Yet another curious question (concerning breeding/IV's)

[Lord Scalgon]

Trying to get back to breeding for perfect IV's, since I never really got the hang of it, but anyway...

Correct me if I'm wrong, but let's say...you breed a Ditto and a Metagross. A Ditto has a flawless speed IV and a Metagross has an outstanding attack IV. But once you breed them, you get a Beldum with a flawless speed IV and an outstanding attack IV, is that correct?

(May be a stupid question to some people, but whatever.)

 

[ShinyManafi]

When you breed, the newborn gets one additional IV added to its stats, if thats what you mean

 

[Lord Scalgon]

Oh, so no wonder people say it takes around 60 eggs to hatch a poke with a wonderfully outstanding ability. It's time-consuming, I know, but doesn't it take about a few hours to hatch a poke with perfect IV's?

 

[ShinyManafi]

If you breed two pokemon together with good IVs, then it won't be long before you get something with outstanding Ivs

 

[Emerald master]

Of course it does,while breeding for poliwag i watched a 2,5 hour film almost to the end

 

[Lord Scalgon]

Hm...maybe I should try that...my Beldum is 'impressive in ability', with outstanding attack IV, but I gotta catch a Ditto with a flawless speed IV. Oh well.

 

[Volteon]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but let's say...you breed a Ditto and a Metagross. A Ditto has a flawless speed IV and a Metagross has an outstanding attack IV. But once you breed them, you get a Beldum with a flawless speed IV and an outstanding attack IV, is that correct?

Yes, this is right, two IVs are randomly chosen from the father and one IV (diferent from the other two already chosen, of course) is randomly chosen from the mother, or vice versa.

The other three stats are random.

This is not saying that the babies WILL be better than the parents, let´s say:

Ditto´s IV:
HP: 15
Atk: 21
Def: 3
S.atk: 8
S.def: 20
Spd: 31

Metagross´ IV:
HP: 21
Atk: 28
Def: 4
S.atk: 20
S.def: 24
Spd: 7

Egg #1 can have:
HP: --
Atk: --
Def: 3 (Inherited from Ditto)
S.atk: 8 (Inherited from Ditto)
S.def: --
Spd: 7 (Inherited from Metagross)

Or it can be good like this:
HP: --
Atk: 28 (From Metagross)
Def: --
S.atk: --
S.def: 24 (From Metagross)
Spd: 31 (From Ditto)

I hope you understood =D

 

[Lord Scalgon]

Egg #1 looks like garbage to me... t_t

But yeah, I think I understand now. This applies with the female's IV's and the male's IV's correct?

 

[KingBattlus]

no, that isn't what's happening at all (in reference to all posts above jolteon's explanation)

you pass down three IVs from the parents of your pokemon. you chain breed IVs to get triple flawless, that is best you go for systematically.

basically do it like this: if you want a metagross with flawless attack/defense/hp (my personal recommendation but speed is still okay i guess), then breed beldum with ditto number one that has flawless attack. go until you get a baby with beldum with flawless attack, now, switch out ditto and old beldum with ditto that contains flawless defense, and beldum with flawless attack. breed those two until you get a baby with flawless attack and defense, then swap out both again, this time for ditto with flawless hit points (and it helps if you have a ditto with the right nature so you can attach an everstone to get the nature passed to the child 50% of the time) and switch in your double flawless beldum. keep breeding until you get one with flawless hit points, attack and defense. it's quite time consuming but well worth it in the end. the other three IVs are randomly assigned, so you could feasibly end with more flawless IVs, but it's unlikely.

the stats DO NOT increase because you breed, you can't breed 100 times and get flawless IVs across the board, they are randomly assigned for three stats, and inherited from the parents (stat and parent are chosen randomly as well). you could get wonderfully oustanding on your first egg (as i did with my bagon, though it didn't have the stats in the right places or the right nature), or you could breed endlessly (as i did with my exeggcute and had to settle for a double flawless one) without much luck.

using the breeder, you're looking for at least quite impressive in ability, if not wonderfully oustanding (wonderfully oustanding is the best).

beaten... oh well still helpful i guess

 

[Volteon]

Yes, half of Egg´s IVs are based on parent´s IVs.

EDIT:
BTW if you don´t know Legendary Top Breeder Master sayings means:
http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=78341

 

[Lord Scalgon]

Looks confusing, but it's well worth breeding (even if it should takes hours). Hm...

 

[Roy-X25]

But if your breeding with a Ditto the ditto is genderless or does that matter?
Its that you were talking about Mother inheratence and inherentence from the father But does the ditto just take on the mother part depending on the other poke or what?

(if this is a stupid question sorry.)

 

[Volteon]

No it doesn´t matter.
Ditto will pass 2 or 1 IV(s) depending on your luck, just like every other couples.

 

[Slim]

So is it impossible to inherit 3 IVs from one parent, and 0 from the other? I always thought that was a possibility, but I've never tried it myself.

But there is the possibility of inheriting less than 3, since apparently the game isn't smart enough to realize it already inherited one stat from one parent, and it can inherit the same stat from another parent, thus overwriting the previous IV.

 

[Whompithian]

So is it impossible to inherit 3 IVs from one parent, and 0 from the other? I always thought that was a possibility, but I've never tried it myself.

Yes, all three IVs can be inherited from one parent. Some time ago, I hatched 255 Magikarp from the same parents just to answer this question. If you don't mind a block of random data, here are the results of my hatchings:

http://gamescreens.mailandftp.com/Pokemon/Eggies

 

[Slim]

Thanks! That's actually just the sort of info I was looking for!