Why do ice types only have one resistance?

[congo kong]

Ice types are scammed when it comes to resistances. I really don't understand why ice types aren't resistant to normal and flying type moves. Here's my reasoning. Imagine body slamming a block of ice. You'd just hurt yourself. It doesn't make sense that ice types aren't resistant to normal type moves. In many ways they are like rock types. Flying types are a similar situation, but also it is often common for types to be resistant to other types that their moves are super effective against. For example, electric types are resistant to flying types, and electric is super effective against flying. The same goes for psychic to fighting, steel to rock, rock to fire, fire to grass, grass to water, etc.

Also, can someone explain why fighting type moves are super effective against steel? How could punching steel do anything in reality?

 

[DarkRidley]

Since when has Pokemon weakness made sense? Look at Flying types - are birds really any more electrified than other living creatures? Heck, even Grass beating Water doesn't really make sense.

I'd say that despite weird things like this, the types are too balanced to change.

 

[Yonowaru in Chaos]

Well Ice is the fragilist of the hard bodied typings. To compensate, Ice has wonderful offensive coverage, so the resistances aren't that important really. Few Ice-types focus on defences anyway.

Since when has Pokemon weakness made sense? Look at Flying types - are birds really any more electrified than other living creatures? Heck, even Grass beating Water doesn't really make sense.

I'd say that despite weird things like this, the types are too balanced to change.

Birds have fragile bodies, due to their need to be light enough to be airborne. Imagine a sparrow being struck by lightning.

Grasses take nutrients from the water, and water can't really do anything to a plant except drown it (but you'd need prolonged flooding to drown a plant, which is practically impossible).

 

[DarkRidley]

Birds have fragile bodies, due to their need to be light enough to be airborne. Imagine a sparrow being struck by lightning.

Grasses take nutrients from the water, and water can't really do anything to a plant except drown it (but you'd need prolonged flooding to drown a plant, which is practically impossible).

Nearly everything dies when struck by lightning. A guinea pig is larger than a sparrow, and it would die just as quickly. Birds aren't "extra weak" to lightning.

And, okay, so water can't hurt plants - but then how can plants hurt water?

 

[pkmnhippy]

grass absorbs water?

 

[DarkRidley]

grass absorbs water?

You water plants and they absorb it. It's how they drink (not how they eat as some people believe, they produce their own food with energy from the sun). So if a water move is used on a plant, it won't do much. However, it is possible to drown a plant.

 

[rekreatur]

Pokemon never makes sence so asking questions like this is just a waste of time. It's like asking how can 6 Eggxegutes (or however you spell it) come from the same Egg

And Ice-Types aren't the only ones that have only one resistance, Normal-Types have only one too.

 

[Char1016]

Okay, here I come.

Ice and Normal types come first.
By the first post, it's like trying to say Ice is hard, but for that to be true there's only a few Pokemon which have a body made of Ice, like Regice. But there's Jynx, it's body isn't made of Ice and it isn't hard, and so hitting it with a Body Slam and doing normal damage is just normal.

Ice and Flying types now.
In the summer we have sometimes those hot winds, and Flying types are all about Wind, right? So, hot wind > ice. It melts it

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[MetalFlygon08]

i really want to know how ground beats poison the ice stuff makes sense to me sfter all!

 

[Sapphire Ocean Princess]

Since when has this particular topic ever made sense?

i really want to know how ground beats poison the ice stuff makes sense to me sfter all!

A Poison can seep into ground, killing the plants nearby but the ground will always remain there. Poison cannot move the ground, after all.

 

[Yonowaru in Chaos]

Nearly everything dies when struck by lightning. A guinea pig is larger than a sparrow, and it would die just as quickly. Birds aren't "extra weak" to lightning.

They're more exposed to lightning though. Few non-flightless birds live in habitats where they're not exposed to lightning. The altitude at which they live in doesn't provide them with a lot of protection or resistance to electric shocks. An electric shock that won't kill a guinea pig will certainly render a sparrow flightless (if it isn't dead yet). A guinea pig is much more robust than you think (well, compared to a sparrow, at least).

To summarise, Flying-types are just less weatherproof than other pokemon (as well as being much more physically fragile).

However, it is possible to drown a plant.

It is possible, but it takes a long time, much longer than the time it takes to blast water at a plant. The plant needs to be submerged in to the water for a few hours before it even starts to wither (depends on the type of plant though).

 

[DarkRidley]

They're more exposed to lightning though. Few non-flightless birds live in habitats where they're not exposed to lightning. The altitude at which they live in doesn't provide them with a lot of protection or resistance to electric shocks. An electric shock that won't kill a guinea pig will certainly render a sparrow flightless (if it isn't dead yet). A guinea pig is much more robust than you think (well, compared to a sparrow, at least).

To summarise, Flying-types are just less weatherproof than other pokemon (as well as being much more physically fragile).

They are more exposed to being shocked. But not literally weak. I'm talking about lightning here - that's deadly to anything. A bird does not fear lighting any less than any other animal. Heck, a guinea pig could die even if the lightning wasn't strong enough to kill them (if that ever happened) - they're so timid that the fright could kill them.

And if Flying-types are physically weaker than other Pokemon, why is Fighting not super effective?

It is possible, but it takes a long time, much longer than the time it takes to blast water at a plant. The plant needs to be submerged in to the water for a few hours before it even starts to wither (depends on the type of plant though).

Yes, that's true, I didn't ask that, I was responding to pkmnhippy. I asked why in the world would plants be powerful against water.

 

[Umbreon-dana]

Balance.

The same reason they gave Steel a plethera of resistances, but terrible coverage.

They gave Ice good coverage, but bad resistances.

They made Normal really common, but made it suck.

 

[-BJ-]

You can't take everything too literally. Besides, it gets more and more confusing the deeper you get, so just accept it.

And some Normal-types aren't that bad. One weakness and a resistance is kinda cool.

 

[Kim62]

What the types represent doesn't matter. What does matter is that the types are balanced and this is done very complicatedly.

 

[Maruno]

It looks like several people in here are mistaking pokémon types for actual physical attributes. An Articuno isn't made of ice, a Pikachu isn't made of electricity, a Growlithe isn't made of fire. Pokémon types are nothing more than an indicator of what types of attacks they specialise in, so asking how plants can overcome water is pointless if you intend to compare it to Grass- and Water-type pokémon.

Besides, the pokémon world is a different place anyway. Half the pokémon around are able to fire energy beams at each other (Hyper Beam), which should have given you a clue. Nature in the pokémon world is simply different, so we can't come up with explanations of pokémon behaviour by comparison to our own world.

 

[Krug]

Here's better question, why isn't poison super effective against Water? Because when you pollute the water, don't you kill the fish?

 

[Maruno]

Here's better question, why isn't poison super effective against Water? Because when you pollute the water, don't you kill the fish?

Because you'd need an awful lot of poison to pollute a pond that much, more than the amount a Poison move is likely to contain. Water-type pokémon are animals just like anything else, and likely mystically create the water they shoot out from nothing (because there always seems to be a lot more coming out than could fit inside it), so there's no more water in particular in a Water pokémon to change anything (not that it would anyway, I suspect). Any Poison move will affect the creature, not the water inside it. Therefore normal effectiveness.

 

[DarkRidley]

It looks like several people in here are mistaking pokémon types for actual physical attributes. An Articuno isn't made of ice, a Pikachu isn't made of electricity, a Growlithe isn't made of fire. Pokémon types are nothing more than an indicator of what types of attacks they specialise in, so asking how plants can overcome water is pointless if you intend to compare it to Grass- and Water-type pokémon.

Besides, the pokémon world is a different place anyway. Half the pokémon around are able to fire energy beams at each other (Hyper Beam), which should have given you a clue. Nature in the pokémon world is simply different, so we can't come up with explanations of pokémon behaviour by comparison to our own world.

...which is why in my first post, I said that the Pokemon world is already balanced and doesn't use real world logic so it's pointless to change Ice types. Our debate was about whether Pokemon does use real world logic or not, because Yonowaru said my examples didn't prove anything, and I defended them.

When I asked how plants overcome water, I merely meant how does Vine Whip do more damage to, say, Wartortle then to something else. It doesn't make sense.

All it means is that the Pokemon types are balanced and, despite inaccuracies, it shouldn't be changed.

 

[Mega Typhlosion]

Since weaknesses and resistances don't make sense, then why not give Ice-Type at least one more resistance? Water for example...
I's unbalanced...it's like Grass having FIVE weaknesses. The world is not fair xD