EV Power Leveling Question...

[vulpixd00d]

Please, somebody varify this with me.

Alright, say I'm EV training a level 5 pokemon. I equip a macho brace for double EV's and I use the VS Seeker on specific trainers that have pokemon that give you 3 EV's for one stat. Since it's a +3 to EV, the pokemon obviously has to be a significantly higher level, and a fully evolved form in order to give as many points as it does. But what I'm trying to get to is, when I put the level 5 in front of my party, and go into the battle with the trainer, I switch out pokemon and defeat the opponent with that pokemon. My level 5 then gets a bunch of experience points, bringing it up to level 10-13.

I just want to varify that I'm getting the 3 EV's for the stat, doubled since it has a Macho Brace. AND that it's getting the 6 EV's for each level that it gains, and not just 6 EV's from defeating the pokemon and leveling up.

 

[ShiningCharizardUK]

I personally wouldn't level up in that manor. I carried out a small test whereby I trained two charmanders in slightly different ways (one power levelling in victory road) and one battling lower level pokemon like drowzee near vermilion. You can guess which gained the better results - see my thread in this forum. I don't know if it was just down to preset IVs being better on one Charmander than the other or what. All I can say is try doing what your doing and take note of the stat changes when it goes up.. then soft reset and go battle to the same level you got to (lv10-13) but this time do it by EV training against lower levels (obviously it will take a little longer) but I'd wager your stats will be better for it...

 

[Argento]

Were the Charmanders of the same nature?

 

[Taylor Ray]

EV's don't take effect instantly, they take effect over the course of your training to Lv. 100.

 

[ShiningCharizardUK]

Were the Charmanders of the same nature?

no - but it's not just the spred of stats I'm pointing out - it's the amount of stat increase per level which is the significant matter. In 7 levels of training the one that battled lower levels gained around an extra 5-7 stat points spread across it's stats over the one trained using 'power-leveling'

 

[ShiningCharizardUK]

EV's don't take effect instantly, they take effect over the course of your training to Lv. 100.

I don't know whether I'd agree with that, is that in any official guides or anything? Basically what I'm doing at the moment is checking serebii's section on what EVs you get for defeating which pokémon and basing my battles accordingly. I'm level 24 at the moment and quite happy with the stat increases. For instance, I just went up 4HP from Lv23-24 and also 2s and 3s on most other stats (except +1 on sp def this level) - what I'm saying is, it seems to have some sort of immediate effect - this is the highest amount I had gone up in HP during one level up and this level I had fought against some jigglypuff/clefairys which have 2EVs (bare in mind I'm also wearing macho brace) so it goes to 4EVs to HP - and I beat 2 of each. I also took on some Geodudes and Paras for defence and attack EVs respectively as my attack is looking the lowest out of my current stats.. so far I'm on this..

Charmeleon Lv24
SERIOUS nature

HP: 70
ATT: 41
DEF: 45
SP ATT: 50
SP DEF: 41
SPD: 50

Obviously I won't get a really good idea of how good this is going to be until around Lv70 or thereabouts but it seems like I'm having some good increases per level so far on the whole and I think these EVs have more of an immediate effect than people might realise.

 

[vulpixd00d]

I will carry out my own experiment with this, I have quite a few Eevee hatched from eggs, a few with the same nature ... but I'm positive that the IV's won't be that much different considering they're all mated from the same two pokemon. I'll EV Power Train one of the Eevee's to level 50, and then slow level the other Eevee to level 50 and see which is better as result from that.

I also apologize for double threading, I use dial-up at home, and it doesn't respond very well with serebiiforums.

 

[cloudblade70]

There should be no difference at all in how you EV train...in the end, it is all the same.

You are noticing a discrepancy in how they gain stats, for your particular case, and you should...

For example, you have a level 5 Charmander, and let's say you want to train its attack EVs by killing a lot of Paras in Mt. Moon. Because you kill at a slower rate, after the first few levels, it might take you 10 Paras to gain one level...10 Paras x 2 Attack EVs per Paras (with Macho Brace) = 20 Attack EVs...so you would be seeing a much more substantial stat gain.

Now, let's say you go "power leveling," which I do. For attack I go to the Island that has a lot of trainers with Machokes and Machamps. Let's say I fight a trainer with a level 52 Machoke and a level 52 Machamp. From this battle, I might gain enough exp to level 5 or so times, but with the Macho brace, would only receive 10 Attack EVs, so the immediate gains are not as noticeable as in the first case.

In the end, at level 100, the EV training method does not matter.

 

[Mauville]

I just want to varify that I'm getting the 3 EV's for the stat, doubled since it has a Macho Brace..

AND that it's getting the 6 EV's for each level that it gains, and not just 6 EV's from defeating the pokemon and leveling up.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, you will get the EV from the Pokémon you battled (even if it was switched out) plus the macho brace effect. So if you battled a Haunter with your Pokémon and then switch it out with another Pokémon to defeat it, both Pokémon will get 2 EV's from battling it. The EV's don't split like the experience does, even if you have macho brace equiped on that Pokémon and/or Pokérus (only the Pokémon with the macho brace or Pokérus will gain bonus EV's).

AND that it's getting the 6 EV's for each level that it gains, and not just 6 EV's from defeating the pokemon and leveling up.

Actually, EV's don't add up when you gain a level. EV's add up when you defeat the Pokémon. So it dosen't matter if it levels up. I could catch a lvl 50 Fearow in the wild with no EV's, fight 255 Weedle's without gaining a lvl and have 255 EV's for speed on my Fearow. Now I will get +64 speed (since I maxed my speed) for my Fearow as it progressively lvls up.