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First RMT

GoneFishing

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This is going to be my first competitive team, I decided to go with a sun team. I'm sorry if it is a little generic and similar to most peoples team but i tried to be as different as I could, anyway all criticism welcome pls make it constructive criticism.

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Ninetales - Drought
Air Balloon - Timid
252 spA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Fire Blast
Energy Ball
Hidden Power Fighting
Will-O-Wisp

Ninetales will normally be used as a lead depending on what the other persons team looks like anyway as with all sun teams Ninetales is going to be my sun setter. I'm going to use an air ballon on him mostly to avoid entry hazards as well as an immunity to ground moves for a short while. This is a very standard move set I'm making use of the sun and going for Fire Blast over Flamethrower, Energy Ball to be able to damage the other two popular weather inducers Politoad and Tyranitar , I went with HP Fighting so im not walled by Heatran and Will-O-Wisp to cripple walls and sweepers. I was thinking of going for Overheat over Fire Blast since Ninetales is usually a hit and run Pokemon but im not too sure about it.

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Venusaur - Chlorophyll
Black Sludge - Modest
252 SpA / 4 def / 252 Spe
Sunny Day
SolarBeam
Hidden Power Fire
Sleep Powder

Venusaur is a monster is the sun, that being said out of the sun he is ordinary at best which is the main reason i decided to go with a set that is a little more supporting than it is attacking, the good thing with this set is that it can also set up someone else's sweep with the use sleep powder putting a key member of my opponents sleep, I put Sunny Day on this set for the reason that if my Ninetales dies then I'm in a bad position but with sunny day I don't necessarily need her plus i don't have to switch in and risk Ninetales as much with sunny day on Venusaur. I went with SolarBeam over Energy Ball just because of the reason that SolarBeam is much stronger and doesn't need two turns in the sun and HP Fire gets a decent power boost in the sun and hits most of his common checks, I used Black Sludge because i wanted leftovers on Heatran if there is a better choice pls tell me. I'm not sure if i should put Sludge Bomb somewhere in there to be able to put some damage Dragons and other Fire Pokemon

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Starmie - Natural Cure
Life Orb - Timid
252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Hydro Pump
Ice Beam
Thunder Bolt
Rapid Spin

I know…. Starmie in Sun is probably a stupid option when there are others like Donphan but Starmie is quite important in this team other than the obvious need of a Rapid Spinner I needed a reliable check to Pokemon like Landorus, Gliscor and most Dragon Pokemon I also needed a Pokemon who can operate in the rain effectively. This is a standard set for Starmie, Rapid Spin for those entry hazards, I was gonna go with Psychic instead of Hydro Pump because in the sun water moves are crappy but i realised whilst testing that i needed to be able to use the rain if it is up and thunderbolt is too also be able to deal some to rain teams and for general coverage.

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Dragonite - Multiscale
Lum Berry - Adamant
252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Dragon Dance
Dragon Claw
Fire Punch
Extreme Speed

Again another Pokemon who doesn't necessarily abuse the sun but is very important on the team I need something that can deal damage to Landorus and other Dragons. Im using an offensive Dragon Dance set, so Dragon Dance is used to boost his stats up, I went with Dragon Claw over Outrage just because i hate using Outrage i don't like being locked into the one move but that being said if it is heaps better i'll change it. Fire Punch gets a decent power boost in the sun and I'm able to damage steel types and Extreme Speed for priority and it's able to beat Landorus and faster threats,

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Heatran - Flash Fire
Leftovers - Calm
248 Hp / 252 SpD / 8 Spe
Lava Plume
Stealth Rock
Earth Power
Will-O-Wisp/Roar

Heatran is my one of my two checks to other Heatran's this is why i've gone with a specially defensive moveset and it is also the reason i needed to use Earth Power rather than Protect or Roar. I used Lava Plume for the fact that there is a 30% burn chance which is the reason i not sure whether to go with WoW or Roar, Stealth Rock because every team needs an entry hazard to build up some damage and as said before i need Earth Power to deal with the threat of other Heatrans.

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Infernape - Blaze
Choice Scarf - Hasty
108 Atk / 148 SpA / 252 Spe
Close Combat
Fire Blast
Hidden Power Ice
U - Turn

I really needed a fast revenge killer and someone can take out Heatran, Tyranitar, Terrakion I thought Infernape is the best option I did however have a lot of trouble picking between him and Volcarona and to be honest im still not sure but i think he is the best just for the reason i need a check against Tyranitar I'm going to use Close Combat as it easily beats Tyranitar and it is a strong STAB, Fire Blast again as a strong STAB i prefer to use this over Flare Blitz because of the recoil damage. HP Ice to deal with Gliscor but im considering Stone Edge to get rid of Volcarona and U - Turn for Scouting Purposes.

So this is my first competitive team, I'm sorry if it is generic and similar to others teams, I put a lot of thought in to it that being said it probably isn't the best and all criticism is welcome.


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I know you said why you have Sunny Day on your Venusaur, but I would replace it with Synthesis. It can help keep Venusaur alive longer. Also, put a Life Orb on him instead of Black Sludge. He can hit a lot harder and you can heal the recoil damage with Synthesis. Also, on your Infernape, I wouldn't run a Scarf on him because he is already fast enough, I would change it with a Focus Sash, because he can't take hits too well. Just my thoughts.
 
This is going to be my first competitive team, I decided to go with a sun team. I'm sorry if it is a little generic and similar to most peoples team but i tried to be as different as I could, anyway all criticism welcome pls make it constructive criticism.

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Ninetales - Drought
lefties - Timid
252 spA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Fire Blast
sunny day
solarbeam

Will-O-Wisp

Ninetales will normally be used as a lead depending on what the other persons team looks like anyway as with all sun teams Ninetales is going to be my sun setter. I'm going to use an air ballon on him mostly to avoid entry hazards as well as an immunity to ground moves for a short while. This is a very standard move set I'm making use of the sun and going for Fire Blast over Flamethrower, Energy Ball to be able to damage the other two popular weather inducers Politoad and Tyranitar , I went with HP Fighting so im not walled by Heatran and Will-O-Wisp to cripple walls and sweepers. I was thinking of going for Overheat over Fire Blast since Ninetales is usually a hit and run Pokemon but im not too sure about it.

in my opinion the best tales set, sunny day for when toed switches in, WoW for tar, rest is basic

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Venusaur - Chlorophyll
Black Sludge - Modest
252 SpA / 4 def / 252 Spe
Sunny Day
SolarBeam
Hidden Power Fire
Sleep Powder/earthquake/sludge bomb

Venusaur is a monster is the sun, that being said out of the sun he is ordinary at best which is the main reason i decided to go with a set that is a little more supporting than it is attacking, the good thing with this set is that it can also set up someone else's sweep with the use sleep powder putting a key member of my opponents sleep, I put Sunny Day on this set for the reason that if my Ninetales dies then I'm in a bad position but with sunny day I don't necessarily need her plus i don't have to switch in and risk Ninetales as much with sunny day on Venusaur. I went with SolarBeam over Energy Ball just because of the reason that SolarBeam is much stronger and doesn't need two turns in the sun and HP Fire gets a decent power boost in the sun and hits most of his common checks, I used Black Sludge because i wanted leftovers on Heatran if there is a better choice pls tell me. I'm not sure if i should put Sludge Bomb somewhere in there to be able to put some damage Dragons and other Fire Pokemon

liking the second sun, you may want another attack or growth to help him sweep

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Starmie - Natural Cure
Life Orb - Timid
252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Hydro Pump
Ice Beam
Thunder Bolt
Rapid Spin

I know…. Starmie in Sun is probably a stupid option when there are others like Donphan but Starmie is quite important in this team other than the obvious need of a Rapid Spinner I needed a reliable check to Pokemon like Landorus, Gliscor and most Dragon Pokemon I also needed a Pokemon who can operate in the rain effectively. This is a standard set for Starmie, Rapid Spin for those entry hazards, I was gonna go with Psychic instead of Hydro Pump because in the sun water moves are crappy but i realised whilst testing that i needed to be able to use the rain if it is up and thunderbolt is too also be able to deal some to rain teams and for general coverage.

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Dragonite - Multiscale
Lum Berry - Adamant
252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Dragon Dance
Dragon Claw
Fire Punch
Extreme Speed

Again another Pokemon who doesn't necessarily abuse the sun but is very important on the team I need something that can deal damage to Landorus and other Dragons. Im using an offensive Dragon Dance set, so Dragon Dance is used to boost his stats up, I went with Dragon Claw over Outrage just because i hate using Outrage i don't like being locked into the one move but that being said if it is heaps better i'll change it. Fire Punch gets a decent power boost in the sun and I'm able to damage steel types and Extreme Speed for priority and it's able to beat Landorus and faster threats,

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Heatran - Flash Fire
Leftovers - Calm
248 Hp / 252 SpD / 8 Spe
Lava Plume
Stealth Rock
Earth Power
Will-O-Wisp/Roar

Heatran is my one of my two checks to other Heatran's this is why i've gone with a specially defensive moveset and it is also the reason i needed to use Earth Power rather than Protect or Roar. I used Lava Plume for the fact that there is a 30% burn chance which is the reason i not sure whether to go with WoW or Roar, Stealth Rock because every team needs an entry hazard to build up some damage and as said before i need Earth Power to deal with the threat of other Heatrans.

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Infernape - Blaze
Choice Scarf - naive
108 Atk / 148 SpA / 252 Spe
Close Combat
Fire Blast
Hidden Power Ice
U - Turn

I really needed a fast revenge killer and someone can take out Heatran, Tyranitar, Terrakion I thought Infernape is the best option I did however have a lot of trouble picking between him and Volcarona and to be honest im still not sure but i think he is the best just for the reason i need a check against Tyranitar I'm going to use Close Combat as it easily beats Tyranitar and it is a strong STAB, Fire Blast again as a strong STAB i prefer to use this over Flare Blitz because of the recoil damage. HP Ice to deal with Gliscor but im considering Stone Edge to get rid of Volcarona and U - Turn for Scouting Purposes.

So this is my first competitive team, I'm sorry if it is generic and similar to others teams, I put a lot of thought in to it that being said it probably isn't the best and all criticism is welcome.


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honestly sun isnt a good first team, i have been doing it for awhile and i still have trouble. As far as sun teams go, this is good, however, scarfed moxiemence plows through this team, as well as latios, only counter to toed is starmie as ice beam is a 2hko on saur i think, Ttar, theres ape, but he fails against scarfed tar/chople tar and hippowdon, lastly scarfed landorus and terrakion are major threats
i suggest donphan/slowbro and very careful play
 
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