Current Team...

[Mullac51]

Salamence@Choice Specs
Modest
252 Sp. Atk, 252 Spd. 6 Sp. Def

Hydro Pump
Draco Meteor
Dragon Pulse
Flamethrower

Standard Specs-Mence Lead.

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Electivire@Choice Scarf
Lonely
252 Atk, 152 Spd, 106 Sp. Atk

Thunderbolt
Ice Punch
Earthqauke
Cross Chop

152 Spd EV's at level 100 = 264 Spd. 264 x 1.5= 396. Jolly Weavile Max = 383, Jolly Aerodactyl Max = 394. The rest is pumped into Sp. Atk for an increased Thunderbolt. The rest is standard.

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Togekiss@Metronome
Calm
248 HP, 84 Def, 176 Sp. Def

Thunder Wave
Roost
Aura Sphere
Air Slash

Para-Flincher / Special Wall. Thunder Wave for status, Roost to restore, while Aura Sphere for type coverage and accuracy, with Air Slash for Strong STAB and to combine with Metronome once the flinch starts to kick in. (Yes, it was a typo with the Spd and not Sp. Def.)

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Vaporeon@Leftovers
Bold
188 HP, 70 Sp. Atk, 252 Def

Haze
Surf
Substitute
Baton Pass

I found I needed a Hazer, and this is great. Originally running with Dusknoir, I found I had a problem with SD Weavile and Hasty Garchomp, but with this, it provides a half-resistence, while working as a Sub-Passer and Hazer. Surf for STAB.

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Dugtrio@Choice Band
Adamant
252 Atk, 232 Spd, 24 Sp. Def
Arena Trap

Sucker Punch
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Aerial Ace (Pursuit?)

Simple Revenge Killer at its best. No-one does it better than Duggy. Thinking of Pursuit for Gengar Switch-outs.

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Tangrowth@Leftovers
Impish
252 HP, 220 Def, 36 Spd

Power Whip
Knock Off
Sleep Powder
Leech Seed

A Beast. 350 Atk Gyara + 1 DD + Ice Fang doesn't even 3HKO Tangrowth once leftovers is factored in, and Power Whip does 40% damage per turn, as long as it isn't the one intimidated.

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Regards,

~M51

 

[Earthquake92]

arena trap doesn't trap gengar

as for the punches look at what pokemon you have had trouble with and then decide.

 

[Mullac51]

arena trap doesn't trap gengar

as for the punches look at what pokemon you have had trouble with and then decide.

lol, forgot it had Levitate, o.0!

As for the punches, I might go fire. I don't cover Ice Types all that well, and it can help against Weavile if needed, although I don't know how it'll do against a Life Orb'd Night Slash...

EDIT: lol, it's no longer in my team...

~M51

 

[Earthquake92]

lol, forgot it had Levitate, o.0!

As for the punches, I might go fire. I don't cover Ice Types all that well, and it can help against Weavile if needed, although I don't know how it'll do against a Life Orb'd Night Slash...

EDIT: lol, it's no longer in my team...

~M51

dont worry about it anyways... you have sucker punch so if it tries to hp ice you it dies.

 

[Mullac51]

Yeah, but Hypnosis is a worry. NVM though, it's handled... (CS Vire...)

~M51

 

[Blue Ace]

Looks generic to me, nice job

- I honestly dont get Scarf on Vire when you can just switch him into electric attacks aimed at Vaporeon and maybe Togekiss and gives you the same speed boost plus the ability to switch moves

- "Special Wall" weak to Boltbeam?......dont get your hopes up that Togekiss will be able to take Mence's Draco Meteors or Heatrans Specs Fire Blast either or Specs Alakzam...

- Life Orb Dugtrio and Adamant is just plain dumb, for 1 it cant OHKO TTar, and 2 Infernape outspeeds it, which is just hilarious, Jolly and Choice Band or else it fails

I still cant believe people consider Dusknoir a Bliss counter, a counter has to be able to 2HKO her or better, Dusknoir simply stalls and maybe annoys her, and thats it.

 

[Frost Nova]

Togekiss@Metronome
Calm
248 HP, 84 Def, 176 Spd

Thunder Wave
Roost
Aura Sphere
Air Slash

I suppose this is to mean SDef, since it's not obvious what you're going to be outrunning.

And there's eight pokemon here, please don't tell me we're supposed to pick the team for you. Anyway, BoltBeam ****s you up.

 

[phantom1113]

I suppose this is to mean SDef, since it's not obvious what you're going to be outrunning.

And there's eight pokemon here, please don't tell me we're supposed to pick the team for you. Anyway, BoltBeam ****s you up.

you'd be suprised to see how much ul outspeed with max speed togekiss,

mine works great and i put all the evs on satk and speed,
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anywaysnice find on the vire i might use it since im breeding it right now

CB on dugtrio and maybe nightslash over suckerpunch then

 

[aipomkong]

- Life Orb Dugtrio and Adamant is just plain dumb, for 1 it cant OHKO TTar, and 2 Infernape outspeeds it, which is just hilarious, Jolly and Choice Band or else it fails

lol jolly choice band dugtrio fails more like. it fails to 2hko blissey, which is the focal point of dugtrio.

adamant @ choice band
252 atk / enough speed to outspeed garchomp / rest in sdef

 

[Blue Ace]

lol jolly choice band dugtrio fails more like. it fails to 2hko blissey, which is the focal point of dugtrio.

adamant @ choice band
252 atk / enough speed to outspeed garchomp / rest in sdef

too lazy to run the calcs really, so i'll take your word for it, may I add that no Blisseys run max HP anymore and that most are now Obi style (weaker on the physical walling side), its a 2HKO with Jolly on that set anyway iirc, or the idiotic Smogon one...

Ape outspeeds Adamant....but i guess that doesnt matter since Vaporeon is there so w/e, if thats the reasoning, then you also dont need the speed to outrun Chomp either...

So it'll be something like:

Adamant: 252 Atk, 212 Spd, 44 S.Def

EDIT: 232 Spd if you really feel the need for Chomp

 

[Frost Nova]

you'd be suprised to see how much ul outspeed with max speed togekiss,

Like what, exactly? I'm just curious.

mine works great and i put all the evs on satk and speed,

Which isn't the point of his Togekiss.

So get out of this thread already.

 

[Earthquake92]

Egad...

Jolly > Adamant if your team is not Blissey weak and use Choice Band always.

Adamant > Jolly if your team is Blissey weak.

And about what blue ace said... put 232 spe EV into that dugtrio and max att, then put the rest in spe.

hey frost nova, you still browse the forums... cool. i got a 5 month ban and just created an new account that the end of my ban because my name was so obnoxious lol.

 

[Mullac51]

Thanks for the updates. I'm also wondering on Pursuit over Aerial Ace, as when I switch on on Gengar, it'll most likely flee, so pursuit. (Also for azlef it can work too)

~M51