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Why was G-chomp added to Ubers!?!?!

Discussion in 'Older Gen RMT' started by 212709, Nov 2, 2008.

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  1. 212709

    212709 Pokemon Master

    I've used garchomp for the majority of my time w/ D/P, and just found out that he's an uber! What gives?
     
  2. PhantomSoul

    PhantomSoul The Phantasmal Lord

    Can't believe you actually did it. But seriously your breaking a lot of rules by postig this here. Go post this thread in the general pokemon discussion area or something like that.

    Just to answer your question Garchomp was used too much thats why it was placed in ubers.
     
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  3. Digital Love

    Digital Love Jew 'Fro's Graduate

    So liek one day Garchomp wuz liek "Hey u guyz, why am i's so gewds?" and peeps wur lieks "idk chomp, you da man" so now he's an uber
     
  4. Lucazard

    Lucazard Spoof Man™

    garchomp was also moved because it's quite hard to find a counter for it, if you're lucky you might have an ice type with you but it's too hard to predict
     
  5. PokeCrossbow

    PokeCrossbow Pokemon Hunter

    Lol, thats a funny post xD

    I'm not big fan of chomp but ya as lucazard said, hard to have a counter icey things for chomp ;]
     
  6. Caesar

    Caesar F.E.A.R the rat

    he was moved mainly because of the yache berry set. he became very hard to counter and was considered overcentralising, thus he is now uber, so is deoxy s if ya didn't know

    i don't think you quite understand how the tiers work. Ou is standard, uber is the ou ban list (not ou pokemon used most. uu is the "weaker" tier, bl serves as both a uu ban list and a hang out for the pokemon not quite good enough for ou
     
  7. TogeticTheRuler

    TogeticTheRuler Well-Known Member

    There are NO usable counters.

    Anything that comes close to a counter *******ises the pokemon so much that it loses most/all of its usefulness against anything other then garchomp. A good example is SUICUNE.
     
  8. pkmnhippy

    pkmnhippy Banned

    Good thread, you get 5 stars.
    What is this I don't even.
     
  9. Lucazard

    Lucazard Spoof Man™

    This is what i thought of the tiers, OU are pokemon that get over used, UU are pokemon that are under used, BL are pokemon on the border line where they are half half and UBER are too strong pokemon and all those other reasons, this is what Smogon says
     
  10. TogeticTheRuler

    TogeticTheRuler Well-Known Member

    OU is another name for standard play. UU are for pokemon are inferior to standard pokemon to the point. BL is when an UU breaks UU and moves up, or a former OU pokemon gets very little usage so it's moved down
     
  11. Lucazard

    Lucazard Spoof Man™

    where did you get this info i got it from smogon.
     
  12. u learn as u go, i picked it up off others actually didnt discover smogon til fairly recenty. i sometimes wish i never had discovered it.
     
  13. Blue Ace

    Blue Ace Pokemon is Dead

    Tier decisions based off raw usage alone is still pretty stupid really.
     
  14. UltimoVenusaur

    UltimoVenusaur DracoFist FTW

    The fact that there is are tiers for über and BL suggests that it's not based wholly on usage.
     
  15. Blue Ace

    Blue Ace Pokemon is Dead

    Ubers is the only exception.

    BL is double being both a ban list for UU and a place where low usage OU go.
     
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  16. Ballade

    Ballade Ultimate Destoryer

    Not really. The tier list is for how powerful pokemon are. Whilst the names are the frequency, the placement is the power. Powerful pokemon like Infernape and Weavile are placed in the OU because they're powerful, thus they're over used. BL is for weaker pokemon that mop the floor with their competition in the UU, but are too weak in this or that aspect to stand in the OU. It could be because of their move pool, their base stats, or their ability and typing in combination with their move pool and base stats.
     
  17. Blue Ace

    Blue Ace Pokemon is Dead

    Oh how I wish this was true, sadly it's not the case.

    Smogon tier list is about the usage before anything else, if it gets high usage its OU, low usage is UU, pokes that are too strong for UU are BL, and OU pokes that aren't used as much regardless of how good they are are BL.

    One could say usefulness is reflected in usage, which is what Smogon believes is absolute, though that really shouldnt be all there is to it.

    For example Donphan is clearly not OU, but since it gets high usage they put it there, despite the fact that it's not that good really. As a wall Hippowdon beats it, as a spinner it's outclassed by many others and weak to Toxic Spikes, as a sweeper it is outclassed by Rhyperior.

    Same with Tentacruel, all it really does is counter MixApe, Rapid Spin and set up T-Spikes, outside of that it doesn't do much if anything else. The poison typing doesn't allow it to come in on ground types like other bulky waters can or the ever so common Earthquake, it's special attack is far too low to pose a threat to anything, and it can't recover without giving up what it can do best. Yet it's OU because of usage.

    Which brings us to a problem, for example if everyone started using Spinda, despite the fact that it sucks, but gets a gigantic boost in usage, then it would be OU.
     
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  18. DarkRidley

    DarkRidley Deals and Issues

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6Kl1jzlazw

    This is why Garchomp is uber.

    Seriously, I thought the move was wrong too, but still, I don't know why we can't just ignore Smogon's judgement for once. I mean, it's not like they made Pokemon. There's a lot to thank them for, but nevertheless, Garchomp shouldn't be Uber in many people's opinions, and basing it entirely on usage is silly. Serebii should really break away from Smogon.
     
  19. ForteXXX

    ForteXXX Call me…… Ilforte~!!

    Liek, omg, I freaking CANT stop laughing, that was freaking hilarious, you get 4 1/2 stars and 3 cookies ^_^

    Tru dat! Although I never was a fan of chomp ><; the video was weird, I don't think smogon is that arrogant, but how would I know, I don't go on smogon anymore >_>

    Chomp is Uber because… People used him too much. It's as simple as Chomp got used TOO much so he's Uber, Weezing didn't get used ENOUGH not he's UU. I don't think that people didn't expect him, I mean if you didn't expect chomp you deserved to lose, so if you expect him every team should've had a Chomp counter. I mean, in G/S/C EVERY team had a Snorlax counter, Lax was close but never got banned to Ubers, and whoever didn't have a Lax counter lost.

    So Chomp shouldn't be uber, Smogon needs to lose some credibility and, if not Serebii, somebody else needs to make a different tier list.
     
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  20. Blue Ace

    Blue Ace Pokemon is Dead

    People are being mislead here, usage isn't what makes pokemon Ubers, and it certainly isn't the reason Garchomp was deemed Uber. Usage only applies to every other tier.

    Garchomp was banned because he was incredibly powerful and virtually un counterable, it's as simple as that.




    EDIT: Salavoir wanted to say something, though lag is getting the best of him apparently.

     
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