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Worried about the future of pokemon

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Divine_Light

Espeon will own all!
Here is my point why i'm worried about the future of pokemon;
1, In kanto and johto there was two "gym islands" cinnabar and cianwood but in hoenn there was dewford and mossdeep.
2, After the starter pokemon there is what i call "fur pokemon" which are flying and normal ie, pidgey, rattata, sentret, hoot hoot but in the 3rd gen there was zigzagoon but now they broke that tradition by adding poochyena.
3, In kanto and johto there was team rocket (1 evil team) but in hoenn there was team aqua and magma.
4, In kanto and johto there was water to the south and east but in hoenn, nothing.
5, Kanto and johto are conected but hoenn isn't again i say the tradition was broken.

There are many more, i'm worried whats your views?
 
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Divine_Light

Espeon will own all!
Latios said:
1, In kanto and johto there was two "gym islands" cinnabar and cianwood but in hoenn there was dewford and mossdeep.
How is this a problem?

2, After the starter pokemon there is what i call "fur pokemon" which are flying and normal ie, pidgey, rattata, sentret, hoot hoot but in the 3rd gen there was zigzagoon but now they broke that tradition by adding poochyena.
Taillow(? It's Subame) can be found after some point early enough in the game.

3, In kanto and johto there was team rocket (1 evil team) but in hoenn there was team aqua and magma.
You only fight one team per game, and the teams were used as a plot device for a more "intricate" story, rather than a random team doing random acts of evil (Team Rocket does seem to do that)

4, In kanto and johto there was water to the south and east but in hoenn, nothing.
How is this a problem?

5, Kanto and johto are conected but hoenn isn't again i say the tradition was broken.
And how is this a problem?
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Its the matter of it all, i'm just worried about the future of the pokemon games
 
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Ledian_X

Don Ledianni
He's just saying how is what you said problems with the games. They don't seem like real problems to me. No one's ever nitpicked over island gyms or whatever you're going on about. So, like LAtios said..What's the problem with those? Can you clarify?

Let's look at each question:

1, In kanto and johto there was two "gym islands" cinnabar and cianwood but in hoenn there was dewford and mossdeep.

Unless there was a tidal wave swallowing the islands I don't see that as a problem.

2, After the starter pokemon there is what i call "fur pokemon" which are flying and normal ie, pidgey, rattata, sentret, hoot hoot but in the 3rd gen there was zigzagoon but now they broke that tradition by adding poochyena.
Taillow(? It's Subame) can be found after some point early enough in the game.

Early pokemon to fill your dex with and use early on is a problem?

3, In kanto and johto there was team rocket (1 evil team) but in hoenn there was team aqua and magma.

Yeah so...your point? There's antagonists in almost every game out there.

4, In kanto and johto there was water to the south and east but in hoenn, nothing.


5, Kanto and johto are conected but hoenn isn't again i say the tradition was broken.

Geography is a problem? Explain.

See, your comments aren't making sense because you failed to provide detailed reasoning for your conclusions. Me, I just think you're worried over nothing. Now, if you were to say "We need a new formula." Then that's something else.


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Blue Blood

Meh
1, In kanto and johto there was two "gym islands" cinnabar and cianwood but in hoenn there was dewford and mossdeep.
2 "gym islands". What difference does that make?

2, After the starter pokemon there is what i call "fur pokemon" which are flying and normal ie, pidgey, rattata, sentret, hoot hoot but in the 3rd gen there was zigzagoon but now they broke that tradition by adding poochyena.
Poochyena, Wingull, Ralts ect are there early on so that there can be a little more variety in there. The Pokémon there all fit in the game fine. If there were wild dragons near the beggining, then that would be annoying. But there isn't. And there won't be. It only adds a little more variety early on in the games.

3, In kanto and johto there was team rocket (1 evil team) but in hoenn there was team aqua and magma.
Well done for noticing this!!! Now if you can tell me why this is a problem, you get a cookie!

4, In kanto and johto there was water to the south and east but in hoenn, nothing.
In R/S/E there was water in the south (between Petalburg, Dewford and Slateport) and plenty in the east. Hoenn has the most water, hence being called a swimming pool by some fans.

5, Kanto and johto are conected but hoenn isn't again i say the tradition was broken.
The problem here... Darn! I just can't think of one.

Difference is good i games. If every Sonic game played just like Sonic 1, 2, 3 & K, being a hardcore fan I'd be rather bored by now. When difference are added to games, they can be for the better or the worse. Running around and jumping on enemies in Sonic is fun, but adding big twists like hoverboards, or minor twists such as upgrades all adds flavour. No difference = a dry and bitter series.
 
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sin

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So if it were up to you there would be no new themes/locations/or pokemon and everything would stay the same. That would make for a real boring game real quick. Now thats when you need to worry about the future of pokemon.
 
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Akerin

Ready for a vacation
I'm all for keeping tradition when it comes to graphics of the (handheld) Pokemon games, but a lot of the things you mentioned don't seem so bad.

1, In kanto and johto there was two "gym islands" cinnabar and cianwood but in hoenn there was dewford and mossdeep.
Easy explination: Hoenn has more water than the other reigons. Infact, if I'm not mistaken isn't it completely surrounded by water, while the Johto and Kanto were connected by Mt. Silver?

2, After the starter pokemon there is what i call "fur pokemon" which are flying and normal ie, pidgey, rattata, sentret, hoot hoot but in the 3rd gen there was zigzagoon but now they broke that tradition by adding poochyena.
I don't see how this is going to bring Pokemon down.. :/

3, In kanto and johto there was team rocket (1 evil team) but in hoenn there was team aqua and magma.
I'd say Team Aqua and Magma were a good addition. Unlike Team Rocket, they had a reason for doing the things they did. Personally, I thought that plot made the game a lot more interesting.

4, In kanto and johto there was water to the south and east but in hoenn, nothing.
I... don't really understand this one. In Hoenn the largest body of water did take over the East and South. In the other reigons the water took over the South and West part of the map. So they changed the layout. Big deal. Of course a new land is going to look different. :B

5, Kanto and johto are conected but hoenn isn't again i say the tradition was broken.
There's a reason for that. If the reigons were connected you'd have a game with 3 different reigons in it. I really don't think that the game could handle such a thing. But if you want to know, Johto and Kanto weren't completely forgotten in the 3rd generation. One of the random characters at an early point in the game (I'm not sure which town) mentions Norman bringing his family over from Johto. (Or was it Kanto? Sorry. I haven't played Emerald in a while.. I've been more interested in FR)

The only thing that would kill Pokemon is if everything remained exactly the same as it was in Kanto throughout all four generations. None of us know what to expect in D/P... We can only hope that the stuff we'd like to see will be there, and prepare ourselves for any kind of dissappointment Gamefreak may give us.

If you really don't like change I'd say go ahead and stick with the old games. No one HAS to accept change when it comes to such a thing... I have a few friends who hate every Pokemon past the first generation, and while they still love the Kanto Pokemon, all this time the only games they've ever played are the original Red and Blue versions.
 
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◘Ins0mnIac◘

Supreme Overlord
So what? You want it to be the same boring style every time? I think this is good for the game and I don't think they'll take it out of hand.
 
Eszett

Eszett

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Call me a broken record but I wish to issue my sentiments...

1, In kanto and johto there was two "gym islands" cinnabar and cianwood but in hoenn there was dewford and mossdeep.

The layout of the map is one of the last things that would come to my mind if I were to foresee the impending doom of the franchise. Essentially, that doesn't mean squat.

2, After the starter pokemon there is what i call "fur pokemon" which are flying and normal ie, pidgey, rattata, sentret, hoot hoot but in the 3rd gen there was zigzagoon but now they broke that tradition by adding poochyena.

So you seem to assert that Poochyena is more noticeable as neither a Flying nor Normal type, but have you ignored the availability of Geodude before the very first gym in G/S/C? the ability to obtain Pikachu before the first gym in the original Red, Green, and Blue? Just because Poochyena sticks out more to you doesn't mean there weren't anomalies in past games.

3, In kanto and johto there was team rocket (1 evil team) but in hoenn there was team aqua and magma.

And this is related to the decadence of the games...how? I don't see how this portends the death of the franchise.

4, In kanto and johto there was water to the south and east but in hoenn, nothing.

Again, I don't see how this is related to the decadence of the games. Moreover, Hoenn is completely surrounded by water, meaning that there is water to the south and east. Come again, what were you arguing? ;[

5, Kanto and johto are conected but hoenn isn't again i say the tradition was broken.

Certain traditions do and should break every once in a while to prevent the game from getting stale; that was one such tradition.

In summation, you seem to me to be one of those purists who wants the game to revert to the style of the original games and is generally fearful of any progressive innovation involving the franchise. Moreover, making assertions based on the third generation of the games doesn't really hold weight when you carry these over to the fourth generation, about whose games we have hardly any info.
 
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