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meowth-in-boots
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I guess what I'm trying to say is that Harley in the Japanese version might be gay but in the U.S version they don't tell you he is.
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YoshiAngemon
Storm Trainer
He's nothing like Gary Oak! Now THERE'S a rival who we can love. He used to rub it in Ash's face, calling him a loser, and he didn't even bother to tell Ash what his Starter Pokémon was until we saw him unleash it in its final form - Blastoise! And he has his own squad of cheerleaders!
Moonlight.
Well-Known Member
Do I detect a stereotype?
Heh, just saying. First you say Harley acts weird, then you ask if he's gay...
Well, we can't say he's gay unless it actually shows him atracted to guys.
He just...has a typical girly-guy personality I guess.
Heh, just saying. First you say Harley acts weird, then you ask if he's gay...
Well, we can't say he's gay unless it actually shows him atracted to guys.
He just...has a typical girly-guy personality I guess.
Yes, surf. You do detect a stereotype.
And no, seconds person also named surf, you certainly cannot call him gay until he shows that he's attracted to guys
And you, third consecutive member named surf, coincidentally having the same personal details and Corphish avatar asthe two previous members sharing your name, I also agree with this third rendering of the same post. Harley is a typical girly-guy.
See. I agree with all of you guys. Keep on truckin'!
And no, seconds person also named surf, you certainly cannot call him gay until he shows that he's attracted to guys
And you, third consecutive member named surf, coincidentally having the same personal details and Corphish avatar asthe two previous members sharing your name, I also agree with this third rendering of the same post. Harley is a typical girly-guy.
See. I agree with all of you guys. Keep on truckin'!
CyberCubed
Yeah, ok!
meowth-in-boots said:
Um, the writers don't directly tell us Harley's preferences in either version.
They have alluded us to the fact that he prefers boys being as stereotypical as he is, but he never directly says anything about it in either the Japanese version or the dub.
CyberCubed
Yeah, ok!
ChaosMage said:
Judging by the insane about of gay and lesbian characters in anime, I don't think so.
Literally every shoujo anime in Japan has at least one gay or lesbian character.
Since May's story arc is pretty shoujo-ish, the writers decided to throw in as many cliche's as possible. Pretty boy metrosexual, (Drew), Comic relief gay guy who hates protagonist (Harley), Rich bisexual man with blonde hair (Robert), token fangirl of pretty boy metrosexual (Wakana), bisexual girl who crushes on main girl (Kelly), timid boy (Timmy), mother and daughter (Savannah and Sandra).
etc.
All of May's contest rivals seem like they jumped out of a shoujo anime.
CyberCubed
Yeah, ok!
Ah yeah, they're counted with Savannah since she was part of them.
Even worse that the MILF's are crushing over Drew, who is probably no older than Ash. So these married mothers blush and drool over a 14 year old boy?
I mean if there's no age of consent in the Pokemon world that's fine, but to see 25-30 year old mothers crush on a 14 year old kid is really something.
Even worse that the MILF's are crushing over Drew, who is probably no older than Ash. So these married mothers blush and drool over a 14 year old boy?
I mean if there's no age of consent in the Pokemon world that's fine, but to see 25-30 year old mothers crush on a 14 year old kid is really something.
A part of the plotline owes a lot to the nature of Pokemon Coordinating. I've been watching a lot of Olympic primetime coverage on NBC. Coordinating is a lot like figure skating with concentration on showmanship and techniques.CyberCubed said:
Just look at Johnny Weir and Yevgeny Plushenko. Do they not scream Harley and Robert to you? Especially Plushenko as Robert.
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Evanji Axu
Guest
11 out of 10 fangirls conclude that Harley is gay.
Juputoru
M-m-m-m-onobear?!
Harley's about as straight as a rainbow. But that's okay, we wouldn't want him any other way.
Oh sure, it's never directly shown that he's gay, but these are the Pokemon writers we're talking about. They're as subtle as a sledgehammer when it comes to showing that a Pokemon's meant to be female/a person's a homosexual/someone's in love(...hmm, that could be a reason why I don't believe that main character shippings are canon. The evidence almost always involves the writers being subtle)/someone is evil/etc. As much as we all hate stereotypes, that's what they use to get the point across whenever possible. :<
Oh sure, it's never directly shown that he's gay, but these are the Pokemon writers we're talking about. They're as subtle as a sledgehammer when it comes to showing that a Pokemon's meant to be female/a person's a homosexual/someone's in love(...hmm, that could be a reason why I don't believe that main character shippings are canon. The evidence almost always involves the writers being subtle
)/someone is evil/etc. As much as we all hate stereotypes, that's what they use to get the point across whenever possible. :<Jesse GS the II
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CyberCubed said:
Oddly enough, I never noticed that before (well, it's not that odd, given that I don't particularly watch a lot of shoujo anime, but still, I tend to keep abreast of all the outside references on the show).