xy's corrina-lucario arc took everything away from everyone and everyone away from everything**** the Alola League and WorldAshKetchumDay forever. I hate SM and the Alola League because he shouldn’t of won in a shitty art style and acting like a five year old.
SM took everything away from me
i know, was riffin.I don't know. Just stated what other people said about XY overall that time, not only about Satoshi.
If you ask me after watching XY, I'd say that "maturity" is kinda overrated? Hence my quotes. Yeah, the art style and the songs were beautiful, but beautiful and mature isn't the same thing. You want a real mature plot? Talk about political, social or ethical issues. (The villiain plot could have some of this, but no more than other seasons, as I can recall.)
The depression arc and the fighting against the Pokégirl isn't really something unseen before for Satoshi, so I wouldn't say that's OOC, but neither that's a mature plot.
JN is getting hype because ash is experiencing unprecendented success and people think he might climb the mountain. Doubt anyone bar for hard-core fans care about a misty cameo.Unpopular opinion, but I think that it was wonderful that XY/Z was self contained. It didnt rely on nostalgia to get massive amount of hype.
For example, JN got most of its hype by having old character cameos...XY/Z managed to do it without any.
think this is a weakness of s and m to an extent. Ash's "freinds" basically rode "with ash" to success in fields that don't neccesarily make sense for them. Frankly, all of ash's friends working together to get into the final tournament undermines the success they were afforded. No longer a matter of merit or a product of what these characters have done but of "being ash's friend". In-universe it's odd there's no sort of regulation regarding that, out-of-universe it's basically cheatingThe one bonus I see, even for those who hate Ash, is that said series have also been inclined to give the other protagonists similar perks to make the plot flow seem more organic and less like Ash is super endowed. Ash opened those floodgates for several characters, not just himself.
Ash got the regional gimmick, they give it to Kiawe first to establish it, then let the other companions get it.
Ash got an Ultra Beast, Gladion/Lillie later get one.
Ash got a mythical, Gladion and Mallow get one first with Lillie and Goh following later.
Ash became Champion, so free game to make Iris one too, with several other companions also getting some culmination in their goals too.
XY stands out because it's the start of Ash getting special treatment, but none of the other companions get in on it (granted AshGreninja is part compensation for Ash never getting Mega Evolution).
This arc was terrible. I felt bad for Serena because she was neglected the most during this arc for some obnoxious gym leader and her mega shillcarioxy's corrina-lucario arc took everything away from everyone and everyone away from everything
you and jane owe us everything forever
That part. You cannot escape the frog and amour getting "retconned", Alain, the Kalos loss and Serena when nobody was talking about any of them/that.I'm getting tired of it, Serena, amourshipping, XY Ash, and Greninja/Ash-Greninja getting constantly brought up in almost every thread in one way or another tbh.
Quite ironic when most of the times you are the one bringing it up, granted its for the sake of hating on it but that makes it even worse because this certainly adds nothing to the discussion, as someone who has not been here for years, i am seriously amazed you have been doing this for so many years.I'm getting tired of it, Serena, amourshipping, XY Ash, and Greninja/Ash-Greninja getting constantly brought up in almost every thread in one way or another tbh.
serena's entire character arc is more or less just an absurdly stretched version of the "you're following me, no you're following me" exchange between ash and iris in episode 3 of B and W. In other wordsOut of curiosity what makes BW your second favorite? It's pretty different from XY as a whole
Style over Substance