AuraChannelerChris
Easygoing Luxray.
Goh's got an expiration date. Ash doesn't. That's why.
First thing. Yes, but nothing he has gotten has had long term consequences. Also, Mythical Pokémon and Legendary Pokémon are considered to be two different groups (though I'd still call Mew a Legendary as well). So it's not like Ash went and caught Moltres or Ho-Oh. Also, Ash didn't keep Solgaleo. That was a temporary arrangement done for the arc. Also one-of-a-kind transformations do not mean Legendary Pokémon. It's just an anime thing for funsies, like with the human characters getting civilian powers on occasion. Goh getting Legendaries can't be justified with this.This doesn't hold up because the show has already given Ash one-of-a-kind transformations (Ash-Greninja/Bond Phenomenon), Ultra Beasts (Poipole), a box legendary to raise (Nebby that evolved into Solgaleo), and a mythical (Meltan/Melmetal). And the show has continued on...
So...basically a rehash of Movie 8?
The distinction is only due to how players can obtain them in the games. Legendary Pokemon are obtained through normal gameplay, and Mythical Pokemon are distributed via events. Although there are some exceptions to how Mythical are obtained in newer games, with Deoxys being available in the Delta Episode in ORAS, Keldeo in Crown Tundra, Celebi in the 3DS virtual console edition of Crystal, and now Mew and Jirachi in BDSP.Mythical Pokémon and Legendary Pokémon are considered to be two different groups
There are very few things in the anime that have had long term consequences since Ash is still canonically 10 and the show seems to forget about major events as soon as he moves to a new region. You seem to be ignoring that he caught a Meltan and evolved it into Melmetal that was never released. It helped him win the Manalo conference, and it showed up when Ash and Goh returned to Alola.but nothing he has gotten has had long term consequences
True, he didn’t keep Solgaleo. But it shows that he has had had legendaries before, even temporarily.Also, Ash didn't keep Solgaleo. That was a temporary arrangement done for the arc.
So…you want Goh to have Alain’s story from the Team Flare Arc of XY?Second, kind of, except there are consequences that can't be undone. Cities suffer heavy damage, and Goh has to live with his mistake.
I'd say Legendaries are put on a slightly 'greater scope' tier in the anime compared to Mythicals. Mythicals tend to be humanised more, they can be rather powerful, but they're rarely as broken as Legendaries, where it's often considered a feat to make them flinch, let alone BEAT one in a fair fight. Sure there's some uniqueness decay going on, especially with older ones like the bird trio, but they're still kinda treated more as a force of nature not to be tampered with.The distinction is only due to how players can obtain them in the games. Legendary Pokemon are obtained through normal gameplay, and Mythical Pokemon are distributed via events. Although there are some exceptions to how Mythical are obtained in newer games, with Deoxys being available in the Delta Episode in ORAS, Keldeo in Crown Tundra, Celebi in the 3DS virtual console edition of Crystal, and now Mew and Jirachi in BDSP.
There is nothing inherently different about Legendaries and Mythicals in-universe, either in terms of uniqueness, power level, or other. It is mainly a distinction between how they are obtained in the games.
Tell that to BDSP, where they're pretty much permanently available as long as you have a save from two other games (which are easily obtainable, thanks to the internet). Far from being an event, they're always there, and they don't have an expiration date. The only one that has an expiration date is Manaphy.The distinction is only due to how players can obtain them in the games. Legendary Pokemon are obtained through normal gameplay, and Mythical Pokemon are distributed via events. Although there are some exceptions to how Mythical are obtained in newer games, with Deoxys being available in the Delta Episode in ORAS, Keldeo in Crown Tundra, Celebi in the 3DS virtual console edition of Crystal, and now Mew and Jirachi in BDSP.
By that logic, he technically had a Lugia too. But unless you're going to tell me that Goh's Suicune is temporarily his, the topic point still stands.True, he didn’t keep Solgaleo. But it shows that he has had had legendaries before, even temporarily.
I was thinking more Luke Fon Fabre from Tales of the Abyss.So…you want Goh to have Alain’s story from the Team Flare Arc of XY?
I'm not saying they'll do it. I mean, if I gave the people in charge of the show the slightest amount of credit when it comes to the anime, I'd say it's possible. But I don't (I haven't since Tobias; they made it explicitly clear then that they don't even care about their own in-universe lore). No, this is just an idea for a storyline.Eww, keep Goh away from having any similarities with Luke fon Fabre.
Have him succeed in his goal and catch Mew, but have everything fall apart as a result, because it turns out that the people that brought him on this 'Project Mew' excursion are evil. This sets the entire cast into crisis mode, as things are falling apart everywhere, and Goh has to return Mew to where he got it from to stop it, forcing him to question whether his goals and ideals are really the right way to do things.
True, he didn’t keep Solgaleo. But it shows that he has had had legendaries before, even temporarily.
I guess the difference is kind of obscured by the actual interactions between trainer and Pokemon. A trainer could only unofficially care for a Pokemon, but still raise them, utilise them and bond with them as much as one of their own. You could say Goh has done far less as a trainer with his official Suicune than previous protagonists have with their unofficial captures.No it doesn’t. It was only in his care, not his ownership. The entire thing with Nebby was just mimicking the story of SM where Nebby is cared for until it eventually evolves into the box legendary so they can after Lusamine. Only difference is they switched the role from Lillie to Ash. And if we’re gonna count that, then we’d have to count things like Larvitar, Melloetta, and Squishy. Caring for =/= ownership.
Partly because they have special lore & mythos in the pokemon world, partly because they're extremely difficult to catch in the games, & partly because they seem like unkillable gods in PVPThis.
What's so special about Legendaries?
And Gou did try releasing Suicune AFTER the conflict was done.Still to call it second hand poaching is entirely inaccurate, which was my original point. Clearly Suicune understood that eventually otherwise it never would have agreed to work with Go and become his Pokemon