randomspot555
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1. But these weren't fads. They managed to stay as an integral part of American popular culture. Just like Star Wars, you will NEVER see Star Wars decline or fade away. It has that staying power.
Do you see Mario on the nightly news? Regular SNL parodies of Zelda? Family Guy making it into the news unless they do something particularly controversial.
No, you don't. They are roughly the same general awareness as Pokemon.
Sounds like you're holding a huge double standard just to justify your false premise that Pokemon has somehow "fallen".
The unique thing about Pokemon, at least in America, is it SUSTAINED popularity after being a fad. Whereas most fads such as Pet Rocks and POGS fade into obscurity, Pokemon stayed as a mainstream staple of a large video game producer. And that "fad" status never really left Japan.
2. Let's just say that people aren't lining up in front of Toysrus, Target, or Wal Mart to get the latest Pokemon game anymore.
People no longer have to get to physical stores anymore to obtain games. What's your point?
It is Nintendo's second most popular franchise, but all that money and popularity came from Red, Blue, Gold, and Silver.
And...you know, all the subsequent games, moves, mangas, DVDs, etc... they produced after that.
And that's a fact: Red and Blue sold 24 million copies, Gold and Silver sold 23 million copies, while Black and White only sold 14 million.
And again, your point? The handheld market has changed since 1999.
3. I agree, I'm still surprised it's on air. But that doesn't change the fact that ratings have gone down majorly since the Johto series.
And again, what's your point? If your point is "lol Pokemon is failing", that only makes sense if you ignore every fact such as the changing in children's programming.
4. But there's nothing wrong with holding on to nostalgia.
I didn't say there wasn't.
5. There's a huge difference. Gen I must be respected, it started the series, and without it, there would be NO Pokemon. Gen 5 is simply an extension of the series that wasn't necessary to it's development. You can like any generation, and even prefer a generation over Gen I, but you must have a deep respect for it, without it, you wouldn't be able to enjoy the others.
So Gen I has to be respected, but not anything else?
Sounds like a huge double standard to me.
Depending on how old you are, in the late 90's, you'll remember that at the height of the Pokemon craze, something about it was on the evening news every night. It was VERY popular at one point between 1998-1999.
lol no it wasn't.
And I'm not talking about kids when I'm asking about Chimchar and Snivy, of course they'd know it, they grew up with it. I'm talking about people my age and up (college aged students and up, in particular actual adults). The vast majority of them are not going to know who those Pokemon are, or if they're even Pokemon, for that matter. But if you asked them who Pikachu, Charizard, and Meowth are, they will know.
Anecdotal and meaningless. I know a lot of college aged gamers who play Gen 4 and Gen 5 games. I'm not going to pretend that is something shared among the milliosn of 20 something year olds, but you shouldn't do the same with your own personal experiences.
Also, hate to break it to ya, champ: But EVs and IVs have been around since Gen I.
I'd like you to point to a single person who has actually "disrespected Gen I". I don't see why Gen I should be above being discussed and criticized,because trust me, there's no shortage of people who'll go on and on on how they hate Gen 5.