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World War III Imminent?

MustGetPlatinum

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Not this time - North Korea and Al-Qaeda are far more dangerous. Plus, Germany doesn't have a Versailles to worry about...
I'm not really worried about either. For one, Kim Jong Il will die soon. His sons may not be as out there as he is, or they may not be worshipped. As for Al Quaeda, US intelligence isn't as dumbassed as it was then. You don't just get a new passport without some background lookup. Which was probably the key point of the 9/11 attacks.
 

BigLutz

Banned
I'm not really worried about either. For one, Kim Jong Il will die soon. His sons may not be as out there as he is, or they may not be worshipped. As for Al Quaeda, US intelligence isn't as dumbassed as it was then. You don't just get a new passport without some background lookup. Which was probably the key point of the 9/11 attacks.

Wanna get real scared, Al Qaeda wont come through the airports again. As ABC News proved a few years back you can sneak a suitcase full of nuke material through the Mexican border and no one would notice. As far as the US and anyone else knows, Al Qaeda could be pushing enough nerve gas over the border right now to wipe out New York, or a couple of suit case nukes, and no one would know.

But walling off the Mexican Border is racist or something.
 

MustGetPlatinum

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Wanna get real scared, Al Qaeda wont come through the airports again. As ABC News proved a few years back you can sneak a suitcase full of nuke material through the Mexican border and no one would notice. As far as the US and anyone else knows, Al Qaeda could be pushing enough nerve gas over the border right now to wipe out New York, or a couple of suit case nukes, and no one would know.

But walling off the Mexican Border is racist or something.
Meh, I'm not particularly scared.
Mainly because nerve gas can't wipe out a city.
 

ccangelopearl1362

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Fox News Channel: U.S. Committed to New Approach for Western Hemisphere

There goes Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, I guess. While President Obama is preparing to head to Egypt, she’s exchanging warm words of encouragement among the member countries of the Organization of American States… and also figuring out what to do about Cuba. Incredibly, Nicaragua, Venezuela, and Bolivia want Cuba back in, and new Salvadoran President Mauricio Funes may become a new target for recruitment to Hugo Chavez’s agenda for the region. Mrs. Clinton may have an even bigger worry about her directly below this country -- south of Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and California, no less.:

Military.com: Joint Forces Warns of Mexico Collapse

Two countries the Joint Forces Command cited as being vitally important for consideration should they undergo “rapid and sudden collapse”. Mexico is one, and Pakistan is the other. We should have several incursions by the Taliban near Islamabad to prove that report as a collective starting point of sorts, and in the meantime, drug violence and corruption are corroding Mexico from within, and conditions there may be worse now than there were at the beginning of this year, during the release of that report. Of course, given Pakistan’s nuclear arsenal, that country’s transformation into a new headquarters for the likes of Al-Qaeda can only be nightmarish, and if the Congressional Research Service is correct, then those Pakistani nukes may have started even earlier than India’s nukes.:

Times of India: Pak’s nuke quest pre-dated India’s 1974 test: US report

We have believed that India’s 1974 nuke test led Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto to proclaim the need for a nuclear bomb for Pakistan -- and the Islamic world -- but as the CRS argues, there was a slightly different setback for Pakistan in the minds of that country’s leaders: the loss of East Pakistan after a war with India in 1971. Abdul-Qadeer Khan’s nuclear proliferation network will be clear from that point, so that an attack by Iran against Israel, a Taliban/Lashkar-e-Taiba/Al-Qaeda victory in Islamabad, and a new series of missile launches against South Korea, Japan, or both by North Korea constitute my three most likely World War III scenarios as of this last day of May 2009. Incredibly, June may heat up even more rapidly in East Asia should North Korea’s latest threat hold up.:

The Hindu: N. Korea threatens to attack S. Korean, U.S. warships

That’s right, folks: North Korea is threatening actual military strikes against actual American warships after testing those nukes and ballistic missiles this past week. I’m beginning to wonder if Kim Jong-Il and the jihadists are actually competing with each other to see who can start the conflict that begins World War III. They’re using the notion that they can do whatever they want to attack the imperialistic American Empire, but if it and its puppets, er, allies dare to defend themselves, then they will be destroyed. Anyone hearing a ticking clock is most certainly not alone.
 

~Magic Thunderbolt~

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Fox News Channel: U.S. Committed to New Approach for Western Hemisphere

There goes Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, I guess. While President Obama is preparing to head to Egypt, she’s exchanging warm words of encouragement among the member countries of the Organization of American States… and also figuring out what to do about Cuba. Incredibly, Nicaragua, Venezuela, and Bolivia want Cuba back in, and new Salvadoran President Mauricio Funes may become a new target for recruitment to Hugo Chavez’s agenda for the region. Mrs. Clinton may have an even bigger worry about her directly below this country -- south of Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and California, no less.:

Military.com: Joint Forces Warns of Mexico Collapse

Two countries the Joint Forces Command cited as being vitally important for consideration should they undergo “rapid and sudden collapse”. Mexico is one, and Pakistan is the other. We should have several incursions by the Taliban near Islamabad to prove that report as a collective starting point of sorts, and in the meantime, drug violence and corruption are corroding Mexico from within, and conditions there may be worse now than there were at the beginning of this year, during the release of that report. Of course, given Pakistan’s nuclear arsenal, that country’s transformation into a new headquarters for the likes of Al-Qaeda can only be nightmarish, and if the Congressional Research Service is correct, then those Pakistani nukes may have started even earlier than India’s nukes.:

Times of India: Pak’s nuke quest pre-dated India’s 1974 test: US report

We have believed that India’s 1974 nuke test led Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto to proclaim the need for a nuclear bomb for Pakistan -- and the Islamic world -- but as the CRS argues, there was a slightly different setback for Pakistan in the minds of that country’s leaders: the loss of East Pakistan after a war with India in 1971. Abdul-Qadeer Khan’s nuclear proliferation network will be clear from that point, so that an attack by Iran against Israel, a Taliban/Lashkar-e-Taiba/Al-Qaeda victory in Islamabad, and a new series of missile launches against South Korea, Japan, or both by North Korea constitute my three most likely World War III scenarios as of this last day of May 2009. Incredibly, June may heat up even more rapidly in East Asia should North Korea’s latest threat hold up.:

The Hindu: N. Korea threatens to attack S. Korean, U.S. warships

That’s right, folks: North Korea is threatening actual military strikes against actual American warships after testing those nukes and ballistic missiles this past week. I’m beginning to wonder if Kim Jong-Il and the jihadists are actually competing with each other to see who can start the conflict that begins World War III. They’re using the notion that they can do whatever they want to attack the imperialistic American Empire, but if it and its puppets, er, allies dare to defend themselves, then they will be destroyed. Anyone hearing a ticking clock is most certainly not alone.

Or they could be having an alliance of sorts - North Korea and Iran can provide easy nukes for the terrorists.

Oh, and North Korea will be known as the Mouse that Roared - and Will Bite.
 

ccangelopearl1362

Well-Known Member
Human Events: Caspar Weinberger, Jr.: Obama Reaches Out When He Needs to Reach Within
Middle East Media Research Institute: L. Azuri: In Lead-up to Mubarak's Visit to Washington, Egypt Attempts to Placate Coptic Diaspora

Well, today’s the first day of June 2009, and American President Barack Obama is about to walk -- or fly, if we want to go technical -- into an Islamic minefield, perhaps seeking to portray himself much more subserviently, er, apologetically than his predecessor. Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak has been cracking down on the Muslim Brotherhood, but at the same time, he hasn’t done too much in giving those Coptic Christians a dose of sincere liberty in Egypt’s political system. Obama might do much better in commending the work of Father Zakaria Botros in presenting Muslims with a chance to gain sincere spiritual freedom, such that American national and international initiatives can intertwine in defense of such an idea. Egypt and Saudi Arabia are even closer now than they once were to facing a nuclear Iran, and not surprisingly, Obama may wish to address that issue this Thursday, remembering that even though 20% of the world’s population is Islamic, the remaining 80%… is not. I would be happy to see Obama stick to explaining and defending the attributes that have made America an excellent global superpower in the world, from open markets to new technologies for cars. Speaking of cars, I am recalling a very, very hilarious commercial released by Nissan’s Israeli division this past August promoting fuel efficiency over the (violent) objections of Arab oil sheikhs.:

YouTube: Nissan: Israeli ad for Nissan Tiida
Townhall.com: Austin Hill: This “American Freedom Thing” Makes People Uncomfortable

If expanding liberty -- whether it’s religious, political, or economic -- can benefit everybody, then I can certainly support whatever Nissan and Israel intend to do in order to extend oil’s potential as an energy source, in addition to any attempts of our own to find other, less strategically vulnerable energy sources -- lessening the direct impact of World War III on the United States homeland itself. Yet, energy won’t necessarily be the only major financial issue influencing such a conflict, at least by itself.:

Terror Finance Blog: Rachel Ehrenfeld: Recession in Terrorism Finance?

From direct Saudi charities to Sharia finance, international Islamists are willing to bankroll any and every project they wish in order to impose a new global caliphate. Of course, they’ve also got criminal enterprises rolling around in their pockets, right under the detection capabilities of the United States Treasury Department. One can guess that this arrangement can’t last long before an all-out war breaks out, given HSBC and Barack Obama alike more than a few substantive reasons to hunker down and defend the West’s economic liberty from this financial jihad, among other likely components of a Third World War.
 

ccangelopearl1362

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Fox News Channel: Al-Qaeda Criticizes Obama's Upcoming Speech to Muslim World

Already? Well, I suppose that it took Ayman Al-Zawahiri long enough to lash out against Barack Obama in preparation for this new apology tour, despite what we’ve been hearing about these Coptic Christians. I’m assuming that Zawahiri wants Hosni Mubarak and the House of Saud overthrown, paving the way for new regimes controlled by… jihadists far more willing to unite against Israel and the United States and under Sharia. If American global leadership demands solid confidence in freedom rather than self-hatred, then these 10 apologies compiled by Nile Gardiner and Morgan Roach can only weaken this country and thereby threaten America’s allies around the world, making World War III that much likelier.:

Heritage Foundation: Nile Gardiner and Morgan Roach: Barack Obama's Top 10 Apologies: How the President Has Humiliated a Superpower

1. Apology to France and Europe ("America Has Shown Arrogance")
2. Apology to the Muslim World ("We Have Not Been Perfect")
3. Apology to the Summit of the Americas ("At Times We Sought to Dictate Our Terms")
4. Apology at the G-20 Summit of World Leaders ("Some Restoration of America's Standing in the World")
5. Apology for the War on Terror ("We Went off Course")
6. Apology for Guantanamo in France ("Sacrificing Your Values")
7. Apology before the Turkish Parliament ("Our Own Darker Periods in Our History")
8. Apology for U.S. Policy toward the Americas ("The United States Has Not Pursued and Sustained Engagement with Our Neighbors")
9. Apology for the Mistakes of the CIA ("Potentially We've Made Some Mistakes")
10. Apology for Guantanamo in Washington ("A Rallying Cry for Our Enemies")

Hmm… Dr. Gardiner and Mr. Roach must be referring to apologetic speeches rather than gestures on President Obama’s part, but the basic point shall be clear: Barack Obama is far too regretful about this country’s influence to successfully persuade the rest of the world that freedom is the way to go. Obama may not have much longer to at least begin turning his back on such self-flagellation, especially if North Korea test-launches its new intercontinental ballistic missile within the next few days. Alaska and Hawaii should be watching this quite closely, especially now that Kim Jong-Un looks to be ready to take the throne, so to speak, held by his father once Kim Jong-Il dies, so that North Korea’s challenge to the United States, violent and nonviolent, can continue.:

Fox News Channel: Official: Kim’s Youngest Son Apparent Successor in North Korea
Fox News Channel: Gates: North Korea Prepared to Launch Missile Capable of Hitting Alaska
Washington Times: N. Korea general tied to forged $100 bills

Making fake dollars, or launching real ballistic missiles? I’m curious to see how many “supernotes” O Kyuk-Ryol has successfully circulated to destabilize the global economy ever since he started this operation. The plot to this story is politically adventurous, if I may say so myself, with special stopovers in Manila, Pusan, and Las Vegas. I’ll be eager to see any banks and companies targeted for holding money set aside for North Korea’s missiles and nuclear weapons, among other nefarious projects initiated by Kim Jong-Il and/or his generals. North Korea’s Islamic clients will be all too happy to use North Korea’s ballistic technology for their own evil purposes, but one of these clients might be imitating the United States more than he or his political opponents would admit, and said client might be having problems with a different client – one right next door, no less.:

Times of London: President Ahmadinejad to face election rivals in live TV debates
Gulf Times: Al Azhar to launch Islamic TV channel

Right on time for Obama’s new speech? Al-Azhar University’s choice of words will be even more notable: “In the Age of Obama we realised it was time to look at new ways to deliver our message.”. Perhaps it will be natural to keep track of this new tour through the Middle East, especially if Obama decides to bow in front of Mubarak – or, even better, Al-Azhar Grand Sheikh Muhammad Sayyid Tantawi. That gesture of subservience can’t possibly promote freedom – and consequently, America’s interests – so that Qatari Emir Hamad bin Khalifa Al-Thani will be that much further along in allying with Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad… if he chooses to. As we stand, however, America’s military bases in that tiny emirate might be at even greater risk, as might any others across the Arabian Peninsula, despite any measures Al-Thani, Saudi Arabian King Abdullah bin Abdul-Aziz, and their fellow sheikhs will inevitably take to counter Iran’s emergence. It’s quite a picture to behold in that region of the world, and Obama might be up for some special advice from one Robert Spencer as he prepares for that big speech.:

American Thinker: Robert Spencer: The Speech Obama Should Give in Cairo
Weekly Standard: Christian Whiton: Checking the Enemy’s Ideology
Jerusalem Post: Qatar's mood swings: Pro-Iran or pro-West?

Countering Sharia supremacism will work in order to give Muslims and non-Muslims in the Middle East alike sincere equality under freedom, undoing the project that the Muslim Brotherhood, the House of Saud, the Islamic Revolutionary Guards, Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan, and the Organization of the Islamic Conference have separately been either imposing or attempting to impose wherever they go. Almost by definition, this fourteen-century project would collapse if genuine reciprocity were to prevail, utilizing the broadcasts of Father Zakaria Botros across the Middle East, but also coordinating the decisions of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, and Japanese Prime Minister Taro Aso toward protecting and defending their respective countries. If World War III really does come soon, then this global alliance will be vitally important to defending not just America, but also anyone still hungry for the freedom to think, create, dream, and act according to one’s own conscience. Muslims themselves may be that much more eager to reject the Islamists’ ideology in order to move forward and then import productive creativity from the West, Brazil, Japan, and elsewhere. Qatar’s preference for sitting on the fence in this Middle Eastern cold war may ultimately overwhelm it should that cold war start heating up. Such a metaphor may be appropriate considering what this month and the next two months are, and Mr. Spencer will have some backup from Ayaan Hirsi Ali in making an argument for a restoration of rights in Europe… even Greece.:

American Enterprise Institute: Ayaan Hirsi Ali: It's Time Lily-Livered Europe Stood Up to Muslim Bigots
American Thinker: Rick Moran: Muslim leaders warn Greece of riots over defaced Koran

Europe has debased itself even more frequently in front of the Islamic world, and yet, the patience of certain Europeans may be starting to run out, with one Geert Wilders of the Netherlands embodying this trend. As it happens, Israel, Egypt, and Turkey all have very easy access to the Mediterranean Sea – and Europe. If defaced Korans are a greater cause for perpetual outrage than vandalized synagogues and abused women, then the Islamists will continue to gain excuse after excuse, er, pretext after pretext in the name of choking freedom of speech until it dies. Can American President Barack Obama really fear liberty that thoroughly in order to even consider bowing and kowtowing to Islamic and Marxian tyrants around the world – even two days before the 20th anniversary of the Tiananmen Massacre? It would seem that this political junkie will have a very interesting couple of days ahead of him, bringing together the various arguments and points he has made these past few weeks and months. With regards to North Korea’s unholy alliance with Pakistan and Iran, one could decide to follow the other in taking advantage of Obama’s (almost) laughably deliberate demonstrations of weakness, sensing yet another opening within the next two days, then acting in order to bring World War III that much closer to us.
 

firelovindocker

Well-Known Member
the chances of world war 3 are very small
they'd need numerous massive attacks to start a war
and did you know that Al Queda planned to bomb the AFL grand final in 2006 ( thats 100000 people in the MCG) but we caught the terrorists
hahahha
 

ccangelopearl1362

Well-Known Member
Cybercast News Service: Ahmadinejad Wants U.S. to Apologize for Its Long-Ago Role in Iran Coup
United Press International: Iran commissions stealth submarine
Times of London: Royal Navy captures Somali pirates… and sets them free

So much for sloganeering in Cairo. American President Barack Hussein Obama has jetted off to Europe to commemorate D-Day tomorrow, and Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has already revealed a new hint of Islamic implacability… despite a certain lack of sympathy for the latest politician invoked by Ahmadinejad. According to him, the United States and Britain plotted to overthrow one Mohammad Mossadegh 46 years ago, and now, those two countries must atone for that coup… despite Bill Clinton’s attempt to do so already. Iran’s mullahs already think of Mossadegh as working with the Shah and betraying Islam, and they would prefer more preferences to the Hidden Imam -- as well as the person who assassinated Anwar Sadat. Now, with Iran reaching out to the Muslim Brotherhood, the “Muslim on the street”, so to speak, may be that much more susceptible to recruitment for the sake of Allah. It can’t help that Ali Khamenei has thrown his support to Ahmadinejad in Iran’s elections this upcoming Friday, continuing the course that Ahmadinejad began four years ago this upcoming summer, that Defense Minister Mostafa Mohammed Najjar is announcing a trio of new stealth submarines, continuing Iran’s preparations for a Middle Eastern shooting war, or that the Royal Navy just released nearly twelve jihadists off the coast of Somalia, continuing Britain’s lack of action against these new pirates, so Obama’s speech at Cairo University yesterday morning can only signal a new period of self-defeating dishonor, all to the cheers and applause of people irrevocably committed to the annihilation of Israel, Britain, and even America itself.:

Washington Times: Wesley Pruden: ‘Inner Muslim’ at work in Cairo
Weekly Standard: James O’Gara: Welcome to Cairo, Mr. President
Washington Post: Charles Krauthammer: The Settlements Myth

Already, Obama has insisted on the presence of a world order designed to elevate the United States to the position of global superpower… rather than events, such as World War II and the Cold War. He didn’t exactly mention terrorism, either, despite recognizing that Egypt’s Coptic Christians are being threatened. Instead, the focus was on Israel’s settlements in the “Palestinian territories”, without regard for past agreements that Israel was to retain some of them and compensate the Palestinian Arabs with its own land. The leading individuals of the Islamic world, from Amin Al-Husseini down to the Organization of the Islamic Conference, have systematically rejected Israel’s very existence, leading the Palestinian Arabs’ leaders to opt for war after war, and even now, they might just settle for waiting for Obama to hand Israel to them on a silver platter, thereby undoing Pax Americana’s Middle Eastern component almost nihilistically. The contrast to “the average Egyptian” can’t be any more striking. I can only marvel that even though the Egyptian general populace is convinced that we Americans actually spend our usual time “flushing Korans down toilets”, tends to hear more of Yusuf Al-Qaradawi and his sordid ilk than Hosni Mubarak’s advisors’ cynicism, they’re still willing to maintain their curiosity about visitors. Traveling rumors abound, such as rumors about a label for Coca-Cola essentially against Mohammed and Mecca and a new Israeli seat belt designed to make Arab men sterile, which leads me to recall a certain decree against Pokémon out of Saudi Arabia. I don’t recall hearing much of that decree nowadays, but it may be appropriate to get inside the Islamists’ minds, thinking as they think, and this time, I wish to add the very targets of their conspiratorial ways into my overall argument for freedom. I have settled around making the assumption that World War III will also be a war of ideas and consequently defending genuine optimism, innovation, and curiosity in the name of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, and I would be happy to see the Middle East take up those attributes and ideas for itself… just as former President George Walker Bush. Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner and United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-Moon, on the other hand, may be slightly behind in targeting global warming for initiatives in China and Darfur, of all places, despite what anyone else says about it.:

FrontPage Magazine: William Hawkins: Global Warming: The New Key to Our China Policy
Washington Post: Ban Ki-Moon: A Climate Culprit in Darfur

Not much in the way of genocidal ambitions by Sudan’s Omar Al-Bashir, is there? It may be no accident than the Arabian Peninsula is essentially a desert, and it may take more than mere economic development by itself to end Sudan’s regime. China has been more willing to turn its investments to its own advantage at the expense of the United States, leading to our current speculation about Chinese President Hu Jintao’s background role in World War III. If America’s banks and companies start opposing China’s movements into America’s economy, then an economic showdown across the Pacific Ocean will be more and more likely to commence, throwing China into even greater political turmoil. There could even be momentum from protesters keeping the voice of liberty alive in memory of the Tiananmen Massacre, most likely inspiring other dissidents around the world against their respective dictatorships, two of which could prepare to take down the United States without much bloodshed.:

Family Security Matters: Tom McLaughlin: Taking the Pulses of America’s Defenses

Taking out this country’s electrical grids would send the United States plummeting back into the Middle Ages, leaving Iran and North Korea wide open to begin rampaging across the Middle East and East Asia. Do we really want to shut down our missile defense programs when every vehicle, every appliance, every cell phone, every building would simply stop operating without that electricity after Iran detonated a nuclear missile 300 miles above, say, Kansas? It would be a literal onset of darkness across this country as World War III looms ever closer with each passing day.
 
Oh look, the OP was talking about the BNP gaining power and it just so happens that they got 2 seats last night in the european elections.

I have honestly lost what little faith I had in the British political system, the BNP do not allow non-white people to join the party for fucksake. <_<
 
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ccangelopearl1362

Well-Known Member
Hot Air: Ed Morrissey: Europe Veers Right
Pajamas Media: Andrew Ian Dodge: For Britain, These Are Interesting Times
American Thinker: Bruce Walker: The Collapsing Global Left

It may be bigger than – or at least different from – just the rise of this British National Party. The Labor Party has collapsed in local council elections all over Britain, and one of the political organizations than won elections in the Netherlands is most famously known as the party of… Geert Wilders. The turnout was low, so it may be more likely that the economic downturn produced a lot of disgruntlement among the general populace of that continent. However, a low turnout may not be enough to soothe the horror of Britain’s political establishment that a party that relies on proclamations of “white power” has managed to catapult itself into full view of that country’s political systems. In any case, I’d opine that Prime Minister Gordon Brown has suffered a political massacre in the past few days, and even now, David Cameron’s Tories have been developing a motion of no-confidence in Mr. Brown. Perhaps the rest of Europe will see a similar trend in the coming months as more and more people in Europe’s countries decide that they’ve had enough of their past civilizational cowardice. I’ll give America about three or four years to catch up with Europe, perhaps with Alaska Governor Sarah Palin leading the charge, and Governor Palin may also be getting some help right out of the Middle East, especially Lebanon and Israel.:

Cybercast News Service: Hezbollah, Allies Defeated in Lebanon Poll But Outlook Still Troubling
Cybercast News Service: Obama Gets Reality Check From Complex Mideast

It’s a very pleasant surprise – and, consequently, relief – that this March 14 Alliance scored a significant electoral triumph against Hezbollah and its minions, despite Iran and Syria’s attempts to slither into that tinier country and transform it into a platform for jihad against Israel. I won’t be surprised if Hassan Nasrallah authorizes some discreet attempts to sabotage the ensuing government in Beirut in order to wear America and its allies down over there. President Barack Obama and Vice-President Joe Biden may have an easier time enlisting Lebanon against Iran, if that should be what they wish to do, and Grand Ayatollah Mohammed Hussein Fadlallah, among other crazy clerics out of the Islamic world, can only remain all too eager to talk about the lack of change inherit in Obama’s affirmation that America’s bond with Israel is “unbreakable”. Fadlallah must not have gotten the memo about Obama’s demand that Israel halt all settlement construction around Jerusalem, including the area holding the Western Wall.:

American Thinker: Peggy Shapiro: Obama Demands Ethnic Cleansing as an Israeli Concession for Peace

No settlements, not even for “natural growth”. There can only be one possible purpose for such a decision, and whatever it may be – such as despicable, horrible, or anything similar to those two adjectives – it most certainly is not Israel-friendly. Yet, perhaps even more despicable than Israel’s annihilation by itself, the Palestinian Arabs would simply gain an incentive to turn on each other, thoroughly infected with rage… until that area transformed into a wasteland devoid of any life. The contrast with the people of Iran couldn’t be any more striking, despite life under the iron fist(s) of Supreme Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, and the Islamic Revolutionary Guards.:

YouTube: United Against Nuclear Iran: Security for All against Nuclear Iran

“We will extend a hand if you are willing to unclench your fist,” proclaimed President Obama during his inauguration. I’m not certain that Iran’s clenching its fist so much as pointing directly at the West as a signal to prepare to attack, but that could just be me talking. That commercial has been airing in the past few days, and the timing, I think, couldn’t be any better. I’ll be up for freezing Iran’s main banks and companies – and any outlets they’re trying to turn to in avoiding America’s global financial nets – so that the mullahs can watch as their bank accounts get sucked dry, down to a trickle or even nothing. No need to worry, though, for I will enjoy seeing a similar formula developed against North Korea for those nuclear and ballistic tests it conducted to “commemorate” America’s fallen soldiers, among other components of its challenge to the United States.:

Human Events: Robert Maginnis: Time’s Up for North Korea
Fox News Channel: N. Korea Warns of ‘Merciless’ Nuclear Offensive
Fox News Channel: Families Plead for Clemency for U.S. Reporters Sentenced to 12 Years Hard Labor
Times of London: Kim's No 1 son confirms succession of little brother Kim Jong Un

How far does Kim Jong-Un intend to go in following his father’s foul footsteps? According to Robert Maginnis, we are already at the point of last resort with North Korea, which has banned all ships from entering a certain area close to its western coastline. Time may be running out even more quickly than we expected should World War III begin on the Korean Peninsula, now that Kim Jong-Il has officially warned that he will use his nukes to counter any measures taken by East Asia’s major countries against it. I wouldn’t put it past either Kim to use those two journalists as bargaining chips for even more time for North Korea’s nukes… until the time to strike against the American Empire and its puppets, from the halls of Pyongyang’s palaces to the control rooms of Islamabad’s military intelligence facilities.:

Times of India: ISI maintains link with militant commanders, says Musharraf

One can assume that high-ranking jihad sympathizers in the Inter-Services Intelligence are eager to bide their time until President Asif Ali Zardari’s offensive against the Taliban weakens, opening a door to those Islamists inside Pakistan. Pervez Musharraf’s claims about Kashmir may go up in flames as Lashkar-e-Taiba consolidates its control in that region, waiting to take advantage of any battle that erupts either northeast or directly west of South Asia, then drag Pakistan and India into a nuclear nightmare that also engulfs the Korean Peninsula and the Middle East.
 

Genome

pro-SHARK WEEK
Perhaps the rest of Europe will see a similar trend in the coming months as more and more people in Europe’s countries decide that they’ve had enough of their past civilizational cowardice. I’ll give America about three or four years to catch up with Europe, perhaps with Alaska Governor Sarah Palin leading the charge, and Governor Palin may also be getting some help right out of the Middle East, especially Lebanon and Israel.:
None of the links you've provided explain how you came to this conclusion. It's rather un-you.
 

ccangelopearl1362

Well-Known Member
Civilizational confidence in the West’s case can mean greater trust in individual liberty, including the freedom to communicate… which will be vitally important in the wake of the following development in the crash of Air France Flight 447.:

Fox News Channel: Crash Probe: Passengers on Air France Jet Had Terror Links

Leave it to me to imagine a scenario in which the Islamists start downing airplanes over the Atlantic, whether by missiles launched from a submarine or bombs smuggled aboard the flight. These Islamists target France via jets similar to the one that crashed just off Brazil’s east coast, among other possible targets associated that country. Perhaps those two passenger jihadists really did blow up that plane intentionally, or whatever bomb they had successfully transported past security and were in the process of activating detonated prematurely, but I might be getting ahead of myself here. At the moment, we know from these investigators that they matched two names from Air France Flight 447’s passenger list with names on documents listing “radical Muslims”, as Sky News put it, considered to be dangerous to France. I won’t be surprised to see France, Italy, Greece, and Europe’s other major countries increase their counterterrorism alert levels as the main cause of trouble in the Middle East lines up for its own rigged “elections” -- with complaints from inside the inner circle, no less.:

Washington Post: Thomas Erdbrink: Ex-Iranian President Criticizes Ayatollah

Poor Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani… or not. He was present during that meeting authorizing the attack on that Argentine Jewish community center, and yes, he has voiced threats of nuclear retaliation against Israel if Israel were to attack Iran. One might imagine that Rafsanjani has already moved his billions outside Iran, despite accusations from Mahmoud Ahmadinejad that Rafsanjani has enriched himself at Iran’s expenses, but this political junkie will express curiosity about flows of money initiated by Rafsanjani and/or his associates toward, say, Hezbollah beyond that attack in Buenos Aires. Once World War III expands into -- or out of -- the Middle East, that money will be sinisterly useful in any attacks undertaken by Hezbollah or even the Quds Force against Israel, Europe, and of course, the United States. Fox News Channel didn’t choose to title its special Iran program Iran: The Ticking Bomb accidentally, and if Rafsanjani chooses to actually take matters into his own hands by ousting Khamenei, then I can sense a new power struggle no less secretive than the one in North Korea. Maybe that’s another point of trouble with tyrants: they’re always distrusting each other, terrified of losing their iron grip on power, so that eventually, their system collapses from all the rottenness, rage, and sheer hatred and misery within it. These Iranian protesters give hints of such a thoroughly corrupt regime, so the Islamic Revolutionary Guards in general can only be eager to continue their overall mission, from their repression of the very people seeking to bring genuine freedom into that country to their alliance with Ahmadinejad all the way to their confrontation with -- and deception of -- the United States and its allies.:

Fox News Channel: Iran's Hard-Line Guards Vow to Crush 'Velvet Revolution'
Times of London: Iran demonstrators aim to see off Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s ‘empire of lies’

The Guardian Council gives the green light for this election sham, so we can expect whoever wins, most likely Ahmadinejad, to toe the ayatollahs’ line, not to mention the IRG’s line. These “elections” unfold this Friday, despite the insistences of American President Barack Obama on continued “hope” and “change” with regards to the larger Islamic world. Mir-Hossein Mousavi’s challenge may ultimately fizzle out, leaving him on the sidelines if the mullahs feel like stirring up even more Middle Eastern mayhem, and they may only be copying their North Korean benefactor in shifting the blame for any start to World War III on America.:

Fox News Channel: N. Korea: U.S. Nuke Umbrella a Declaration of War
Fox News Channel: U.S. Envoy: No Intention to Invade North Korea

Let me see: North Korea threatens to use nuclear bombs against South Korea and Japan and also test-launch more missiles in the coming weeks, yet it accuses the United States of instigating this confrontation with an aim to topple Kim Jong-Il, as much as I might like to see that happen. Anyone seeing anything wrong with this picture will have my agreement, and these excoriations are getting to be disturbingly more frequent as the summer months of 2009 progress. Stephen Bosworth will have his work cut out for him, from coordinating with South Korea’s financial institutions to freeze North Korea’s bank accounts to attempting to enlist the United Nations Security Council in imposing yet more sanctions to… reviewing any files pertinent to those nuclear missiles still controlled by that despotic regime, but also those interceptors prepared to shoot said missiles down.:

Korea Times: ‘NK Raising Tension for Power Succession’
Korea Times: New Frigate to Carry US Weapons System

I’ll take Defense Minister Lee Sang-Hee at his word as he prepares his own country’s military units, but I can find the speed at which South Korea is declaring its willingness to defeat any Korean People’s Army incursions “on the spot” grimly breathtaking. Patrol boats, frigates, and destroyers are mobilizing as part of Lee’s instructions, and one of the frigates of the future will have a brand-spanking-new missile with which to shoot down any KPA fighter planes attempting to bombard South Korea’s most famous cities. South Korea’s military upgrades will be vital against its northern nemesis, and in the process, it can continue keeping the markets going across East Asia to provide a firm economic foundation for its defense of freedom overall. South Korea can welcome other markets that are no less stable and peaceful, including ones being set up in defiance of the Caudillo of Caracas himself.:

Investor’s Business Daily: Chavez’s War on Free Trade in Peru

Who knew that Peruvian President Alan Garcia could actually open up his country and pave the way for 9.8% GDP growth and 10% wage growth -- not to mention keep Peru clear of this current global downturn? Unfortunately, market democracy, or democratic capitalism, if you will, counters Hugo Chavez’s machinations quite nicely, and as a result, Chavez has resorted to indigenous warfare inside Peru’s populace. Alberto Pizango led this attempted rebellion, but he ended up taking refuge in Nicaragua, and now, we must resist Chavez’s whims even more eagerly and at least contain him before that evil clown takes his antics eastward. One can wonder who will have the real last laugh should World War III spread into South America: Hugo Chavez… or Ali Khamenei?
 
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tom-tom

Furret <3
its not gunna happen. it would be to risky with all the nukes. no country will be foolish enogh to send a nuke because they know what the consequences will be and if they set one off it will be a chain reaction, sending off tons of them. then the world will have very little inhabitants. also any country foolish enough to do this would just be dumb.
 

pokemonmasterhustler

Pokemon Master
one word paranoied, you're worest than me
 

Fused

Shun the nonbeliever
Well, after WWII, the US agreed to stay out of European affairs, or at least European wars, and vice versa. So unless multiple foreign countries that AREN'T EUROPEAN join together and fight against the US, there will be no WWIII. We have been fighting several countries right now (Iraq, Iran, Afgahnistan, Pakistan) and yet it isn't being called a world war.

Why?

A world war is defined as a war affecting the world's most powerful and biggest nations. Judging from that, the Cold War is your WWIII as several nations joined NATO to fight against the Warsaw Pact and several coutnries were being affected because of these alliances. Not to mention, there were a plethora of potential starts for a WWIII:

1. Berlin Blockade
2. Cuban Missile Crisis
3. Korean War
4. RDS-1
5. Suez Crisis
6. Berlin Crisis of 1961
7. Joe-4
8. Yom Kippur War/DEFCON 3
9. Norwegian Rocket Incident of 1995
10. Prisitna Airport Standoff in 1999

Those are merely 10 possible starts for a WWIII. if there was going to be one, it would have started by now. Of course, as I said, the Cold War could have been WWIII, or as Bush said, the war on terrorism could be WWIII. We can't exactly classify any war as a WWIII until after its over, in which the full examination of affliction can be calculated and classified as a type of war. for all we know, we could be fighting WWIII right now. Think of how many nations are dependant on Middle Eastern oil.
 

ccangelopearl1362

Well-Known Member
Times of London: Ahmadinejad claims victory after Iran’s polling stations are kept open
American Enterprise Institute: Ali Alfoneh: Iran’s Presidential Election: A Predictable Victory for Khamenei

Anyone expecting a new round of confrontations with Iran within the coming weeks? This “election” has concluded, and President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad may have just won another term. Supreme Ayatollah Ali Khamenei and his advisors and generals must be lying low in order to make certain elements of the West, er, Western Christendom hold out and consider rejoicing should it turn out that Mir-Hossein Mousavi has won. Turnout was high, but a lack of ballots at some provinces’ polling centers might only cement the ayatollahs’ manipulation of this system. Khamenei successfully intimidated former President Mohammed Khatami from implementing genuine reform into Iran’s power structure, and other candidates have dropped out who may have actually wanted to limit the power of the Guardian Council. Meanwhile, both Mousavi and Ahmadinejad have each found their respective supporters diluted among the other candidates, and despite Mousavi’s efforts to use text messages and e-mails to draw more support to him, the regime’s attempt to duplicate American-style elections may at best wear out, exposing Mousavi’s alliance with Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani and greater loyalty to the regime. Saudi Arabian King Abdullah bin Abdul-Aziz Al-Saud’s duplicity may be more… acknowledgeable, so to speak, on the opposite side on the Persian Gulf, leaving Iran’s ayatollahs to ponder their next move, which might come sooner than they expected should their North Korean benefactor test another nuclear bomb.:

Fox News Channel: North Korea Intends to Match U.N. Resolution With New Nuclear Test
Fox News Channel: South Korea Braces for 3rd Nuclear Test by North
Fox News Channel: U.S. Intelligence Confirms Kim Jong Il’s son to Inherit North Korean Dictatorship

That makes… how many nuclear/ballistic tests by Kim Jong-Il so far in recent weeks? Kim Jong-Un may become the most visible face of the North Korean regime, continuing his father’s tyranny over that half of the Korean Peninsula, and the generals of the Korean People’s Army will only be too happy to defy the United Nations even more in preparing that new nuke test and yet another ballistic missile launch, as first revealed by Fox News Channel. I can understand Fox News’ worries about compromising any American spying operations within that country, as well as the Central Intelligence Agency’s desire to brief top officials about such a matter. One of those top officials is the POTUS, in this case, Barack Obama, and unfortunately, Obama may find himself unpleasantly surprised at any reappearances of any missile components that disappeared from American intelligence officials’ tracking abilities. Between these disappearances and the acceleration of North Korea’s uranium and plutonium production, it would seem that events in East Asia have accelerated that much further, leaving South Korea -- and Japanese Foreign Minister Hirofumi Nakasone and Defense Minister Yasukazu Hamada -- that much more nervous. I imagine that Kim Jong-Un will be no less eager to continue the unholy alliance between North Korea, Pakistan, and Iran -- and through that last country, international jihadism as a worldwide movement.:

Weekly Standard: Roger Kaplan: Two Sudans Are Better Than One
Townhall.com: Cliff May: Addressing Genocide
FrontPage Magazine: Faith McDonnell: Hezbollah and Hamas: The Sudanese Connection

If World War III starts to consume Sudan, then I will credit Sudanese President Omar Al-Bashir for unleashing his exterminatory agenda on the tribes of Darfur and paving the way for such a brutal battle. Already have the jihadists gone to war against the British, but fortunately, the British beat them back, so that nowadays, Sudan is split between an Arab northern area -- headquartered at Khartoum, no doubt -- and a black southern area. Bashir has attempted to delay any attempts by South Sudan to secede during this time, and he can only continue his form of Sharia tyranny as long as the Organization of the Islamic Conference, Hezbollah, Hamas, Russia, and China are in his corner. Leaving the last two countries’ oil investments aside, there would be a natural alliance with others who want submission to Allah as an all-encompassing governmental system… whatever the human price. American President Barack Obama may find himself having to act alone should he target both Sudan and Iran in order to stop their separate genocidal ambitions, setting the stage for newer, freer versions of both those countries to emerge, something former President George Walker Bush and current Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu could easily welcome. Bashir will sound and act eerily like his Iranian counterpart in enlisting Hezbollah and Hamas to impose Sharia on the rest of Africa, however quickly or gradually he intends to do so, which can only leave freedom and peace to counter his totalitarian machinations as steadfastly as they would counter Khamenei’s. The conflict in Sudan may get to be more than just a humanitarian crisis soon enough, now that two of my favorite jihad organizations may be setting up shop there, and Obama’s use of “violent extremism” eight days ago in Cairo -- northward down the Nile River from Sudan -- can only delay a sufficient understanding of such a conflict.:

American Thinker: Richard Benkin: Obama’s Address to Muslims Misses the Point

I can only wonder how furious Obama will be once he starts wondering how far the jihadists have gone in rejecting his overtures and gone back to crushing anyone who stands in their way, whether it’s Jews, Christians, other Muslims… or Hindus, even Hindus in Bangladesh, directly east of India. Richard Benkin and Pamela Geller may be thoroughly ahead of Obama and his advisors in tracking personal stories from anyone caught in international jihadism’s clutches, including women and girls like either that girl in Bangladesh… or Aqsa Parvez.:

American Thinker: Pamela Geller: Honoring the Victims of Honor Killing

If it helps, I figure that of the ideologies I’ve investigated, political Islam is at least as thoroughly geared toward conquest as Soviet Marxism ever was, if not more so, but it would seem that certain individuals in Western Christendom, led by Ms. Geller and Robert Spencer, are starting to fight back. I will chuckle a bit in imagining the squirming being done by the Islamic Society of North America, among other Muslim Brotherhood front groups, as this setback to their infiltration onto this continent develop, and as for Soviet Marxism itself, well, Josef Stalin may be gone, but Vladimir Putin is in, seeking to extend Russia’s influence around its borders, starting with Eastern Europe.:

Weekly Standard: Cathy Young: Russia’s Sphere of Coercion
Weekly Standard: Stephen Schwartz: Stalin-Hitler Pact Redux

I wonder what’s going on inside that gigantic country, between its past conflict(s) with Turkey and its current frustration against the European Union. If Russians are afraid that the United States and its allies are attempting to destabilize it at this moment, then they’re also starting to demand greater control over Poland’s territory, and Turkey might -- and most likely will -- still be seeking to expand its own influence in the Balkans, not to mention the larger Islamic world. One might opine that Vladimir Putin will be better off targeting the jihadists in the long run, making World War III a civilizational clash rather than just an ideological one.
 

Zenotwapal

have a drink on me
If WWIII happened, it would be between:

China, North Korea, USA.

If we all don't get along, then yes.

very imminent.
 

ccangelopearl1362

Well-Known Member
Wall Street Journal: Mary Kissel: An Interview with South Korean President Lee Myung-Bak

South Korean President Lee Myung-Bak will have a firm perspective with him as he prepares to meet with American President Barack Obama next Tuesday. Lee is the first national leader to reject the negotiations being conducted between America, the two Koreas, Japan, China, and Russia, breaking with both his predecessors and even George Walker Bush, who launched those six-sided negotiations in the first place. It may just as well, for North Korea may in fact have not one, but two nuclear programs, one for plutonium, the other for uranium. Too often have China and Russia been willing to allow Kim Jong-Il to lash out against America and its allies, and not surprisingly, Lee might sound a little unhappy. He believes that declaring North Korea a state sponsor of terror again might not make much of a difference, but he has been willing to exclude North Korea until the other five nations can assemble a coherent message against it and bolster South Korea’s military and economic defenses, from rebuilding neglected spy networks across North Korea to negotiating free trade with India, Japan, and the United States to blasting North Korea’s human rights violations. Unfortunately, Lee may receive less help from Obama than we’d like… due to these spending sprees on the latter’s part.:

American Thinker: Lee Cary: International Debt Brings International Threat

One can guess that both Lee Cary and Lee Myung-Bak are rightly worried about nuclear terror should North Korea decide to ship any nuke components or actual nukes to Iran or Syria, but what’s to stop Barack Obama from kowtowing to, say, Hu Jintao in order to try to muster some new United Nations sanctions against Kim Jong-Il, assuming he’s still in charge nowadays? If that isn’t enough of a worry, then North Korea and Iran may actually be trying to outdo each other in provoking the United States, which would mean that it could only be a matter of time before either time bomb explodes.:

Weekly Standard: Stuart Koehl: Endgame in Korea?

Once Kim Jong-Il decides to actually order something like an all-out invasion of Seoul, he’s finished. The eastern part of North Korea is quite mountainous, making tanks, missile launchers, and other vehicles extremely difficult to maneuver, and with Seoul’s expansion into a megalopolis that stretches all the way to the De-Militarized Zone, city fighting would drain the Korean People’s Army of its energy and leave Pyongyang wide open to a joint American-South Korean counterattack. We can also attack his artillery sites with more advanced military technology, and now that South Korea is targeting Kim’s ability to proliferate his weapons of mass destruction, all the United States will need to do is install a comprehensive missile defense shield composed of Patriots against short-range ballistic missiles, the Theater Area High Altitude Air Defense System against medium-range missiles, and airborne lasers against any and all remaining missiles launched against us. If Barack Obama should get these components going, America can checkmate the North Korean regime and cut it off from its Islamic clients. The timing couldn’t be better since one of said clients may have just instigated an electoral coup yesterday.:

Wall Street Journal: Chip Cummins: Ahmadinejad Re-election a Blow to U.S.-Arab Allies
Wall Street Journal: Gina Chon: Iraqis Eye Election Drama

I already imagine the images to be compelling, but how much more alert will Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, Saudi Arabian King Abdullah bin Abdul-Aziz Al-Saud, and Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri Al-Maliki be as riots erupt across Tehran tonight, even into tomorrow or this upcoming week? The situation is ironic, to say the very least, given the House of Saud’s little alliance with the Wahhabis, but Ahmadinejad’s apocalyptic agenda may end up exposing Abdullah’s double game against Western Christendom -- and dealing a considerable blow to Obama’s attempted outreach to Islam. Iran’s economic movements into Iraq may leave Iraqi businessmen worried in the meantime, so that as more and more components of said agenda push forward, more and more people may start to come out against it, as well as the jihad ideology overall.:

Daniel Pipes: Rooting for Ahmadinejad
Hot Air: Ed Morrissey: Twin Cities Somalis protest against … CAIR?

When Somalis in Minnesota are protesting the Council on American-Islamic Relations’ attempt to shut them up in front of law enforcement regarding those missing members of their community, then one can smell a certain coerced collectivization of American Muslims from that organization, and the same might very well hold true for the larger Islamic world worldwide. The jihadists’ agenda is boundless, and they’re willing to use any means necessary and possible -- however dirty said methods may be -- to impose it around the world, from forcing a bloody end upon a romance between one young man and one young woman to targeting computer networks in the democratic republics of the world.:

Fox News Channel: Christian Man Raped, Murdered for Refusing to Convert to Islam, Family Says
Heritage Foundation: Steven P. Bucci: The Confluence of Cyber Crime and Terrorism

Come to think of it, I don’t envy Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari’s position, either. Pakistani Christians are poor, and the plight described by Rev. Haroon Bhatti -- expressed in offers of money and women to Christian men -- is institutionalized inside Pakistan’s own law system. Meanwhile, there’s nothing stopping Al-Qaeda, Russia, or China from assembling an army of hackers to take down cyberspace networks inside the United States and/or its allies, leaving us as defenseless as possible for any other terror or conventional attacks. They could also mobilize their separate propaganda machines to demoralize us and embolden anyone sympathetic to them and convert any cash they wish to send back and forth from real to virtual back to real. With cybersecurity integrated into America’s national defense, we will have a vital tool on our side as World War III approaches.
 
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