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Wrong Pokémon Information: Kids Magazine shoots themselves in Foot.

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Alphonse Elric

That's My Rule!!!
Wrong Pokémon Information: Kids Magazine shoots themselves in Foot.

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Okay. Recently my friend bought this Kids Magazine from a foreign country. I noticed it had a bit of Information on Pokémon. When I turned to the page, I was honestly apalled at the fact that most of the Information in that Magazine was faulty, if not entirely stupid. I've done the honors of taking pictures of the mistakes and posting them in the links below. Some may be blurry.

Faulty Information #1:

It says "Pikachu is the WEAPON of choice for MASTER TRAINER Ash Ketchum".

First of all, the last time I checked, Pokémon were living, breathing, breeding creatures who lived in harmony with humans in the Pokémon World, not mindless fighting machines. To call a Pokémon a weapon is like calling a soldier a piece of armor. Sure, Pokémon battle, but that doesn't mean someone can just go around telling averybody that they're mindless fighting machines.

Second, it says that Ash is a Master Trainer. A Master Trainer is someone who has won through all of the Pokémon Leagues, has won in a Major Battling Facility, or at least has caught all the Pokémon and has recieved a Pokémon Diploma. Now, I'm not berating Ash, I'm not saying "Animé = Games, I'm just pointing out that someone who has only gotten through Round 1 in the Kanto League can't really be classified as a "Master", something the author of that article failed to notice.

Faulty Information #2:

It says "Be careful though - once an Eevee evolves, you can't change it back to its original form!"

I laugh at this. Obviously, the author hasn't heard of Common Sense or Breeding.

Everybody knows that once a particular Pokémon evolves, it can't change back (Unless you use a cheat code.). You can stop the Pokémon from evolving by means of an Everstone, and that's that.

And as for Breeding, though it isn't actually a means of Devolution, per sé, it does count, seeing as when you breed an Umbreon with a Ditto, you'll get another Eevee. Whoever wrote that article says "Eevee in its original form are very rare". Right. Tell that to all the Eevee Breeders. :/

Faulty Information #3:

It says "We've chosen the best 6 Pokémon out of a choice of 395!"

The Fire Red, Leaf Green, Sapphire, Emerald, and Ruby PokéDex only lists of to #386, Deoxys. Sure, they must have added Lucario, Mime Jr, Weavile, Bonsly, Muchlax, Perap, Bouysel, Tamanta and Manaphy, but since very little information is known about some of them as of now, I don't think it's fair for someone to say that the Fourth Generation Pokémon can be added to the choices of "The Six Best Pokémon", when their stats and abilities, along with their evolutions, haven't been fully revealed yet.

And I don't think Pokémon is even that popular in that country too...

So what do you, the Pokémon Society, think of this?

Should Pokémon be classified as weapons?

Is Ash really a Pokémon Master, even if he hasn't "caught them all"?

Should the Fourth Generation Pokémon be immediately included in the Main PokéDex even if very little information about them is known?

Discuss.
 
octoboy

octoboy

I Crush Everything
They probably said that because pokemon seem to be considered weapons in the Anime. They hardly count as characters.
 
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Alphonse Elric

That's My Rule!!!
Freckles said:
I think weapons isn't the right term, rather they should call them friends...

Making a living (although fictional) thing called weapon is enslaving them. And in the Anime, Ash does not treat pokemon as slaves, but rather companions.
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Exactly!

Yet the author said that "Pikachu is the WEAPON OF CHOICE of Master Trainer Ash Ketchum". I honestly wonder why that person described Pokémon as weapons, but I just don't think it's right. Sure, in the games, they're just Flash-Animated Pixels who tick on a Game Code. In the Animé, they're animated drawings. But that doesn't mean they're mindless fighting machines, even if they are just fictional creatures.

Open for Refuttals.
 
Dramatic Melody

Dramatic Melody

mud?
Phoenix Wright said:
Exactly!

Yet the author said that "Pikachu is the WEAPON OF CHOICE of Master Trainer Ash Ketchum". I honestly wonder why that person described Pokémon as weapons, but I just don't think it's right. Sure, in the games, they're just Flash-Animated Pixels who tick on a Game Code. In the Animé, they're animated drawings. But that doesn't mean they're mindless fighting machines, even if they are just fictional creatures.

Open for Refuttals.
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They should also know that Pokemon aren't just normal measley pets, not just those mindless little creatures. They have a very important part in the Anime, Games and Movies, and calling them "weapons", "tools" and the like is an insultation.

I like your explanation though :D
 
octoboy

octoboy

I Crush Everything
I'm telling ya it's because trainers now forget that their pokemon are alive and just leave them in balls.
 
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Blaze Dragon

T3h Blazing Ranger!
Hmph, how idiots. Pokemon aren´t weapons, they are friends (fictionally, and still, how can we use them as weapons if they are only pixels?). Ash isn´t a Master Trainer, more like a Complete Loser. Eevees are rare in the games (you only get one, then you have to breed). So, in my opinion, that information is completely false, except the Eevee rare thing
 
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Pkm Trainer_Dewgong

Sillent Watcher
God! What this guy ate *or drunk, smelled...* when he wrote this?

So, Pokémon name is the name of a bunch of weapons.
He probably doesn't know the meaning of "weapons", or, is just more one idiot in the world.

Oh, and if Ash is a master, I'm the mom of Shakespeare!!!
 
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AJ Flibble

Emohawk
Should Pokémon be classified as weapons?

Err... nope.

Is Ash really a Pokémon Master, even if he hasn't "caught them all"?

No, although being a Pokemon Master doesn't necessarily mean catching them all.

Should the Fourth Generation Pokémon be immediately included in the Main PokéDex even if very little information about them is known?

No, leave it until al of D/P's Pokemon are revealed and then there will be a dex.

lol at that magazine. So flawed.
 
The Great Butler

The Great Butler

Hush, keep it down
Weapons is a term that can apply under certain situations. Take Butch and Cassidy when they used Prof. Nanba's Rage Control device on their Houndour and Hitmontop, or Dr. Yung with his Mirage Pokémon. They use their Pokémon to perform evil deeds and harm others, therefore they could be called weapons. But with a trainer who loves his Pokémon above all else like Ash, it doesn't apply at all.
 
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Agustus

Well-Known Member
Wait....

How is a fictious animal, (unless it's a Dinozord,) a weapon? Unless otherwise stated, (like The Great Butler said,) a Pokémon is not a weapon.
 
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Raunchy_fad

Ooh, maaaan!
Ya know, I think it would be a little more absurd if this info was in an official Pokémon magazine. Seeing as this is in a seemingly anonymous Kid's magazine from a diffrent country no less, why does it really matter? Besides, the writers of the magazine probably don't really care... it was a small article, after all, wasn't it? It's not like an author of a non-pokémon children's magazine would go do some thorough research on pokémon of all things.
As for the Eevee thing, they're right, you can't devolve them. And they're also right- it is rare. Screw breeding, technically they only give out one, making it "rare".
And sure they can cound the Diamond/Pearl Pokémon. They exist, don't they? Unless we've all been misinformed. Haha, doubt it.

Heeeey, jeez, you guys, way to overreact. :)
 
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BasiltheDragon

Banned
If Ash is a 'Master Trainer', then I love Legendaries.

Um, nope.
 
A

Alphonse Elric

That's My Rule!!!
Volteon said:
lol, complete loser...

Which country is this magazine from?
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The Philippine Islands, thus the faulty information. :/

Raunchy_fad said:
Ya know, I think it would be a little more absurd if this info was in an official Pokémon magazine. Seeing as this is in a seemingly anonymous Kid's magazine from a diffrent country no less, why does it really matter? Besides, the writers of the magazine probably don't really care... it was a small article, after all, wasn't it? It's not like an author of a non-pokémon children's magazine would go do some thorough research on pokémon of all things.
As for the Eevee thing, they're right, you can't devolve them. And they're also right- it is rare. Screw breeding, technically they only give out one, making it "rare".
And sure they can cound the Diamond/Pearl Pokémon. They exist, don't they? Unless we've all been misinformed. Haha, doubt it.

Heeeey, jeez, you guys, way to overreact.
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Yeah.

In that country that magazine IS the main Pokémon source. :/

I agree with your theory on the Fourth Generation. Indeed, they do exist. But the said article was about some sort of "Pokémon Pet Show", and the results of the Best Six not only came from their appearances and attacks, but also their stats. Since we have no pulseworth's of a damn idea what the stats of some D/P Pokémon are, I think it's biased for the author to include Pokémon with unknown stats in a magazine contest with other Pokémon that do have good stats.

Plus I also find it biased that all the winners, the "Best Six Pokémon", were Ponyta, Eevee, Mew, Charmander, Pikachu, and Vulpix, who all happen to be from Kanto. :/
 
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Raunchy_fad

Ooh, maaaan!
So this Pilipino magazine is the main Pokémon sourse, eeeeeh? Well, if that's the case, it shouldn't matter much, I mean, if it's only one article, and there isn't any other sufficient Pokémon information, then, the whole Pokémon fad shouldn't be very popular. Some kid'll read the article, maybe be interested in it for a little bit, but if there's no other Pokémon media to back it up, the kid'll just forget about it, no harm done.
Stats... was the article all about stats? I don't think stats was the main subject of the article, was it? For all I know the magazine people don't care about stats, like, at all. They doubt kids would, either, I mean, when I was six and had my Pokémon Red, I didn't even know there were stats. I was all, ''Why do those stupid numbers keep popping up whenever my blastoise goes up a level?" Then I forgot about them, 'cos I didn't really care. Even now I don't really care, so I doubt some Pokémon deprived foreign kid will. And who knows? Maybe the writers thought that a base stat of 40 was high, or something. Or maybe they just really, REALLY liked these six Pokémon, and thought the kids would, too.
... Ya know, just 'cos D/P pokes ain't got stats doesn't mean you shouldn't include them, man. They were created, man, they should be included. And it's not like the article goes into full detail about the new, exciting D/P Pokémon, does it?

This topic's getting me all fired up for no reason. I'm gonna eat breakfast, jeeeez.
 
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