Why does Harley act weird?

[Blackjack Gabbiani]

You FAIL HARD for quoting the DUB. --; These are the same people that turned Bashou into a woman. Who the hell calls anyone "girlfriend" anymore when using it as a generic term, anyways?

Folks, Harley is not gay. You idiots base everything off of stereotypes. Harley's simply a girlish-looking man who acts effeminate. Doesn't mean he's gay. e_e

Oh yeah, because the dub is the only place where he's flamingly flamboyant.

Go to the Harley fan club and look at the posts before the dub came out.

 

[STJ]

Ah, Ed...I really don't know what to say.

Maybe I'll just wait till Jo-Jo gets here, or taitofan.

LOL... Somehow I don't think Jo-Jo or Taitofan will be able to convince Edward Elric otherswise, CuberCubed.. He seems to be the type of person who sticks by his convictions no matter what other people think..

As for me.. well.. it doesn't bother me either which way if Harley is gay or not... I don't happen to think we'll ever get him all fangirly over another guy.. but then again...

As for the dub, well, for some reason his voice and demenour me of Uncle Arthur from Bewitched....

But people are always going to have different opinions, so what can you do?

 

[Chris]

Good point. I forget, is okama a stereotype for characters that are gay or just for effeminate mannerisms?

Effeminate. Another person who follows the okama type that a lot of people also swear he's gay (thanks to the dub) would be Freeza of Dragon Ball Z. He and Harley tend to have effeminate mannerisms while somewhat being polite at first..until they show off their true colors and just drop the polite mannerism.

Of course people are basing everything on stereotypes. This series is known for it's blatant stereotyping of characters to get its point across and has thrived on that for the past 10 years. Now, I've never been one to pair up characters and jump to conclusions on their sexuality based upon a few minor actions in various scenes, but its like the scriptwriters are going out of their way to say "Hey look! Stereotypical flaming homosexual on the port bow!" in this particular instance.

The only stereotypes they've done a majority of the time was the helpless damsel in distress or tough girl. Both being the generic girl of the week that plagued Jouto. :s We haven't seen any pervish old men. Nor have we seen any black folk in the series, at all (Rougela NOT included), so no black-face people. Takeshi's close to the young male stereotype, only he isn't a perv but rather just loves the ladies and wishes to make one his girlfriend.

With Harley, it's not so much the stereotype of being gay, but rather giving him the effeminate attitude since we've not really had any male in the series do it before. And believe it or not, not all effeminate men are gay. Harley has shown nothing to conclude that he's gay. We don't see him flirting with men. He has not said anything about his sexual preferences. Going by stereotypes = null argument since they're nothing but stereotypes that have no evidence to prove true.

Oh yeah, because the dub is the only place where he's flamingly flamboyant.

Go to the Harley fan club and look at the posts before the dub came out.

The Japanese version just has him being effeminate. The dub just flat out makes him camp, like they've done with poor James over the years. :|

And once again, manner of speech or your actions do NOT tell others what your sexual preferences are. e_e Otherwise one would conclude that tomboy girls or girls that act boyish are automatically lesbians.

 

[Blackjack Gabbiani]

He's pretty camp in Japanese.

And we've seen pervish old men *and* black people. Remember the old guy from Aopulco? Ryu or whatever? And one of the three jerks who was beating up Lapras was black, in addition to a Rocket Grunt from the first movie.

 

[Alfonso]

Not to mention Jump, a Hoenn League opponent. He was black.

And had stereotypical big lips, as all black anime characters seem to have.

 

[ハルカ and ゴンベ]

Folks, Harley is not gay. You idiots base everything off of stereotypes. Harley's simply a girlish-looking man who acts effeminate. Doesn't mean he's gay. e_e

So Ed, you're pretty much saying That if it walks like a duck, looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck...then it must be a Chicken? -_-; and i'd also like to point out you're saying "Harley is not gay" yet we have seen no evidence that He isn't.

 

[taitofan]

Oh, my poor little head. I'd bust out the "atashi" argument again, but it seems to be falling on deaf ears. Seriously... This is Pocket Monsters people. Gravy put it very nicely indeed.

Oh, and in Japan your speech can indeed say a lot about you. But that's going back to the atashi speech. And it seems that a certain someone is bound and determined to not care. Oh well. Think whatever you like, but for the love of all that's good and holy, don't call us idiots for believing what we like. Especially when the original is more on our side this time. What happened to "live and let live"?

That said... I'm glad Harley acts/talks the way he does. In my own personal opinion, he's the most interesting character to come about in a long time.

 

[The Big Al]

So Ed, you're pretty much saying That if it walks like a duck, looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck...then it must be a Chicken? -_-; and i'd also like to point out you're saying "Harley is not gay" yet we have seen no evidence that He isn't.

Actually it'd be more like a goose. Metrosexuals (and the "sexual" suffix is really misleading) are straight as an arrow but enjoy things not considered to be a part of the stereotypical male's likes and dislikes. Like Ed said the ONE thing that would prove Harley is a homosexual is if he hit on men. He doesn't hit on men. Just because he acts like a girl doesn't make him gay. Him and Brock in bed together would.

 

[ハルカ and ゴンベ]

. Just because he acts like a girl doesn't make him gay. Him and Brock in bed together would.

ROFL!!! I think Harley could do better.

EDIT: I'd also like to point out that Harley and I act almost identical...so...^_^;

 

[articuno_trumps_all]

So Ed, you're pretty much saying That if it walks like a duck, looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck...then it must be a Chicken? -_-; and i'd also like to point out you're saying "Harley is not gay" yet we have seen no evidence that He isn't.

Owned!

Harley act’s “weird” because he’s very flamboyant. That is very separate from his homosexuality. And that's all I have to say about that. e_e

 

[The Big Al]

Him acting like you doesn't prove jack. Because you get on the internet and post in a forum, you're a student at CMU because you're doing the same thing I'm doing? Believe or not, people's actions are not dictated by their sex habits.

 

[articuno_trumps_all]

Him acting like you doesn't prove jack. Because you get on the internet and post in a forum, you're a student at CMU because you're doing the same thing I'm doing? Believe or not, people's actions are not dictated by their sex habits.

Maybe you should reread my post with the use of a dictionary. XD I thought most people would understand what the word separate meant, but I guess that was overestimating you.

Atashi proves it all. End of story.

 

[The Big Al]

1). I write that post before you posted.
2). I think you've missed the point. He acts the way he does because that's what he does. It has nothing to do with his sexuality. Actually, I'm surprised you're over analyzing a cartoon character.

 

[articuno_trumps_all]

1). I write that post before you posted..

Fair enough.

2). I think you've missed the point. He acts the way he does because that's what he does. It has nothing to do with his sexuality. Actually, I'm surprised you're over analyzing a cartoon character

Isn't that the exact same thing I said (except actually being true to his character)......

Harley act’s “weird” because he’s very flamboyant. That is very separate from his homosexuality

 

[Torchic23]

EDIT: I'd also like to point out that Harley and I act almost identical...so...^_^;

Ok, that's a little odd ^^; [Don't worry, i'm not trying to bash ya, I'm just not a Harley fan]

Why is Harley odd:
Because that's the way the dub is, and that's what everybody else says ^^;

Is Harley gay:
It has never been said but some people do believe it. It may or may not be true, he could be a very girly guy, but that doesn't make him gay, like everyone else said -_-;

I think Harley is a little gay, but that's just my opinion, and it may not be true

 

[The Big Al]

He acts femine =/= he fraks men. It could be he prefers being that way because that's what he does because that's his personality, sexuality not withstanding. Why do I always wear slacks and never jeans? Why do I study the weather instead of accounting?

Wait, I know. Harley is a lesbian trapped in a man's body.

 

[Geki]

Harley is most likely gay in Japan, but the dub would NEVER mention that. XD The dub does give him a pretty good gay voice though, I have to admit. He basically tries to confuse May by acting nice and sincere, like Caroline said about being sincere. He tries to hard in my opinion.

 

[The Big Al]

If anything, he's worse in the dub :/

 

[Chris]

So Ed, you're pretty much saying That if it walks like a duck, looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck...then it must be a Chicken? -_-;

Hello. We're talking about an animated human character. Not an animal. Stay focused, here. We can walk and act like animals, yet that doesn't make us animals. ;\

YOUR LOGIC IS FAULTY!

NEXT!

Atashi proves it all. End of story.

Again, let's refer back to the Harley and Freeza comparison. Both put up the images that they can be polite and mocking another person at the same time. They both have mannerisms that differ from what regular people are acostumed to. But once the crap hits the fan, they drop it and let their full rage drop their mannerisms.

You can't say Harley doesn't act differently when he's angry, especially when it comes to his heated battles with Haruka.

Oh and btw, I'm refering to the Japanese voices of both characters. Not the English one. ;\ So this applies to the words they say and use.

NEXT!

Harley is most likely gay in Japan, but the dub would NEVER mention that. XD

Again, 4Kids has made a good deal of jokes to make James come across as being pretty camp when he never did in the original. Don't underestimate 4Kids' abilities to slip a few things under the radars in ways of adult jokes.

 

[Heracross]

Don't we all act differently when we're angry? >.>