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ev training help

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horrorxshow

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hey, my name is jess. i'm pretty new to ev training and rather than wander around blindly trying to make sense of things i figured i might as well just ask people who'll know, cause a lot of what i've read just doesn't answer my questions. at the moment i'm not traning anything for a specific team, i'm just training up a bunch of different things to see what i like and what works well for me before deciding on any sort of team or structure.

so far i've ev trained a modest manaphy as a special sweeper using a guide, and a modest drifloon, also as a special sweeper through my own guesswork since a fair few of the pokemon i want to ev train haven't been pokemon of the week before. at the moment i'm thinking of training up a modest (coincidence, btw) blissey as a special or a mixed wall. it's on level 22 and its stats stand at:

HP: 149
ATT: 14
DEF: 10
SP. ATT: 44
SP. DEF: 67
SPD: 33

from what i've read, walls should have high hp, def & sp. def, right? well my question is, with stats like these, does it mean i should invest ev points into sp. def to make it really awesome, or should i invest more of them in def to build it up as it's currently so weak? everywhere i look people list the ev points they put into each stat, but no one says what their actual stats are, so i have no idea if such poor att & def stats are normal and if people make successful walls out of such pokemon regardless.

also, i haven't been able to find much information on what stats people build on to make tanks. i've got a serious toxicroak with fairly even stats all around, so i was thinking of making a tank out of it, but i've got no idea how many evs to invest where. my impression of tanks is that they're strong in all stats but that speed doesn't really matter. does that mean to make a tank i put evs into all stats except speed? that doesn't sound right to me, but i don't really know much about it, which is why i'm asking, haha.

hopefully i didn't sound like an idiot and ask questions that get asked all the time, but some help here would be really appreciated. thanks! :]
 
The reasons your blissy has such crap atk and def is cuz its base atk and def are both 10, so its normal. It should have a bold nature, and max (252) evs in defence, because otherwise it will just get killed by anything with a decent fighting move. I'm not good with spreads so leave that to someone else.

A tanks purpose is to take hits and give them also. Tanks need ev's in hp, def and sp. def (usually one is higher than the other) and atk/ sp. atk. However, the amounts are not all the same. Also, Toxicroak isnt a tank, its a physical sweeper, because its got high atk and spd. Its defences and hp arnt good enough for it to be a tank. If youre stuck on what position one of your pokemon should be, use the serebii pokedex, cuz it has all the base stats, and max and mins of all pokemon.
 
ahh okay then. well i'll have a look around at what other people have done with their blisseys to get the evs right, but thanks for letting me know it's normal.

& fair enough. my toxicroak's speed didn't seem to be much higher than any of the other stats at first glance, and i've already made two sweepers so i wanted to try something different, but if it doesn't really make a good tank i guess i'll just train up a different pokemon for that purpose & keep toxicroak as a sweeper.

thanks heaps. :]
 
Read the above stickies to help out with your questions.
 
Hey,

Sorry if this confuses you more but before Ev's there was Iv's.
IV's are slightly more headachey to get than Ev's.
Iv's are what make each individual pokemon almost unique.
Hence Individual Values (IV)
they range from 0~31 with 0 being the lowest and 31 being the highest.
Each stat has its own randomly generated Iv number.
These IV's are preset factors that are built into the pokemon as soon as you meet it (wild battles and even in eggs they are preset).
I think the ratio of IV's is one IV = one stat.
This is only if your seriously going into major comps and stuff cause its soooo time consuming (Im a laxy bum so i dont breed pokemon like crazy)
Plus you have to get the ability and nature right as well as "perfect Iv's"
I know for 1 that my friend spent he last 6 months of his life breedingthe perfec Gibble (it was really awesome though).
Good luck for your team!
 
IV's are slightly more headachey to get than Ev's.
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Slightly? Getting perfect IVs is torture. EVs are easy.

I know for 1 that my friend spent he last 6 months of his life breedingthe perfec Gibble (it was really awesome though).
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It took me 2 days to get a Gible with all 31 IVs but 14 in HP.

Also, I think you posted in the wrong board.
 
Porygon_Rulz said:
Hey,

Sorry if this confuses you more but before Ev's there was Iv's.
IV's are slightly more headachey to get than Ev's.
Iv's are what make each individual pokemon almost unique.
Hence Individual Values (IV)
they range from 0~31 with 0 being the lowest and 31 being the highest.
Each stat has its own randomly generated Iv number.
These IV's are preset factors that are built into the pokemon as soon as you meet it (wild battles and even in eggs they are preset).
I think the ratio of IV's is one IV = one stat.
This is only if your seriously going into major comps and stuff cause its soooo time consuming (Im a laxy bum so i dont breed pokemon like crazy)
Plus you have to get the ability and nature right as well as "perfect Iv's"
I know for 1 that my friend spent he last 6 months of his life breedingthe perfec Gibble (it was really awesome though).
Good luck for your team!
Click to expand...

haha yeah, i remember reading stuff about IVs as well and you're right, it's definately more headachey in terms of getting them perfect! i don't think i'd ever have the dedication to breed a pokemon enough times to have all the stats with perfect IVs. congratulations to your friend though, haha. & thanks for the explanation. i'm most likely just going to stick to ev training for a while before i start dabbling in IVs. thanks heaps though. :]
 
ahh okay. yeah, you're probably right. i was just told that this is the forum people mostly discuss ev training and stuff so i figured that people who go in here often would know the most about the questions i was asking.
 
Getting a thread in DP Discussions is also pretty hard, though.
 
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