are compatable with D/P with the duel slot yet the johto gen isn't because theres no gba or ds remake yet, plus FL/LG wasn't made for the one perpose of giving the Hoen gen the old pokemon, the games are fun to play so therefore the johto games should be remade like the Kanto ones so all the games can interact with each other. It will seem like somethings missing otherwise
On the contrary, FR/LG were remade because of the obtainable Pokemon. Hoenn only had 200 Pokemon total. That number increased slightly with Colosseum, but FR/LG completed it, making the total obtainable 380. That's no coincidence.Theres no ruby remake for the ds because it and FR/LG are compatable with D/P with the duel slot yet the johto gen isn't because theres no gba or ds remake yet, plus FL/LG wasn't made for the one perpose of giving the Hoen gen the old pokemon, the games are fun to play so therefore the johto games should be remade like the Kanto ones so all the games can interact with each other. It will seem like somethings missing otherwise
And hey, if Pokemon's still around in ten years, let's remake it again! For the new DS2, or whatever sytem's out then. It "won't feel complete otherwise," right?
Because even if they were to remake it some time down the line, it takes time. They've been working on Emerald and then DP since the release of FireRed and LeafGreen.
Besides, they won't remake it for a while. 5th gen, maybe, but I say that there's no chance right now.
MistyLover
Banned
My favorite area is Johto, then Kanto, later Hoenn. Johto to me was amazing!
I dont know why they never made the remakes, but they definitely should!
I dont know why they never made the remakes, but they definitely should!
Trooper Guy
Lost in history...
Anyways... ._.
Personally, i think they should just make a totally new game based in Johto. That way, they could fix any mistakes they made in G/S/C and people can play in a Johto which connects to Shinou/any other future region. Everybody's happy, or most people anyway.
Oh, and GameFreak only remade Red and Green, as they couldn't be bothered to make a new region to catch the Kanto pokemon in. Also, i think they remade it for pokemon's 10th anniversary or something like that.
Also, an Ocean Blue would not be made, as it would serve no beneficial purpose to any generation whatsoever. It would be a total waste of resources, money and time. ._.
There aren't any remakes of G/S/C because there doesn't need to be. It could happen for the DS though, as it might add something useful to the 4th generation, but it would be pointless to make one now.
Personally, i think they should just make a totally new game based in Johto. That way, they could fix any mistakes they made in G/S/C and people can play in a Johto which connects to Shinou/any other future region. Everybody's happy, or most people anyway.
Oh, and GameFreak only remade Red and Green, as they couldn't be bothered to make a new region to catch the Kanto pokemon in. Also, i think they remade it for pokemon's 10th anniversary or something like that.
Also, an Ocean Blue would not be made, as it would serve no beneficial purpose to any generation whatsoever. It would be a total waste of resources, money and time. ._.
Yeah, alright. ._.
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MewIllusion
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Actually, if they wanted to, they could have easily just made all of the pokemon obtainable in Emerald or Colosseum or something. It could have been possible. They just wanted to do it by making a remake, Because it makes moremoney. Plus there are the younger generation and even the older generation of players that either haven't played gold/silver or want to play it in a better remake. Which would make gamefreak more money. And it's not a waste of time for them if they are making a profit.
By the way they made mario games (especially the first one) many many times on different systems. Did they need to? No. But they made a profit. Why wouldn't they do it for gold/silver. Do you think they really care about making games just to be able to catch every pokemon? No. They do want to make it possible to make fans happy which makes them money.
So there.
Mello_Charla
Beginning Trainer
my point exactly, the pokedex thing is a side quest, why would they remake a whole game just so another could get a full dex? each game has a whole different storyline from the next, some people want to use their old pokemon game with the new ones and i think thats a good idea.yea in the end nintendo give them funding because they make alot of money out of it.
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What's the Pokemon motto?
"Gotta catch 'em all."
Why do people complain about unobtainable Pokemon if the game isn't about the Pokedex?
And that's not all that FR/LG added. They stuck in move tutors so that Pokemon could learn R/B/Y TMs. "Well, how will Pokemon learn G/S/C TMs?" Why, in Emerald, of course! They added G/S/C TMs as move tutors in Emerald.
Something else that was added in FR/LG? Three moves that had lain hidden in the programming of Ruby and Sapphire. When the games came out, people were curious about certain attacks that no Pokemon could learn -- Volt Tackle, Frenzy Plant, Blast Burn, and Hydrocannon. (They had also discovered Icicle Spear, but that later turned out to be one of Shellder's level-up moves). The mystery was solved when FR/LG came out and each of the starters could learn an elemental Hyper Beam. People were still curious about the one move that existed, Volt Tackle -- but when Emerald came out, Volt Tackle turned out to be a Pichu move (trivia: Volt Tackle is actually based on "Volteccer," the signature move of Pulseman, one of Game Freak's earlier works). Are there any other hidden attacks lurking in the programming? Nope. There's just Cacophany -- and they sure won't make a remake to give out one ability that is exactly the same as Soundproof.
"Oh, the G/S/C gameplay!" Like chasing a legendary gerbil, which was in FR/LG? Like sprinkling a "tree" with water to reveal Sudowoodo, which was Emerald?
Another reason they probably won't remake G/S/C: because part of Diamond and Pearl's main hype was the inclusion of many old G/S/C features. Day and night. Backwards-compatibility. The Poketchi's eerie similarity to the Pokegear. And even Sweet Honey, a concept that was originally to be put in G/S/C but was later scrapped.
They made a remake. They could probably make remakes of others, like Metroid 2 or Super Metroid. Either one would make a lot of money. But they haven't made a remake. Why? Who knows?
And before you say, "Well, they did that remake only two years ago! That's not a long time; maybe they'll remake more!", just remember that FR/LG were also released in 2004.
"Gotta catch 'em all."
Why do people complain about unobtainable Pokemon if the game isn't about the Pokedex?
Cramming 386 Pokemon in one game? To do that, they'd require either a really, really big map (which they didn't have in Ru/Sa), or add time of day. They did neither -- because of two possible reasons. One, the GBA didn't have the capabilities (which is possible). Two, they were in a hurry to release the newest Pokemon game and didn't want to take the time (that's possible too). The Colosseum point is also moot, as it wasn't made by Game Freak. It doesn't count.
And that's not all that FR/LG added. They stuck in move tutors so that Pokemon could learn R/B/Y TMs. "Well, how will Pokemon learn G/S/C TMs?" Why, in Emerald, of course! They added G/S/C TMs as move tutors in Emerald.
Something else that was added in FR/LG? Three moves that had lain hidden in the programming of Ruby and Sapphire. When the games came out, people were curious about certain attacks that no Pokemon could learn -- Volt Tackle, Frenzy Plant, Blast Burn, and Hydrocannon. (They had also discovered Icicle Spear, but that later turned out to be one of Shellder's level-up moves). The mystery was solved when FR/LG came out and each of the starters could learn an elemental Hyper Beam. People were still curious about the one move that existed, Volt Tackle -- but when Emerald came out, Volt Tackle turned out to be a Pichu move (trivia: Volt Tackle is actually based on "Volteccer," the signature move of Pulseman, one of Game Freak's earlier works). Are there any other hidden attacks lurking in the programming? Nope. There's just Cacophany -- and they sure won't make a remake to give out one ability that is exactly the same as Soundproof.
"Oh, the G/S/C gameplay!" Like chasing a legendary gerbil, which was in FR/LG? Like sprinkling a "tree" with water to reveal Sudowoodo, which was Emerald?
Another reason they probably won't remake G/S/C: because part of Diamond and Pearl's main hype was the inclusion of many old G/S/C features. Day and night. Backwards-compatibility. The Poketchi's eerie similarity to the Pokegear. And even Sweet Honey, a concept that was originally to be put in G/S/C but was later scrapped.
I could just as easily play the "Metroid" card -- Metroid being another big Nintendo franchise, k. Metroid is a popular game for many systems -- Metroid (NES), Metroid 2 (GB), Super Metroid (SNES), Metroid Prime (GCN), Metroid: Fusion (GBA), Metroid Prime 2 (GCN), Metroid: Zero Mission (GBA), Metroid Prime: Hunters (DS), Metroid Prime 3: Corruption (Wii). Of these, how many are remakes? One. Metroid: Zero Mission, which came out in 2004, was a remake of the original Metroid, which came out in 1986.
They made a remake. They could probably make remakes of others, like Metroid 2 or Super Metroid. Either one would make a lot of money. But they haven't made a remake. Why? Who knows?
And before you say, "Well, they did that remake only two years ago! That's not a long time; maybe they'll remake more!", just remember that FR/LG were also released in 2004.
Gah, I've got to stop posting in these threads, because they give me an irresistable urge to flame someone. Trooper Guy,
next time I go write a novel in a remake thread, smack me please, would ya? I need some accountability here. .__.
next time I go write a novel in a remake thread, smack me please, would ya? I need some accountability here. .__.
Well, Bent's got it covered pretty much. I'll make it simple.
FRLG was made to finish the PokeDex. Emerald has the TM's, and DP has the features.
FRLG has the Johto Pokemon, as well as Colosseum and Emerald.
As well, remember that the 3rd generation games were for GBA, so the couldn't fit every Pokemon into the maps.
What purpose does a remake serve now? None. It's passed.
FRLG was made to finish the PokeDex. Emerald has the TM's, and DP has the features.
FRLG has the Johto Pokemon, as well as Colosseum and Emerald.
As well, remember that the 3rd generation games were for GBA, so the couldn't fit every Pokemon into the maps.
What purpose does a remake serve now? None. It's passed.
Mello_Charla
Beginning Trainer
sigh, i'll make it simple too i geuss..
like i said before, people want a remake because gold and silver were fun games too, it would be nice to play it with better graphics,sound and the extras and be able to battle their Kanto and Hoen buds with it. i know alot of people didn't buy firered/Leafgreen to compleate their pokedex. they are all totaly different games.
But as someone said before this is just gonna be a never ending debate anyway, and depends on who you are wether you want it or not
like i said before, people want a remake because gold and silver were fun games too, it would be nice to play it with better graphics,sound and the extras and be able to battle their Kanto and Hoen buds with it. i know alot of people didn't buy firered/Leafgreen to compleate their pokedex. they are all totaly different games.
But as someone said before this is just gonna be a never ending debate anyway, and depends on who you are wether you want it or not
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Erus Black Mage
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NO,
Leave something cool untouched please.
Leave something cool untouched please.
MewIllusion
the mystic
I don't get your point with that right there. Saying that FR/LG were also realeased in 2004 just makes me think that there is more chance for more remakes. Maybe they are just starting to remake the games. who knows.
I understand some of your points. I don't agree with all of them since pokemon games aren't just about fitting all of the good features throughout many games. They could make a game just for fans and to make money even though it is not needed. And i never said that they would make a remake. just that i would like them to and that i think it is quite possible. If you can't see my points then i'm done fighting. No one really has any idea if they will or not. I think it would probably sell very well on a DS remake. They could even add new features to it that haven't been in other games. they could add many things that would make people buy them.
Ace Hardlight
I want race car bed
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I don't know if they would make a remake or not. But, I do like the idea of a whole new game set in Johto. Now that would be interesting.
GameFreak should of just added Johto in FR/LG/E or D/P, that way their wouldn't be all this talking of a remake. I'm sure they could of added in Johto in FR/LG, or in Emerald after you beaten the Battle Frontier, you can go to Johto, instead of just getting a berry. And in D/P after you beat the E4 and got the Natural Pokedex, you could go to Johto. Their is still that 3rd game to D/P, like G/S/C and R/S/E, so they made add Johto their, but I doubt it.
I guess we just have to wait and see.
GameFreak should of just added Johto in FR/LG/E or D/P, that way their wouldn't be all this talking of a remake. I'm sure they could of added in Johto in FR/LG, or in Emerald after you beaten the Battle Frontier, you can go to Johto, instead of just getting a berry. And in D/P after you beat the E4 and got the Natural Pokedex, you could go to Johto. Their is still that 3rd game to D/P, like G/S/C and R/S/E, so they made add Johto their, but I doubt it.
I guess we just have to wait and see.
Zephyr Flare
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If you haven't noticed, I made a thread and even an announcement all about it.
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