First of all, hi guys! I found this site from google, and it seems like a cool site. I'm pretty new at pokemon, so I don't know much about competitive battling, though I've read lots of stuff on the internet. I've made my squad using pokemon I like, but I need lots of help with it. Here it is:
Dusknoir @ Expert Belt?
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 HP / 4 Spd?
Nature: Adamant
- Ice Punch
- Earthquake
- Thunderpunch/Pain Split
- Brick Break
My favourite pokemon! It's moves make it super effective against 13 types, so I thought maybe give it the expert belt? Pain Split could be useful once it starts getting worn down...and Thunderpunch is only SE vs 2 types anyway - 1 which is covered by Ice Punch. It's really slow, but it's got good Def and SpDef, so I thought it would be ok. I put it's last 4 points in speed cause I thought I'd be able to go faster than other 45 speed pokemon if they hadn't put theirs in speed.
Scizor @ ???
Trait: Swarm
EVs: 252 HP / 128 Def / 128 SpDef
Nature: Adamant
- X-Scissor
- Sword Dance
- Night Slash/Roost
- Baton Pass
No idea what item to give it, also a bit unsure about the EVs. Thought maybe make it survivable so it can sword dance for a while and maybe baton pass? Roost gives it more time to use Sword Dance, but Night Slash is useful for a lot of types Bug is ineffective against. Both it's Traits are kinda crap, so I just went with swarm.
Arcanine @ ???
Trait: Flash Fire
EVs: ???
Nature: ?
- Extreme Speed
- Crunch
- Flamethrower/Flare Blitz?
- Roar/Thunder Fang?
Again, don't know what item to give it? My main problem is choosing between Flamethrower and Flare Blitz. Flamethrower means I can't take adamant nature, but it doesn't hit with recoil. If I go with Flare Blitz I can go Adamant nature and dump loads of EVs in attack. At the moment not sure where to go with EVs cause of my move problem. Thunder Fang could be handy, but I've not really got any sort of Hazer, which is why I should maybe take Roar?
Tangrowth @ ???
Trait: Chlorophyll
EVs: 252 SpAtk / 252 SpDef / 6 HP
Nature: Modest
- Leaf Storm
- Giga Drain
- Ancient Power
- Shock Wave
Recuring theme of not knowing which item to use... I've got a decent mix of moves - super effective against 7 types so maybe an expert belt? Shock Wave is only there cause I thought it'd be useful to have an 100% accuracy move and it's useful vs Gyarados, but other options are Hidden Power, Sludge Bomb or Focus Blast.
Walrein @ ???
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 252 SpAtk / 128 Def / 128 SpDef
Nature: Modest?
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Signal Beam/Sleep Talk
- Rest
Item...again. Not sure whether to go with Signal Beam or Sleep Talk. On one hand Sleept Talk makes Rest more usable, but Signal Beam gives be a couple of nifty advantages - particularly over Psychic and Dark.
Claydol @ ???
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpAtk / 6 Def
Nature: Modest?
- Earth Power
- Psychic
- Rapid Spin
- Charge Beam/Toxic
Item. I thought to go with Earth Power instead of Earthquake, cause then I could devote EVs and nature towards special attack. Put Rapid Spin in incase there are spikes, and Charge Beam because it helps vs Flying types (especially Skarmory) and Water (if I get a chance to attack). If I happened to get the SpAtk boost that'd be good too. On the other hand Toxic would be handy and more usable than Charge Beam.
I found a list of threats in this thread, so I thought I'd copy it and stick in what I'd use to beat these various pokemon...
Salamence - Dusknoir/Walrein
Tyranitar - Dusknoir/Walrein/Tangrowth
Metagross - Arcanine/Claydol
Dragonite - Dusknoir/Walrein
Heracross - Arcanine
Zapdos - Dusknoir
Gyarados - Dusknoir/Tangrowth?
Garchomp - Dusknoir/Walrein
Starmie - Tangrowth/Dusknoir
Alakazam - Arcanine/Scizor/Walrein?
Gengar - Arcanine/Scizor?
Weavile - Arcanine/Scizor?
Dugtrio - Walrein/Tangrowth/Dusknoir?
Manaphy - Tangrowth/Dusknoir?
Celebi - Arcanine/Scizor/Dusknoir
Blissey - Dusknoir?
Gliscor - Walrein
Rhyperior - Tangrowth/Dusknoir/Walrein?
Jirachi - Claydol/Arcanine/Dusknoir?
Electivire - Claydol/Dusknoir?
Hippowdon - Walrein/Tangrowth/Dusknoir
Suicune - Tangrowth/Dusknoir
Raikou - Claydol/Tangrowth
Snorlax - Dusknoir
Skarmory - Arcanine/Walrein
Azelf - Arcanine/Scizor
Mesprit - Arcanine/Scizor
Cresselia - Arcanine/Scizor
Heatran - Walrein/Claydol/Dusknoir
Lucario - Arcanine/Claydol/Dusknoir
Infernape - Walrein/Claydol/Dusknoir
Staraptor - Dusknoir/Walrein
Swampert - Tangrowth
Milotic - Tangrowth/Dusknoir
Sceptile - Arcanine/Dusknoir/Scizor
Rampardos - Tangrowth/Claydol/Dusknoir
I can't really see any holes with my squad, but I don't really have much experience. Seeing as a lot of my pokes are packing high Def/SpDef/HP I think I can swap my pokemon about quite freely to counter, without too much worry of them getting beaten. I'll be happy for any criticism I get, but I'd like to keep the pokemon that I've chosen. Movesets/Nature/EVs are all obviously open to suggestions. One last thing is that I'm not sure who to start with in battle - any ideas?
Thanks.
Dusknoir @ Expert Belt?
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 HP / 4 Spd?
Nature: Adamant
- Ice Punch
- Earthquake
- Thunderpunch/Pain Split
- Brick Break
My favourite pokemon! It's moves make it super effective against 13 types, so I thought maybe give it the expert belt? Pain Split could be useful once it starts getting worn down...and Thunderpunch is only SE vs 2 types anyway - 1 which is covered by Ice Punch. It's really slow, but it's got good Def and SpDef, so I thought it would be ok. I put it's last 4 points in speed cause I thought I'd be able to go faster than other 45 speed pokemon if they hadn't put theirs in speed.
Scizor @ ???
Trait: Swarm
EVs: 252 HP / 128 Def / 128 SpDef
Nature: Adamant
- X-Scissor
- Sword Dance
- Night Slash/Roost
- Baton Pass
No idea what item to give it, also a bit unsure about the EVs. Thought maybe make it survivable so it can sword dance for a while and maybe baton pass? Roost gives it more time to use Sword Dance, but Night Slash is useful for a lot of types Bug is ineffective against. Both it's Traits are kinda crap, so I just went with swarm.
Arcanine @ ???
Trait: Flash Fire
EVs: ???
Nature: ?
- Extreme Speed
- Crunch
- Flamethrower/Flare Blitz?
- Roar/Thunder Fang?
Again, don't know what item to give it? My main problem is choosing between Flamethrower and Flare Blitz. Flamethrower means I can't take adamant nature, but it doesn't hit with recoil. If I go with Flare Blitz I can go Adamant nature and dump loads of EVs in attack. At the moment not sure where to go with EVs cause of my move problem. Thunder Fang could be handy, but I've not really got any sort of Hazer, which is why I should maybe take Roar?
Tangrowth @ ???
Trait: Chlorophyll
EVs: 252 SpAtk / 252 SpDef / 6 HP
Nature: Modest
- Leaf Storm
- Giga Drain
- Ancient Power
- Shock Wave
Recuring theme of not knowing which item to use... I've got a decent mix of moves - super effective against 7 types so maybe an expert belt? Shock Wave is only there cause I thought it'd be useful to have an 100% accuracy move and it's useful vs Gyarados, but other options are Hidden Power, Sludge Bomb or Focus Blast.
Walrein @ ???
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 252 SpAtk / 128 Def / 128 SpDef
Nature: Modest?
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Signal Beam/Sleep Talk
- Rest
Item...again. Not sure whether to go with Signal Beam or Sleep Talk. On one hand Sleept Talk makes Rest more usable, but Signal Beam gives be a couple of nifty advantages - particularly over Psychic and Dark.
Claydol @ ???
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpAtk / 6 Def
Nature: Modest?
- Earth Power
- Psychic
- Rapid Spin
- Charge Beam/Toxic
Item. I thought to go with Earth Power instead of Earthquake, cause then I could devote EVs and nature towards special attack. Put Rapid Spin in incase there are spikes, and Charge Beam because it helps vs Flying types (especially Skarmory) and Water (if I get a chance to attack). If I happened to get the SpAtk boost that'd be good too. On the other hand Toxic would be handy and more usable than Charge Beam.
I found a list of threats in this thread, so I thought I'd copy it and stick in what I'd use to beat these various pokemon...
Salamence - Dusknoir/Walrein
Tyranitar - Dusknoir/Walrein/Tangrowth
Metagross - Arcanine/Claydol
Dragonite - Dusknoir/Walrein
Heracross - Arcanine
Zapdos - Dusknoir
Gyarados - Dusknoir/Tangrowth?
Garchomp - Dusknoir/Walrein
Starmie - Tangrowth/Dusknoir
Alakazam - Arcanine/Scizor/Walrein?
Gengar - Arcanine/Scizor?
Weavile - Arcanine/Scizor?
Dugtrio - Walrein/Tangrowth/Dusknoir?
Manaphy - Tangrowth/Dusknoir?
Celebi - Arcanine/Scizor/Dusknoir
Blissey - Dusknoir?
Gliscor - Walrein
Rhyperior - Tangrowth/Dusknoir/Walrein?
Jirachi - Claydol/Arcanine/Dusknoir?
Electivire - Claydol/Dusknoir?
Hippowdon - Walrein/Tangrowth/Dusknoir
Suicune - Tangrowth/Dusknoir
Raikou - Claydol/Tangrowth
Snorlax - Dusknoir
Skarmory - Arcanine/Walrein
Azelf - Arcanine/Scizor
Mesprit - Arcanine/Scizor
Cresselia - Arcanine/Scizor
Heatran - Walrein/Claydol/Dusknoir
Lucario - Arcanine/Claydol/Dusknoir
Infernape - Walrein/Claydol/Dusknoir
Staraptor - Dusknoir/Walrein
Swampert - Tangrowth
Milotic - Tangrowth/Dusknoir
Sceptile - Arcanine/Dusknoir/Scizor
Rampardos - Tangrowth/Claydol/Dusknoir
I can't really see any holes with my squad, but I don't really have much experience. Seeing as a lot of my pokes are packing high Def/SpDef/HP I think I can swap my pokemon about quite freely to counter, without too much worry of them getting beaten. I'll be happy for any criticism I get, but I'd like to keep the pokemon that I've chosen. Movesets/Nature/EVs are all obviously open to suggestions. One last thing is that I'm not sure who to start with in battle - any ideas?
Thanks.
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