Sham said:Also add “Dragon Buster” as one of the weirdest things the writers have pulled out their arse
This is pretty much my opinion. Also the cancellation of the TR vs TP episodes pretty much killed all the hype that was building up to that in the first 20 or so episodes.I don’t necessarily hate BW but I feel like the complaints against them are fully justified.
The main reason why I don’t like the series nearly as much as others is how Ash was handled. The humor somewhat makes up for that. Iris and Cilan were cool characters but nothing that interesting. I found every rival not named Steven lackluster though. Their interactions with each other (i.e Georgia and Burgundy being salty commentators at every tournament) was cool but I felt it was very lacking with the actual rivalries.
The best things to come from BW were the constant tournaments and Krookodile.
One small thing I really liked in Best Wishes was how each companion had their own rival. Then watching all the rivals come together and interact was hilarious. Iris/Georgia interactions never failed to amuse me, and Burgundy was such a nice foil to Cilan. There were so many supporting/recurring characters, it really felt nice.
I found her rivalry with Cilan to be weird and more so an obsession than an actual rivalry since they only battled once and Cilan always seemed indifferent towards her or neutral
Krookodile
you're not wrong. Though Greninja is slightly less impressive to me because it's not a goofy show off but it makes up for it with its powerToo bad none of those characters ever appeared again after episode 108 in a 142-episode series.
I also found it weird Cilan never became an S-class connoisseur when they clearly set him up for that.
You would like the Dark-type ace.
I also found it weird Cilan never became an S-class connoisseur when they clearly set him up for that.
I never had any real problems with BW or Iris as a character in general other than Cilian being pretty dull as a character that relied too heavily on the constant “I’m a connoisseur” gag. My main issue was that Iris treated Axew too much like a small child and let it play too much and not do more training to help it get stronger. Togepi literally had more training from Misty than the Dragon had. And she hardly used Excadrill even though it was her power house until Dragonite and then the Steel Type was shoved aside and rarely seen outside of group camping scenes.
Captain Jigglypuff said:Togepi literally had more training from Misty than the Dragon had.
There was the one episode beginning where Misty tries to teach Togepi how to attack a tiny dummy but it hugs it instead and then Misty shows it how to perform a Headbutt and ends up hurting herself. I believe it was the Pinkin Island episode and where Togepi learns Metronome. Misty is describing to Togepi how to attack but it doesn’t understand since it is a baby.I don't know about that. I don't remember Kasumi doing any kind of formal training with Togepy, and it seemed like Togepy learned most of its attacks off-screen or by accident. Iris was at least shown having several battles using Kibago to make it stronger, such as against Satoshi and Shirona I believe.
There was the one episode beginning where Misty tries to teach Togepi how to attack a tiny dummy but it hugs it instead and then Misty shows it how to perform a Headbutt and ends up hurting herself. I believe it was the Pinkin Island episode and where Togepi learns Metronome. Misty is describing to Togepi how to attack but it doesn’t understand since it is a baby.
DatsRight said:Basically one brief instance and then she gave up completely then. Iris' moments with Axew weren't exactly well flourished either but they were at least ongoing and she made SOME progress, just not NEARLY enough for what was set up.
As nostalgic as Togepi is, I think nearly every baby has topped it in terms of agency with its trainer up until its two part finale. Even the likes of Dedenne and Shaymin were successfully commanded and took part in a few trainer events. Misty couldn't do much with Togepi besides carry it.
WaterTypeStarter said:Honestly, for what it was, Axew was endearing. Like some pets in real life would often do things annoying.