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heirokee

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So, I'm gonna be making an eevee family based team.

New and original, I know, I know

But not just for novelty! I actually intend on using it. :)

So anyways, I have a basic outline for my team, but I need to decide a few things about it.

first of all, I'm considering giving them all baton pass... the upside is that every time a poke comes out it will just be stronger than it was before, but the downside is that it would take up a slot which could otherwise be used for some other attack, and not all the eeveelutions have an great stat boosters...

Also, I'm trying to figure out a good nature for my Vaporeon... I look at it and it screams special wall at first glance, but doesn't acid armor sharply raise Def not Sp. Def? That kind of makes me think it would be a decent wall towards both types of attack if I give it a bold nature. Though, if I keep it as a purely special wall, I could BP acid to my leafeon which is a decent physical wall to being with.

anyways, suggestions would be appreciated...


oh, and I'm very newbish to boards... I generally just play with friends, so if this should be posted somewhere else, I'm sorry ahead of time and will move it there quickly if you just tell me where

well... that was kind of a wall of text, but it would be great if somebody could give me some suggestions
 
heirokee said:
So, I'm gonna be making an eevee family based team.

New and original, I know, I know
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uhh no it isn't, eevee family teams have been used since 3rd gen

first of all, I'm considering giving them all baton pass... the upside is that every time a poke comes out it will just be stronger than it was before, but the downside is that it would take up a slot which could otherwise be used for some other attack, and not all the eeveelutions have an great stat boosters...
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vaporeon has acid armor. umbreon has mean look. leafeon has swords dance. espeon has calm mind. jolteon has agility. all have access to wish.
most eeveelution teams are bp teams anyway.

Also, I'm trying to figure out a good nature for my Vaporeon... I look at it and it screams special wall at first glance, but doesn't acid armor sharply raise Def not Sp. Def? That kind of makes me think it would be a decent wall towards both types of attack if I give it a bold nature. Though, if I keep it as a purely special wall, I could BP acid to my leafeon which is a decent physical wall to being with.
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bold nature.

anyways, suggestions would be appreciated...
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you have to post movesets yourself.
 
the new and original part was sarcastic, but I suppose that doesn't translate well in text...

but anyways, I left the moveset out because it didn't really matter for the questions I had asked. I'd like to know the reasoning behind the bold nature. Also, if you count, there were only five eeveelutions with a really useful stat boost, that means I kind of just have an extra sitting there, unless I wanna use wish on that one.

Also, would aqua ring BP? I feel lie it should, but I'm not sure

If it does my vap moveset would probably be something like

surf
aqua ring
acid armor
BP
 
but you can make a team with 6 of teh eeveelutions, you don't have to use them all.

anyway best vaporeon set would probably be substitute/surf/aqua ring/baton pass.
 
well, I'm obviously going to cut out two of them...

which actually would lead to another question...

The only ones that are definately going to be on ym team are vap, jolt, esp, and leaf.

I'm fairly certain I'll also have glac as a special sweeper, but I'm not sure as to whether or not flare or umb would be a better annoyer, the big advantage of flare is the whole WoW thing, but otherwise I feel like umb would do a better job because of mean look...

at least I hate it when I get mean looked, I don't know if anybody else does...
 
yeah, sub is very tempting on my little vap...

maybe I just need two of them? In my opinion, they have the best movepool of the set for what they need to do, and I'd probably just have an annoyer (which I'm not too fond of anyways) in the sixth slot...
 
Just thinking...

if I were to give all my eeveelutions BP, my biggest threat would be... a crobat XD

I find that very amusing
 
okay, so, minus EVs because I find them incredibly annoying to write down, a BP team of eevees would probably end up something like this

VAP
bold
-surf
-aqua ring
-sub/acid armor
-BP

JOLT
timid
-t-bolt
-agility
-maybe hidden power fighting, not sure on this slot
-BP

LEAF
impish
-leaf blade
-swords dance
-x-scissor?
-BP

ESP
timid
-psychic
-calm mind
-shadow ball
-BP

GLAC
modest
-ice beam
-HP ground
-mirror coat?
-BP

then either FLARE or UMB, whichever one it would have wish, BP and some annoyer and an attack move

does that look about right?

the GLAC was giving me a little trouble to figure out, cuz I figure giving it a move type that's already covered would be kind of pointless since I could just switch out. An HP ground covers pretty much all of it's weaknesses, though which left me with an extra slot, maybe I could stick wish in there but mirror coat would work well with all the stat boosting I'd be doing and it's decent Sp Def stat. I suppose two wishers isn't a bad thing though.
 
do the above movesets look right?

how about teh natures? I just hatched a modest eevee, is that right for a GLAC?
 
There are several problems with having Baton Pass with some stat upper on all of your pokemon.

First, some Hazer or Pseudohazer like Skarmory (Whirlwind)/Weezing (Haze) could come in and ruin that with ease. All it takes is one turn to make what you did in 10 turns all completely worthless. Focus more on killing the pokemon in front of you instead of pulling off a novel strategy.

Next, a lot of your pokemon don't use the same stat. If you saw a flying pokemon with Leafeon, you'd probably switch out to Jolteon, right? This would have given Jolteon a Swords Dance, which is completely useless to it.

Jolteon, Espeon, Umbreon and Vaporeon seem like the only ones who should have Baton Pass, since Baton Passing Swords Dance from Leafeon to the rest of your team is just a waste of time. Substitute would be the only thing worth passing from your Leafeon in this case (you could argue Swords Dance's usefulness here only if you had a physical sweeper, like Flareon).

In order to pull off this strategy well, you need a Rapid Spinner of some sort, so that spikes/stealth rock/toxic spikes don't screw you over royally, meaning you'd have to cut out one of those Eevee evolutions for a different pokemon.

I'd make Umbreon more like this-

Umbreon@Leftovers
Wish
Substitute
Baton Pass
Toxic

If you're not ok with not having an attack, then Dark Pulse is an option. I've said it before it another thread (Shadow Trainer's RMT), baton passing both substitute and wish to a pokemon at the same time is very useful, especially on a pokemon with high HP and decent attacking capabilities.
 
Mean Look should really be a necessity here as you want to be able to get all your boosts off without them just switching to a (p)hazer, once all your boosts are done you'll just kill it anyway
 
Annhialator Zero said:
Mean Look should really be a necessity here as you want to be able to get all your boosts off without them just switching to a (p)hazer, once all your boosts are done you'll just kill it anyway
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Theoretically, that would be the safest way. But still, there's nothing that guarantees your opponent is doing nothing while you're increasing your stats, so it's not too practical in that regard.

Most of the Eevee evolutions are simply too fragile to power up while taking a beating.
 
Annhialator Zero said:
Which is why you need Sub and Wish support (Reflect/Screen on Espy can help too)
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I agree (In fact, I think his Vaporeon already has Wish/Sub).

Using Reflect on Espeon would make it so you wouldn't have to Baton Pass if you hadn't begun your stat upping spree... Calm Mind + Reflect is just a good combo too.
 
hmm, well, I would probably start with a VAP as it has the highest hp stat and with even just one acid armor or maybe a sub, it should be able to survive at least one hit, unless somebody starts with a grass or electric pokemon with a strong physical attack of their respective type, which doesn't seem all that common. I'm very tempted to give VAP sub, but I feel as if acid armor is a little more useful as it will help the much more fragile eeveelutions survive a hit or two if they get caught in a bad situation. Also, I'm aware that really, only LEAF would be using the attack stat (poor flareon, no flare blitz makes him next to worthless) but I feel like not giving him BP and coming up against, I don't know, an Infernape, would put several rounds of buffing to waste, and not only that, if I were to switch LEAF back in, it would retain the SD from before, which couldn't possibly be a bad thing.

Also, I'm very aware of the threat a (p)hazer would present. However, no team is without a flaw, but the truth is that with a strong STABed move on each of my little eeveelutions, even without stat ups, they can still pack a punch. Granted, it's nothing like a fully calm minded blast of eevee wrath, but it's still enough to kill quite a few pokes if they have a weakness to whatever type it is.

But that's not really what this topic is about. I've already thought through teh pros and cons of an eevee team, but that doesn't stop me from wanting to use one. My movesets are puzzling me a bit at the moment. Nobody answered my question earlier so I might as well ask it again, does aqua ring BP? if not I'll probably use sub AND acid armor on my VAP, but if so it'll probably have aqua ring and BP, then maybe my Umbreon would have sub, wish, BP, and I don't know... toxic or mean look probably. That way I'll still have decently powerful subs, not enough to survive 2 seismic tosses, but enough to give me a turn to use a stat booster or something, which is really all I would need it for.

Of course, my other option is to ignore BP pretty much all together. I might have it on my VAP and give it a nice little substitute plus acid armor, but that would be it. All the others could be focused solely on blowing up whatever comes my way, and the sub would give it a chance to do so.
 
I know it's kind of a wall of text above me, but it would be great if you could help out

oh, and what's the fastest way to breed wish onto an eevee?
 
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