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Will 5th gen NOT be Backwards compatible?

pokefan90

<<Evil???
1.)Do you all remember when you could no longer trade with your earlyer versions of R/B/Y and G/S/C to get your precious pokes? Do you think this will happen after D/P?

2.)The national pokedex is riddiculousluy huge unless they make a wii pokemon box to transfer your old pokemon, it would take hors to trade them all in.

3.)They'd have to consider that alot of us wont be playing pokemon when 5th gen comes out(if pokemon makes it there). In that case all the noobs can't complete the national dex.

4.)My solution would be more counterparts to D/P, new region but same dex,or a farfetch'd remake of G/S/C (all still 4th gen).

5.)And then, years later no more tradebacks.

What do you think?(answer by # please)
 

Leon Phelps

Don't Tread on Me
Why are there so many threads about 5th gen? Most of the people don't know a damn thing about D/P... in America.
 

pokefan90

<<Evil???
Why are there so many threads about 5th gen? Most of the people don't know a damn thing about D/P... in America.

If they don't know then they can ask. The serebii.net website is updating things on D/P you know. Answer a question or buzz off.
 

Starmie

Well-Known Member
To answer your question, it probably will be. They seemed to have learned their lesson since G/S/C and Ru/Sa/Em
 

Leon Phelps

Don't Tread on Me
If they don't know then they can ask. The serebii.net website is updating things on D/P you know. Answer a question or buzz off.
My point is that the question can't be answered. It's way too early to be asking about a 5th generation. Enjoy the 4th generation first.

And I'm aware of the D/P info on the main page. -_-
 

pokefan90

<<Evil???
To answer your question, it probably will be. They seemed to have learned their lesson since G/S/C and Ru/Sa/Em


do mean that they will be or won't be compatible?


They had to come up w/ fired and lfgrn also colo and XD for the dex,
though it all looks like they are a big marketing thing with Ho-oh and ShadowLugia wich seem to be the "remakes" of G/S and fr/lg for Red/blue; they couln't avoid this because of the way the link cable works in 3rd gen.

As for leon phelps How are we supposed to enjoy them if theyre not out yet? This thread is just to kill time.
 
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Auraninja

Eh, ragazzo!
To answer your question, it probably will be. They seemed to have learned their lesson since G/S/C and Ru/Sa/Em
The reason R/S/E was not compatible with the G/S/C was because the third generation games did not use the hexadecimal system that G/S/C had. They had to abandon it because there were more than 256 Pokemon.
 
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pokefan90

<<Evil???
Thank you psychic polytoed for that explanation but I read elsewhere that it was that AND the link cable thingy(I don't like them big term words lol).

You reminded me of my dearly missed polytoed from my old crystal version.
 

Zubeon

Well-Known Member
It will be backwards compatible if the hand-held of the time has a slot for DS cards. But it won't be compatible with 3rd gen or lower.
 

Auraninja

Eh, ragazzo!
It will be backwards compatible if the hand-held of the time has a slot for DS cards. But it won't be compatible with 3rd gen or lower.
However, in that case, it would be indirectly compatible with the third gen games.
 

KATHYxx

Linkin Park Trainer
i was actaully anticipating nintendo to cut the cord every two genereations and stop compatability. But since they kept it this time, i think the only reason they stopped the first time was for harware compatability, and i think they did a pretty good job of planning ahead. i don't think there will be compatability issues in the forseeable future.
 

~Ero Oyagi~

Well-Known Member
The 1st gen system meant that trading took forever, and there were many other things which were limited severly by the hexadecimal system. I think that as long as they keep the same format for the new games (which they probably will do) then backwards compatibility will be possible.
 
There are a few reasons. IVs being out of 31 and stuff. And also magic numbers like 128, 512 and most importantly 256 and 1024, caused lots of problems.
 

Shiny Heracross

Well-Known Member
1.)Do you all remember when you could no longer trade with your earlyer versions of R/B/Y and G/S/C to get your precious pokes? Do you think this will happen after D/P?

Maybe. Every two gens is good for me.

2.)The national pokedex is riddiculousluy huge unless they make a wii pokemon box to transfer your old pokemon, it would take hors to trade them all in.
Yeah, I'd prefer to start fresh.

3.)They'd have to consider that alot of us wont be playing pokemon when 5th gen comes out(if pokemon makes it there). In that case all the noobs can't complete the national dex.

You can't be so sure.

4.)My solution would be more counterparts to D/P, new region but same dex,or a farfetch'd remake of G/S/C (all still 4th gen).

Yeah I'd like a remake of G/S/C, but a 5th gen might be cool too if D/P is good.

5.)And then, years later no more tradebacks.

I don't get it.
 

Yemi Hikari

Well-Known Member
Here are my awnsers.

1. The R/B/Y and G/S/C was because of hardware problems, most definatly right KATHYxx. The Gameboy system and the Gameboy color system were just not compatibale with the Gameboy Advance system. I personally haven't a clue what the hexadecimal system was, but this is what I know from digital grapics. First, the Gameboy Advance was a major leap in memory space from the Gameboy and Gameboy color games. Second, this amount of memory was contained in a much smaller place. Acordingly, the DS has both of these fetures, but it has been worked around. Third, there was the amount of data each Pokemon took up. In Advanced, it was much more. There was natures and the stats they had for contests, not to mention abilities. This could not be transfered to the old games. Fourth, we have the fact that the Advance Games graphically have more bits to their images. Fifth, if you havn't noticed, they have changed how we trade Pokemon to DP from RSE and FRLG. First, we are not exactly trading, but transfering. Second, it does not seem that the Advance Systems will get Pokemon from the DP games at all. Third, I am not sure about the transfer system, but I don't know if we lose the Pokemon from the ADvance system at all. Instead they've set up a system where it is harder to get the larger leveled Pokemon over. I seriously think that with this new system, they've covered the problem that accured between second and third generation and that it won't happen again.

2. First of all, I prefer to get what Pokemon I can get in the game there. Then I go to the other games. I also think that the new transfer system they have set up will be fun and also a challange. I personally don't think that getting all Pokemon via transfer to complete the dex is good except for Pokemon you can't get otherwise. It goes along the issue of wether your lazy about it or not. Everyone else who wants it will have to do it too.

3. Personally, I don't know wether it is through age or loss of interest that your saying so many of us will quit. If it is through age, there is a whole new generation to come and pick up th torch. If it is through lack of interest, then I still see new people getting interested. There are however diehards who will never give up the game and still play the old games along with the new. They are not n00bs as you call them. In fact, assuming that the majority of people left will be n00bs is proposterous. It also would not mean they could not complete the Pokedex either.

4. I absoluty agree. In fact, I think that will come out inbetween fourth and fifth generation. The first reason I support this is, the plots already layied out. Second, they have figured out certain things, like impoving the day and night feture. Third, a lot of people will probably want to see it. Fourth, they did it for the original game. And fifth, this allows for them to have more time in coming up with Generation five.

5. Concidering that the way it is done seems to already have changed, why the big deal. And, there was the issue of trade backs back between first and second.

As for the systems no longer working. Please. One can still find an old RBY game that work. It all depends on how well you or the previous owner treated the game. It's like this for most games, though admitidly, as you do go back farther, it is harder to find a good one due to the fact that some people wear there games down.
 

pokefan90

<<Evil???
Mr.Latios, for the pokeBox thing, are you saying there won't be extra storring facilities for the 4th and 5th generation? ro that you cannot put GBA pokemon into the wii memory card?

as for those pokemon lovers that still play sinse RBY I am one of them and hope I still am over my twenty's like the serebii staff.
but to complete the pokedex with over 600pokemon in the future will get long and dragged out and hard for the new players in 2012 or something; especially if they dont have R/S/E/FR/LG/CLSS/XD.
 
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