Will you please?

[Riva]

Will everyone PLEASE stop saying Harley is a homo?! I for one don't like seeing captioned pictures of the anime saying he is and it's really getting to be old.

Sorry if I came off as rude, but this type of thing gets under my skin.

 

[Jonouchi]

How do you know he isn't?

 

[Riva]

I don't, but still, people still don't be needing to say it.

 

[Jonouchi]

It's not like anyone will even listen. There's some captions I don't like in there, but do you see me make a topic telling them to stop. Let them say what they want

 

[Riva]

My point is, it's a tired topic and I just wanted to say.

 

[CyberCubed]

Why bother not stating the truth? Saying that Harley prefers the same sex is just like saying that May has a curvy body. It's the truth.

 

[Yamato-san]

^what he said. And so long as they aren't making harsh, homophobic comments about it, I see no problem.

 

[Blackjack Gabbiani]

Wow, someone's a little bigot, aren't they?

 

[Riva]

How dare you, I'm no bigot!!! I just got sick and tired of everyone saying "Harley is gay", so there.

 

[Blackjack Gabbiani]

Mind telling us why?

And only a bigot uses phrases like "homo".

 

[Gravy]

...captioned pictures you say? Um, where exactly?

If you're talking about the picture caption thread, I don't see what you're complaining about because, not to be harsh, pretty much 85% of the captions in that thread consist of repetative drivel anyway

If you're on about signatures, I can't say I've noticed any stating so. And even so, its hardly as big a deal as you're making it out to be.

 

[Momoko Lover]

You're just wasting your time. One person can't change many people's feelings about an anime character or anyone for that matter.

 

[Riva]

I don't expect to. I am just saying. And I wanted to shorten the term because it seemed more polite than gay.

 

[Blackjack Gabbiani]

Uh-huh, and wound up doing the exact opposite.

You still have yet to say *why* you object.

 

[ChaosMage]

I read somewhere that Harley's mannerisms in the Japanese version include refering to males with a pronoun that only women and gay men use, referring to them as if they are females. Someone who knows Japanese can explain and understand better than me.

 

[Yamato-san]

no no, you got that mixed up. Harley's not referring to males in a feminine manner, he's referring to himself in a feminine manner. See, in English, our only forms of first-person (like "I" and "me") are indiscriminate of gender. In Japan, there are many ways of referring to yourself in first-person, even masculine and feminite ways (much like our third-persons are divided into stuff like "him" and "her"). Harley uses the first-person "atashi", a very feminite form. Aside from that, he also showcases his feminality by using the "wa" sentence particle to end several of his phrases.

 

[Alfonso]

Pokemon has never been a subtle anime. When they're trying to tell us something, they'll often by very obvious and cliched about it. If they show Harley using a camp homosexual stereotype, then they're telling us in their way that he's intended to be gay. This isn't one of those anime where it's subtle or revealed over a certain amount of time- It's quick and to the point so we 'get' what they're saying.

 

[PDL]

being gay is a part of what makes Harley so damn appealing! it breaks the mold and James no longer has to be considered the "gay" one...

 

[ハルカ and ゴンベ]

I Just love how the word "Homo" was being thrown around...Offensive much?

Anyway With what Cybercubed said It's just fact and when people say it it's like stating "Satoshi is a pokemon trainer"...=/

Anyways lets take the Homophobia down a notch...k? k.

 

[Chris]

Some of you are confusing feminine actions with being a homosexual. Way to stereotype, guys!

And since this is becoming abit of a flame war..