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Worst Deus Ex Machina EVER (That is not "The Horn!" or Thunder Armor) *SPOILERS*

Discussion in 'Animé Polls' started by moneylesswario, Jan 29, 2013.

  1. moneylesswario

    moneylesswario Shudo's Powerhouses

    Most Badly Written Event EVER (That is not "The Horn!" or Thunder Armor) *SPOILERS*

    I don't really consider "The Horn" a DEM, but I know many others do.

    Other than Thunder Armor and "The Horn", what's the worst DEM to you (be it a Pokemon, match, etc.)? For me, it's a tie between Trip vs Ash (all), May's baby Squirtle, Tobias's Darkrai vs Torkoal to an extent (Torkoal can take on Registeel but gets beat in one hit by Darkrai? Come on now.), and Skitty vs Dusclops.

    Last edited: Jan 30, 2013
  2. LizardonX

    LizardonX Banned

    May in general
    Starter boost abilities
    oshawott scalchop
  3. moneylesswario

    moneylesswario Shudo's Powerhouses

    I'm not so sure about the last two (at least compared to other crap in this series), but I agree on the first one.
  4. An00bis

    An00bis Wicked Witch

    Nothing has or (hopefully) ever will offend me as much as Thunder Armor.

    I guess if I had to pick something ... Pikachu VS Nosepass in Hoenn was pretty terribly written.
  5. Caseydia

    Caseydia Ace Trainer

    I was never bothered by "the horn or any of those moves so much as some others were. Atleast Ash came up with those tactics himself even though they were alittle weird. It showed us that he was a clever thinker when times got tough.
  6. Spin Attaxx

    Spin Attaxx 2012-2013

    Definetly the "Pokémon tears can resurrect the dead" crap in M01. No, the legend the lady speaks of about tears restoring the world WASN'T in the original version. So it came completely out of nowhere. I don't care if they can breath fire or create worlds, POKÉMON ARE NOT JESUS.

    When Rhyhorn can be hurt by Thunderbolt in the games, then I'll take that "clever-thinking" statement of yours seriously.
  7. AgentPierce

    AgentPierce Mad science FTW!

    Cameron not being disqualified after he reveals he only brought 5 Pokemon to a full battle. And then his Rilou evolving into Lucario.
  8. Blessed

    Blessed Well-Known Member

    Ash's Piikachu and May are deus ex machinas created by the writers to get them out of actually having to write decent stories.
  9. moneylesswario

    moneylesswario Shudo's Powerhouses

    That's another one I was going to list, but for some reason, forgot. I know he was fighting with a handicap, but aren't league rules supposed to be strict? What makes this even worse is that he STILL ended up winning...this was arguably worse than Tobias.
  10. Pokemaniac24

    Pokemaniac24 Banned

    What? How so?
  11. moneylesswario

    moneylesswario Shudo's Powerhouses

    I'm not Angel~, but:

    #1: Thunder Armor (though I excluded it as an option)
    #2: Look at May's contest matches (Skitty vs Dusclops, anything involving Squirtle, etc.)
    #3: Electric attacks hit ground types.

    I think that's what she meant.
    Last edited: Jan 29, 2013
  12. Lorde

    Lorde Banned

    Half of Charizard's victories, especially his victory over Articuno. Cameron's victories. Cyndaquil's victories in Johto. Oh, and of course the whole Thunder Armor thing.
  13. Pokemaniac24

    Pokemaniac24 Banned

    Oh, I see. I thought she was trying to say that because Pikachu and May are on the anime, the anime could get away with writing not so good stories but yeah, if we are talking about their roles in battles and contests, I could see what she means even though I haven't seen AG in awhile.
  14. dman_dustin

    dman_dustin Well-Known Member

    I honestly couldn't care less, what the worst DEM was, since that entire subject is completely subjective, and biased, nothing really annoys me in terms of "DEM"

    I'm only annoyed by the layout of a battle, not some minor situation that results in a win for someone.

    But fine if I had to choose one, nothing is more inexcusable than Pikachu vs Serperior in the league.

    Pikachu should've been knocked out, and was knocked out, but Ash's words somehow brought it back into the battle.

    I don't have a problem with Ash beating Serperior with Pikachu, but that entire battle badly written on both sides.
  15. 1rkhachatryan

    1rkhachatryan Call me Robert guys

    This, we should of been watching Pikachu's funeral the next episode lol. I mean the thing was literally strangled to death and then 1 hit KO'd his opponent -_-....
  16. Pikafleg

    Pikafleg Twenty-Six!

    I totally agree that the "thunder armor" DEM was atrocious and offensive. I really can't believe they did that....for crying out loud find ANY other way (ok perhaps not "any" lol) for pikachu and swellow to win! And because it annoys me so much, I will explain it for those of you who may be confused at what we are talking about- in ash's battle against tate and liza with his pikachu and swellow, he had pikachu summon a thunder from the sky to hit itself and swellow (that's not the crazy part btw), and that gave itself, and more crazily swellow, a golden coating on their bodies that made them more powerful and stuff, instead of doing damage (particularly to swellow).

    And while I'm at it, "the horn" is when in ash's battle against blaine a thunderbolt from pikachu aimed at rhydon's horn allowed it to very powerfully effect the GROUND type rhydon and defeat it.
  17. 1rkhachatryan

    1rkhachatryan Call me Robert guys

    Guts was treated differently back then and we knew from the very beginning that Swellow can tank electric attacks, even as a Taillow. Thunder Armor makes sense because Swellow has guts, plain and simple. While the gold coloring was over the top, the actual concept of Thunder Armor has justification.
  18. moneylesswario

    moneylesswario Shudo's Powerhouses

    Why they didn't just use Wattson's gym to show off Guts then? Not only would it have made more sense, but it might have been more believable, too.
  19. 1rkhachatryan

    1rkhachatryan Call me Robert guys

    Cuz Pikachu needed more DEM wins, duh.
  20. JennaJayfeather

    JennaJayfeather jflkdjkfgjafgaf

    ._. I found Thunder Armor cool.

    I don't really think there are any big DEMs in Pokemon...it's not like it has a strong plot. ^^; I'm trying to think in some movies but I'm drawing blank.

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