Your views on marijuana and drugs

[Ausgirl]

No its not, since you've ignored my question. With statistics its relevant.

It is relevant cos it's common knowledge that many people who use medical marijuana will often continue to use it after their treatment. Cos like all drugs it can become addictive...

 

[meteor64]

It is relevant cos it's common knowledge that many people who use medical marijuana will often continue to use it after their treatment. Cos like all drugs it can become addictive...

Prove it ffs, otherwise you're simply stereotyping without due cause.

 

[Ausgirl]

Prove it ffs, otherwise you're simply stereotyping without due cause.

Prove that it isn't.

 

[meteor64]

Prove that it isn't.

I dont care if it is or not- but your point isn't valid unitl you prove it.

 

[Ausgirl]

I dont care if it is or not- but your point isn't valid unitl you prove it.

Neither is yours.

 

[meteor64]

Neither is yours.

Either prove it or stop posting, since you're the one who seems to think using drugs = addiction. I did not blindly state my perceptions as evidence- you did. It's your responsibility to prove it.

Or contribute something else to the thread.

 

[Mandi.]

Anyone who uses drugs like marijuana is an idiot.

Why don't you go play with some learning blocks, grow up, and then come back and judge people and their reasonings for taking these substances ..especially marijuana.

 

[Shuam]

Neither is yours.

How old are you? 12?
God damn it marijuana does nothing but make you relaxed and makes you stop giving a fuck about shit. It's a fun social drug believe it or not and that's why so many people smoke it, eat it, etc. Oh no! It's illegal? That's just the government oppressing the people, like they always do. It's truly less destructive than alcohol & though there are carcinogens within it, they aren't as excessive as the ones in cigarettes and you aren't smoking 10+ joints a day every day. Go to Venice Beach in California and people are standing outside 420 shops and selling weed cards. It's all in good intentions.

LSD on the other hand I really want to try but am afraid that I'll have a flashback while driving, and am afraid other people might have flashbacks while driving as well. It's a tad more dangerous but it's also apparently one of the most awesome experiences you can have.

 

[GaZsTiC]

^^If you're that worried, just don't use your car.

 

[ashhleeyy]

It is relevant cos it's common knowledge that many people who use medical marijuana will often continue to use it after their treatment. Cos like all drugs it can become addictive...

definitely not addictive, habituating. two totally different things.

example: i'm broke as all get out right now and have more important things to spend my money on. if i had some extra cash here and there, you bet i'd be stoned in my free time. if someone buys weed with their money instead of paying for necessities, that makes them either stupid, a dead-beat, or both. i spent a good three years being perpetually high and when i started to really have to pay for a lot of things on my own, i knew what things needed to be cut. and never at any point have i experienced any sort of withdrawal or immediate need to start spending money on marijuana again.

"oh but you're just one person blah blah ignorance blah."

and to that i would say get more facts before you continue speaking out of your ass. watch the documentaries super high me and/or the union. the latter being more informative, the former being doug benson just being awesome.

 

[Shuam]

^^If you're that worried, just don't use your car.

My car's my livelyhood and I'm exceedingly independent for being a 17 year old so not getting myself places doesn't really work out well. At least until things get less eventful.

 

[meteor64]

one day cant be that hard, right?

 

[shady56]

drugs are heavy in my family and i have alot of problems so i always smoked to calm my nerves i never cared about fitting in i always smoked on my own or with my cousin but i been clean for 2 years but i never regret my choice of doing it nor do i try to bring down anyone else's choice of doing it neither nor will i ever its just my focus right now is getting where i need to be even if medically its rough but if i had the money i'd be stoned off my *** i would love for it to be legal but right now i got to stand on my feet before i can chill

if that made any sense thats how i feel on it all

 

[yoursavior]

one day cant be that hard, right?

The trip lasts about 8 hours with a hangover of about 24 hours, but you have the potential to lapse into a trip at any point for the rest of your life. The likely hood of having a flashback, though, is negligible to the point that the problem is nearly moot.

 

[RedMage23]

-Marijuana is no more addicting than the internet, television, porn, etc. (i.e. things that are psychologically but not physically addictive).
-The average number of deaths attributed to marijuana use in the US annually is 0
-The only scientifically supported negative impact of THC is that it has been linked to promoting psychosis in users who already have symptoms

Please don't be ignorant. If you are for or against marijuana, please provide relevant facts to back up your position. Misguided opinions are the number one hindrance of positive change in this world.

 

[Kiya]

definitely not addictive, habituating. two totally different things.

example: i'm broke as all get out right now and have more important things to spend my money on. if i had some extra cash here and there, you bet i'd be stoned in my free time. if someone buys weed with their money instead of paying for necessities, that makes them either stupid, a dead-beat, or both. i spent a good three years being perpetually high and when i started to really have to pay for a lot of things on my own, i knew what things needed to be cut. and never at any point have i experienced any sort of withdrawal or immediate need to start spending money on marijuana again.

"oh but you're just one person blah blah ignorance blah."

and to that i would say get more facts before you continue speaking out of your ass. watch the documentaries super high me and/or the union. the latter being more informative, the former being doug benson just being awesome.

I totally agree. Not addictive at ALL. I tried it once (BEST time of my life, I have major anxiety and it helped me out so much, I am very thankful I had one day laughing and enjoying life without feeling nausea OR getting sick) And I am not addicted AT ALL. I am wanting to try it again or get a medical license becasue it actually made my life a whole let better, not becasue I'm addicted. Don't get me wrong, It is super fun and a very good social drug BUT it also helps with a lot of medical issues. And so what if you use it for other purposes? it's a stress reliever that just so happens to be "illegal" only becasue the government can't tax it (or control it since it can be home grown). I mean think about it, EVERYONE does something to have their stress relived, and one of the more harmful things that Millions of people use but IS Legal is tobacco.

Best medication a Dr. can subscribe, think about it, all the chronic illnesses have been made easy by PAIN RELIVING canabas.

Credentials means everything, if someone says to prove your point you need to find an article/web article WITH CREDENTIALS (someone with a degree behind them, and I mean higher then high school folks) to show the argument you are using has been studied and have the correct statistics. Not just one person or a magazine article or opinion unless it truly stats an opinion i.e Your liking of it/ personal experiences.

Btw, I used to have a strong dislike of marijuana becasue my parents burnt it into my head. Don't get me wrong, it does have it's negative affects (spending 10 dollars on fast food two hours later because your so damn hungry/Coughing so much your throat gets sore/not being able to drive if you smoke too much/being in a good mood when in reality something would have ticked you off/ or laughing too hard your sides hurt) But it is more safe then the other things legal, alcohol can cause liver damage(and CAN become addicting) Ciggerettes can cause lung cancer(CAN become addicting)

yeah....Just woke up and saw this post and was like "What?! this on Serebii? no way, have to at least post somethin'

P.S your signature ROCKS ashhleeyy

 

[meteor64]

The trip lasts about 8 hours with a hangover of about 24 hours, but you have the potential to lapse into a trip at any point for the rest of your life. The likely hood of having a flashback, though, is negligible to the point that the problem is nearly moot.

So you have a party in the evening, take it then, after that, stay at home for a day recovering.
Obviously he doesn't care that much about a relapse so its all good, really.

 

[Profesco]

Folks, please understand that the statement "marijuana is unhealthy" is not a lie or an uneducated guess. There are negative effects to the drug, as there are to any and all drugs. Granted, alishenai herself may not be making much of a convincing or open-minded argument, but her opinion itself is not unfounded.

When a person claims that marijuana is harmful, and their opinion is that drugs in general are an unhealthy choice, it is not necessarily because:
1) they are a child
2) they are not brave or smart or independent enough to try drugs
3) they have been suckered in by an oppressive propaganda machine
4) they know nothing about the drug and its effects
5) they are speaking out of their rearends, or
6) they are trying to act like they're better than somebody who does use the drug.

Marijuana is neither a deadly poison nor a harmless wonderdrug. There are many worse things you can ingest, and there are many better things you can ingest. Marijuana is somewhere in the middle, and that does indeed mean it has undesirable health effects along with those feel-good sensations. To insult a person for pointing that out is equally as immature and incorrect as would be a person insulting you for claiming marijuana is fun or enjoyable (perhaps more so, considering that "marijuana is fun" is an opinion statement while "marijuana has harmful health effects" is a fact statement).

To be perfectly frank, I'm becoming rather annoyed with the many assurances that marijuana is fun, awesome, harmless, and totally unaddictive, mainly because these assurances are often paired with accusations that anyone who says otherwise falls into one of the six categories listed above. There is clearly hyperbole and ignorance on both sides of the argument, not just the con side. Let's not keep that running, okay?

The negative effects of marijuana are frequently exaggerated, but they do most certainly exist.

Research indicates that THC impairs the body's immune system from fighting disease, which can cause a wide variety of health problems. One study found that marijuana actually inhibited the disease-preventing actions of key immune cells. Another study found that THC increased the risk of developing bacterial infections and tumors.

Several studies have found that children born to mothers who used marijuana during pregnancy exhibit some problems with neurological development. According to those studies, prenatal marijuana exposure can cause:

•Altered responses to visual stimuli
•Increased tremulousness
•Problems with sustained attention and memory
•Poor problem-solving skills

When potentially confounding variables were controlled for in the analysis, the infants whose mothers had positive urine assays for marijuana, as compared with the infants whose mothers were negative according to both interviews and urine assays, had a 79-g decrease in birth weight (P = 0.04) and a 0.5-cm decrement in length (P = 0.02).

When high doses of marijuana are used, usually when eaten in food rather than smoked, users can experience the following symptoms:

•Hallucinations
•Delusions
•Impaired memory
•Disorientation

In fact, marijuana smoke contains 50-70 percent more carcinogenic hydrocarbons than tobacco smoke.

The loss of motivation is perhaps the most serious negative effect of using cannabis. It is extremely easy to become affected by the drug in this way from even mild habitual use. The long term health issues revolve mainly around smoking related illnesses, but there have been reported instances of people becoming psychologicaly addicted to the effects of cannabis. These people can experience drug pyschosis, which in extreme and rare circumstances can result in death, although there hasnt been a single case of death from cannabis usage alone.

This study validated several specific effects of marijuana abstinence in heavy marijuana users, and showed they were reliable and clinically significant. These withdrawal effects appear similar in type and magnitude to those observed in studies of nicotine withdrawal.

Heavy marijuana use has well established long term consequences for cognition and mental health, but the effect on brain structure is less well understood. We used an MRI technique that is sensitive to the structural integrity of brain tissue combined with a white matter mapping tractography technique to investigate structural changes in the corpus callosum (CC). Diffusion tensor imaging (DTI) was obtained in eleven heavy marijuana users who started using marijuana in early adolescence and eleven age matched controls. Mean diffusivity (MD) and fractional anisotropy (FA) (which measure structural integrity and tract coherence, respectively) were analysed within the corpus callosum which was spatially defined using tractography and tract-based spatial statistics (TBSS). MD was significantly increased in marijuana users relative to controls in the region of the CC where white matter passes between the prefrontal lobes. This observation suggests impaired structural integrity affecting the fibre tracts of the CC and is in keeping with previous reports of altered and diversified activation patterns in marijuana users. There was a trend towards a positive correlation between MD and length of use suggesting the possibility of a cumulative effect of marijuana over time and that a younger age at onset of use may predispose individuals to structural white matter damage. Structural abnormalities revealed in the CC may underlie cognitive and behavioural consequences of long term heavy marijuana use.

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Now, with that more temperate section out of the way, I'm going to end the post with what I don't doubt pro-drug members will see as pure bias and censorship. I don't intend it as bias, but I also don't expect my saying that to convince you. With that in mind, I beg your pardon.

This is still a children's forum, and we have a "lowest common denominator" factor built into our policies. You are entirely free to argue for the benefits and legalization of illicit/illegal drugs, but do not actually advocate or encourage the use of illicit/illegal drugs in your posts. Thank you.

 

[legendarypokemonmaster]

^ Yes, I agree with Profesco.
@alishenai if you make a claim, you have the "burden of evidence" It may seem logical to say "prove it's not" about something, but someone can reject a claim without having to prove that it is not true, especially if there is no evidence presented for the claim(you can't prove a negative anyways). Also, no need to flame him guys.
Marajuana and drugs just noticed that, it's a drug, but w/e

 

[Butterfly]

Marijuana can be addictive, like practically anything. Chemically it is basically completely non-addictive, but psychologically, it can become addictive. Basically, if a person comes to depend on it a lot for making them feel better, they can develop a psychological addiction. This applies to everything for the most part, not just drugs. Basically anything that makes you feel better, you can get addicted to. And yes, psychological addiction is the actual real term, just saying.