ZOMG!!, An OU Team Using Girafarig! *gasp*

[Gren Draco]

This is my newest RMT and uses my favourite pokemon, girafarig, in OU, i'll do anything to the team except take out said girafarig, thanks

Girafarig@choiceScarf
-Careful
-Innerfocus
220hp/36Def/108SpD/144Speed
-MirrorCoat
-Trick
-Wish
-Lightscreen

This is my lead, I’m not changing the actual pokemon since it is my favourite, and the whole point of the team. Mirror Coat beats down Special based leads out there. Trick is used with choicescarf, and hampers everything that isn’t a suicide lead, since I’ll get a focus sash in return (woopy). Wish is for team support, and really helps heatran, kingdra, snorlax and tangrowth take repeated beatings. Light Screen works in tandem with tangrowth's reflect for dual screen. The Ev’s let it outrun all base 115’s with Choice Scarf equipped, whilst 220Hp gives max lefties recovery if it gets lefties, and also gives it good special Def.

Honchkrow@Lifeorb
-Rash
-Insomnia
108 Atk/ 152 S.Atk/ 248 Spd
-SuckerPunch
-SuperPower
-HeatWave
-DrillPeck

MixSweeper Honchkrow, Need Help with the EV's since i don't know what things it needs to outspeed so i can't set the speed to anything useful. Heatwave lets it kill Steels, SuperPower let's it kill Tyranitar, Weavile and such. Ev's Let it outrun max speed +nature tyranitar and KO it with superpower.

Scizor @ Choice Band
-Adamant
92 HP/ 252 Atk/ 164 Spd
- Night Slash
- Bullet Punch
- Superpower
- U-Turn

CB Scizor, the ev's give it bulk as well as enough to outspeed cresselia and suicune, Nightslash to Murder Cress, uxieand such, and i suck with prediction so pursuit is a bit useless =/, bullet punch is for obvious reasons, a 90BP priority move should never be neglected, Superpower gets tyranitar, heatran etc. as well as hitting a lot neutrally with night slash, U-turn is for scouting, running away from magnezone, and a bug STAB move.

Heatran@ChoiceScarf
-Modest
-FlashFire
20hp/252SpA/236Spe
-FireBlast
-EarthPower
-HiddenPower (Ice)
-Explosion

Usual Scarftran, nothing to explain really except it benefits from tangrowths fire weakness…

Snorlax@Leftovers
-Careful
-ThickFat
204Hp/68Def/236SpD
-Rest
-SleepTalk
-BodySlam
-EarthQuake

Status Absorber and Special Tank, very few Special Sweepers can hope to even scratch RestTalk snorlax, Combines well with tangrowth to cover each other's weaknesses, except for bug and flying, which are covered by heatran. EV's give max Lefties recovery along with some defense Ev's. Used To Be Bissey

Tangrowth@Leftovers
-Impish
-Leafguard
236HP/244Def/28Spe
-PowerWhip
-Leechseed
-Reflect
-SleepPowder

This is used to help fix my tyranitar and gyarados weakness (which I always seem to have on the teams I make…), I know it’s a smogon standard but it’s still good, the only problem I have is uncrippling something with knock off after my girafarig has crippled it by giving it a choice scarf, so I went with reflect to support the rest of my team, and have dual screen with girafarig. The Ev's Give it max lefties recovery, almost max def, and enough speed to outspeed MixPert.

So there it is my newest RMT, I’ll do anything to it except take out girafarig, so go crazy!​

 

[kingmassa]

As far as I can see your team is well balanced with seemingly few weaknesses to exploit. Just be aware that your team could succumb to a late game Deoxys-S sweep. The mixed sweeping variety @life orb/expert belt could feasibly get through infernape, heatran and blissey and you'd find it difficult to revenge kill it. Still, if girafarig survives long enough (it's nice to see a bit of originality) then I suppose he could take care of it with sucker punch if it's on its own. Still that's perhaps not a glaring weakness, I just mentioned it because I use Deoxys-S and he can really punish teams late game if they don't have a surefire counter. (Spiritomb/Dusknoir come to mind)

 

[Gren Draco]

As far as I can see your team is well balanced with seemingly few weaknesses to exploit. Just be aware that your team could succumb to a late game Deoxys-S speed. The mixed sweeping variety @life orb/expert belt could feasibly get through infernape, heatran and blissey and you'd find it difficult to revenge kill it. Still, if girafarig survives long enough (it's nice to see a bit of originality) then I suppose he could take care of it with sucker punch if it's on its own. Still that's perhaps not a glaring weakness, I just mentioned it because I used Deoxys-S and he can really punish teams late game if they don't have a surefire counter. (Spiritomb/Dusknoir come to mind)

Thank You , and i thought about deoxys-s, and i'll have to play around it, since i can switch in blissey on its special attack, then switch to tangrowth on a superpower, then switch back to blissey on an ice beam and superpower will fail to KO blissey.

Did you have any thoughts on any of my undecided move slots?

 

[ForteXXX]

Interesting team, I'm not sure how well the Girafarig lead will work but I hope you have fun with it. I think on Tangrowth you should keep Knock Off, just be extra careful not to knock the choiced item off. I don't like Blissey either, mainly because I checked the counter list on Smogon and it was a mile long >_< If you don't want Blissey you could use Snorlax, or if you feel like being really un-standard you could use Lickilicky, who gets Wish, Counter, Knock Off, Power Whip, and STAB Explode. You could use this:

Lickilicky@ Leftovers
Ability: Own Tempo
Nature: Sassy
EV spread: 212 HP / 184 Atk / 112 SDef
Moves:
- Wish
- Protect
- Return
- Knock Off / Explosion

You could either use Knock Off to help get rid of your opponents items(the only one they'll have is that Choice Scarf rofl!) or if you wanted to you could use a STAB B00M! at the end.

You have no status-absorber, you could give Tangrowth a ResTalk set.
Also, two of your main sweepers are weak to EQ and you only have one pokemon that resists EQ, maybe switch Infernape for a Zapdos that so it covers Heatrans weaknesses(save water) and Heatran covers its weaknesses. You could use this set:

Zapdos@ Choice Specs
Ability: Pressure
Nature: Timid
EV spread: 6 Hp / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Moves:
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power {Ice / Grass}
- Heat Wave
- Extrasensory
TBolt for STAB and coverage, HP{Ice} for dragons or Grass for Swampy. Heat Wave hits Scizor and other steels that used to wall it, Extrasensory for fightings like Machamp and from lack of another move.

Hope I helped!

 

[Shadow101]

This is my newest RMT and uses my favourite pokemon, girafarig, in OU, i'll do anything to the team except take out said girafarig, thanks

Girafarig@choiceScarf
-Careful
-Innerfocus
220hp/72SpD/216Speed
-MirrorCoat
-Trick
-SuckerPunch
-Zenheadbutt/ThunderWave/substitute/Reflect/Lightscreen

Tangrowth@Leftovers
-Impish
-Leafguard
252HP/228Def/28Spe
-PowerWhip
-Leechseed
-KnockOff/poisonJab/Reflect
-SleepPowder​

The Moves in bold are the ones i would choose. Zen Headbutt for the stab and For tangrowth i would give it knock off for supporting purposes as its not a sweeping pokemon

 

[kingmassa]

Thank You , and i thought about deoxys-s, and i'll have to play around it, since i can switch in blissey on its special attack, then switch to tangrowth on a superpower, then switch back to blissey on an ice beam and superpower will fail to KO blissey.

Did you have any thoughts on any of my undecided move slots?

Concerning the choice between Tangrowth's moves I'd say forget poison jab. Most grass types used have a secondary typing that makes them immune to poison, such as celebi. All in all, poison isn't really a great offensive type at all. Knock could be questionable once you've tricked an item but it still has invaluable support value and can help uncover movesets of pokemon that rely on a specific items e.g. choice and nerfs them in the process. Reflect is good for support and really makes Tangrowth hard to break physically, so the choice between knock off and reflect should depend on what appeals more to you.
As for Girafarig, I'm not sure I'd go with zen headbutt, as it's ability to set up screens or spread paralysis would be more useful on a pokemon with only average attack. The choice scarf would help it get off quick thunderwaves which many won't expect as girafarig isn't often seen or it could use light screen to work in tandem with Tangrowth to set up a dual screen if Tangrowth runs reflect.
Ok so I guess I'm not necessarily telling you what to run but more telling you the strengths of each one, so I guess you should go for the most appealing option in your mind.

 

[ForteXXX]

Most grass types used have a secondary typing that makes them immune to poison, such as celebi

Celebi is weak to poison, but yah don't use Poison Jab, use Knock Off if you use TW on Giraf, and use Reflect if you use Light Screen with Giraf.

 

[Gren Draco]

Concerning the choice between Tangrowth's moves I'd say forget poison jab. Most grass types used have a secondary typing that makes them immune to poison, such as celebi. All in all, poison isn't really a great offensive type at all. Knock could be questionable once you've tricked an item but it still has invaluable support value and can help uncover movesets of pokemon that rely on a specific items e.g. choice and nerfs them in the process. Reflect is good for support and really makes Tangrowth hard to break physically, so the choice between knock off and reflect should depend on what appeals more to you.
As for Girafarig, I'm not sure I'd go with zen headbutt, as it's ability to set up screens or spread paralysis would be more useful on a pokemon with only average attack. The choice scarf would help it get off quick thunderwaves which many won't expect as girafarig isn't often seen or it could use light screen to work in tandem with Tangrowth to set up a dual screen if Tangrowth runs reflect.
Ok so I guess I'm not necessarily telling you what to run but more telling you the strengths of each one, so I guess you should go for the most appealing option in your mind.

That helps me a lot

i think i'll use the dual screen method

with snorlax giving paralysis support

Interesting team, I'm not sure how well the Girafarig lead will work but I hope you have fun with it. I think on Tangrowth you should keep Knock Off, just be extra careful not to knock the choiced item off. I don't like Blissey either, mainly because I checked the counter list on Smogon and it was a mile long >_< If you don't want Blissey you could use Snorlax, or if you feel like being really un-standard you could use Lickilicky, who gets Wish, Counter, Knock Off, Power Whip, and STAB Explode. You could use this:

Lickilicky@ Leftovers
Ability: Own Tempo
Nature: Sassy
EV spread: 212 HP / 184 Atk / 112 SDef
Moves:
- Wish
- Protect
- Return
- Knock Off / Explosion

You could either use Knock Off to help get rid of your opponents items(the only one they'll have is that Choice Scarf rofl!) or if you wanted to you could use a STAB B00M! at the end.

The thing about that is it's not a very reliable Special wall, i'm gonna use snorlax instead with this set:

Snorlax@Leftovers
-Careful
-ThickFat
244Hp/28Def/236SpD
-Rest
-SleepTalk
-BodySlam
-EarthQuake

Status Absorber and Special Tank, very few Special Sweepers can hope to even scratch RestTalk snorlax, Combines well with tangrowth to cover each other's weaknesses, except for bug and flying, which are covered by heatran

You have no status-absorber, you could give Tangrowth a ResTalk set.
Also, two of your main sweepers are weak to EQ and you only have one pokemon that resists EQ, maybe switch Infernape for a Zapdos that so it covers Heatrans weaknesses(save water) and Heatran covers its weaknesses. You could use this set:

Zapdos@ Choice Specs
Ability: Pressure
Nature: Timid
EV spread: 6 Hp / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Moves:
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power {Ice / Grass}
- Heat Wave
- Extrasensory
TBolt for STAB and coverage, HP{Ice} for dragons or Grass for Swampy. Heat Wave hits Scizor and other steels that used to wall it, Extrasensory for fightings like Machamp and from lack of another move.

I really need a Mix Sweeper, which is why i'm not going to use that, but i am considering mix-honchkrow, any thoughts?

Hope I helped!

edits in bold

 

[ForteXXX]

I really need a Mix Sweeper, which is why i'm not going to use that, but i am considering mix-honchkrow, any thoughts?

Yes I think a mix-honchkrow would work, you could use Night Slash / Heat Wave / HP{Fighting} / Drill Peck @Choice Scarf, or if you don't want to scarf it you could use Life Orb and change Night Slash to Sucker Punch. It can also learn Super Power if you prefer that over Hidden Power, but that would make it more of a hit-and-run pokemon. You're choice ^_^

 

[Gren Draco]

Yes I think a mix-honchkrow would work, you could use Night Slash / Heat Wave / HP{Fighting} / Drill Peck @Choice Scarf, or if you don't want to scarf it you could use Life Orb and change Night Slash to Sucker Punch.

i'll go with the LO set, i'll update the first post now...,

thank you for all your help

 

[kingmassa]

Lucario is a potential mixed sweeper that comes to mind with far more switch in possibilities and durability than Honchkrow and also with more nasty attacks and type coverage. The mix Lucario I've used from time to time is not the most common but that's one of its strengths.

Lucario@ Life Orb
Ability: Inner Focus
Nature: Mild
EVs: 80atk/240spA/188speed
-Agility
-Close Combat
-Dark Pulse (for flinch or shadow ball if you want a spD drop, no real type coverage change)
-HP Ice

Or you could go with a more standard one if you find this set unappealing. The speed EVs let him outspeed +speed base 110s @ choice scarf, most notably scarf gengar.

EDIT: I see you've gone for Honchkrow, you can still keep old luke in mind though, he is pretty dangerous. XD

 

[Gren Draco]

Lucario is a potential mixed sweeper that comes to mind with far more switch in possibilities and durability than Honchkrow and also with more nasty attacks and type coverage. The mix Lucario I've used from time to time is not the most common but that's one of its strengths.

Lucario@ Life Orb
Ability: Inner Focus
Nature: Mild
EVs: 80atk/240spA/188speed
-Agility
-Close Combat
-Dark Pulse (for flinch or shadow ball if you want a spD drop, no real type coverage change)
-HP Ice

Or you could go with a more standard one if you find this set unappealing. The speed EVs let him outspeed +speed base 110s @ choice scarf, most notably scarf gengar.

EDIT: I see you've gone for Honchkrow, you can still keep old luke in mind though, he is pretty dangerous. XD

idk about that luke, i might go with a different mixluke, but it doesn't really get any more coverage than physical luke =/

 

[kingmassa]

idk about that luke, i might go with a different mixluke, but it doesn't really get any more coverage than physical luke =/

that's true, but it's the speed boost that makes him deadly, but yeah I'm not surprised you found it a strange set lol.

 

[ForteXXX]

On Honchcrow 236 Spd EV's with Naive Nature gets you a Spd Stat of 255 which outruns a neutral nature max spd Heatran, divide the rest between attack and SAtk. Blue Ace did such a good job at making a Spd Tier you should use it, it helps ALLOT when making teams:

http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=359411

 

[Gren Draco]

that's true, but it's the speed boost that makes him deadly, but yeah I'm not surprised you found it a strange set lol.

It's not that i think it's not a good set, cause it is, since luke forces so many switches it's easy to get agillity up, but i already have kingdra on my team, and two set up sweepers is too many imo.

 

[kingmassa]

Speaking of Kingdra, it can make a really good swift swim mixed sweeper if you ever choose to go down that route.

 

[ForteXXX]

Speaking of Kingdra, it can make a really good swift swim mixed sweeper if you ever choose to go down that route.

Except none of his other pokemon benefit from Rain and Heatran is hurt by it, I'm not thinking that would be such a good idea.

 

[kingmassa]

Except none of his other pokemon benefit from Rain and Heatran is hurt by it, I'm not thinking that would be such a good idea.

True, but I've found that whenever I set up a raindance, I stayed in for the entirety of the rainfall, after which the opposition was decimated or kingdra fell leaving a not so healthy team behind, although yeah, your point is more valid. =\

 

[ForteXXX]

True, but I've found that whenever I set up a raindance, I stayed in for the entirety of the rainfall, after which the opposition was decimated or kingdra fell leaving a not so healthy team behind, although yeah, your point is more valid. =\

And he's got Dragon Dance so Rain Dance isn't needed all that much.

 

[Gren Draco]

hey gren draco u have yourself a nice team but i was wondering if you would rate my trick room team it has the "title the slower, the faster"

I was going to anyway, but i'd appreciate it if you didn't post on my thread just to advertise yours...

Speaking of Kingdra, it can make a really good swift swim mixed sweeper if you ever choose to go down that route.

What ForteXXX said xD