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Frontier Issues...again...

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The Composer

The Composer
Okay, here is my team for the Dome:

Metagross@Lum Berry
Adamant
152 HP/252 ATK/104 SpD

Agility
Earthquake
Meteor Mash
Explosion

BRILLIANT. I'll think about other sweepers (NOT MENCE! I HATE Mence!), but I actually really like my Meta. Agility, then sweep. Explosion is basically how I end all of my battles in the dome. Kill what comes out first, explode on what comes out next. It's really awesome.

Starmie@Lax Incense (I know, I need a different item. Scope Lens maybe? Not lefties though)
Hardy (I know. I'm raising a modest one)
252 Sp. ATK/252 SPD/6 Sp. DEF

Thunderbolt
Ice Beam
Psychic
Surf

This does it's job to a "T". Brilliant Special Sweeper and does wonders cleaning up if Meta is ko'd. I don't use recover because of it's defenses being so weak, so I really just didn't see the need for it.

Latios@Leftovers
Bashful (No shot at getting a new one unless I restart. Which I really don't want to and it's IV's make for any deficiency in it's nature)
6 HP/252 Sp. ATK/252 Spd

Safeguard
Calm Mind
Recover
Dragon Claw

Incredible Sweeper...esque...thing. It doesn't go down at for hardly anything (what with Calm Mind+Safeguard+Recover) and Dragon Claw has no immunities. The only think I switch out for is steel, which Meta handles easily (unless it's Skarm, in which case I would be using Starmie).

Anyone notice the problem with this team? A HUGE, GLARING weakness to Ghost, Bug and Dark. Meta cancels it out, but it's still neutral damage and he's not invincible. I need a replacement suggestion for one of my Special Sweepers (preferably Starmie. I'm willing to change movesets -possibly- for Latios, but it has WAY better stats than Starmie all around and a thunder resistance that is useful for Meta's neutrality to it.). Anyway, yeah. I got to the ninth round and got shattered by a Claydol. It wasn't great.

In the Pyramid/Pyke, instead of Latios (need Starmie's Natural Cure), I use:

Miltank@Leftovers
Modest (I know, I'm just too lazy to catch a good one)
252 HP and the rest is evenly split between DEF and Sp. DEF

Seismic Toss
Milk Drink
Heal Bell
???? (Don't know really...)

Very, VERY good cleric (I have access to Blissey, but I don't really like it. I'd prefer no Blissey suggestions, but if you have some brilliant reason why I should use it, I'm all ears). Saved my...behind...loads of times in the Pyramid and goes well with the typing of the other two. I just don't know what to use for it's last move.

So, any suggestions? I would love any help I can get!

Thanks in advance,

Iareto
 
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Can Miltank learn Shadow Ball? If so, that's definitely what should go in the last slot, so you can hit Ghosts. Though it would be much better if you could get Adamant, Impish or Careful or something. Modest is one of the worst natures for it.

Other than that, looks good, especially once you get a better Starmie.
 
Yeah...I really don't WANT to get a new Miltank, but it's looking like the only option here. Thanks for the compliment. Any ideas for a different sweeper?
 
metagross:its ok. i would prefer lefties on it. i would usually put shadow ball/rock slide on metagross since its defence makes up for its lost of speed but yours is ok, its just helpless against some pokemon(like skarmory) but your starmie helps to deal with them.

starmie:get lum berry. scope lens would be your second choice. well its pretty standard and pretty effective.

latios:its is pretty ok too. i dont really like safeguard but it seems fine. you can replace it with t-bolt if you want some change.

the ghost weakness is why i use salamence as my last member instead of latios when i battle in frontier(my default team is starmie, metagross, mence). since you hate mence, get

you can try:
dugtrio@scope lens
eq
rock slide
aerial ace
sludge bomb
well...frail but powerful.

for pike i use this blissey(not sure about pyramid since i rarely go there):
aromatherapy
softboiled
seismic toss
toxic
the strategy is simple, get starmie with scope lens, blissey with lefties and metagross with lum berry. avoid battles as much as possible and charge into status rooms as much as possible. nature cure heals starmie from status in battles, blissey heals the team from status with aromatherapy and metagross' is resistant to poison and lum berry heals everything else. blissey's softboiled is used out of battle to heal your other pokemon and used in battle to heal herself back. just put starmie as your starter try not to get blissey into battle unless its for using aromatherapy or its against a special sweeper.

miltank works too but i still like blissey.
miltank@leftovers
heal bell
milk drink
shadow ball
seismic toss
covers all type combinations and still works as a cleric
 
Well, I also have a Flygon that looks like:

Flygon@CB
Adamant
EV's in ATK/HP/SPD (forgot how much in each...)

Earthquake
Rockslide
Fire Blast
??? (HP was fighting, so I'm not sure I should keep it)

Would that work? I wish it could learn Shadow Ball, but maybe I'll just see how Crunch fares...
 
I'm not sure you need a different sweeper...Agiligross kills loads of stuff, and can take a hit pretty well with 130 base defense and all. Flygon just seems like taking a step back to me.

@Magax: Lum Berry is unecessary on Starmie as it has Natural Cure to help with status.
 
Irith_Locke said:
I'm not sure you need a different sweeper...Agiligross kills loads of stuff, and can take a hit pretty well with 130 base defense and all. Flygon just seems like taking a step back to me.

@Magax: Lum Berry is unecessary on Starmie as it has Natural Cure to help with status.
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I meant as opposed to Latios (whom I could teach the same moveset as Starmie and his Sp. Attack is 80 points higher with equal speed) or Starmie so that I would have something to use against ghosts.
 
Ah. Hmmm...Drop Starmie if you're going to lose one, but maybe keep Starmie around for the Pyramid and/or Pike. Latios is an easier switch-in than Starmie, especially having recovery moves and Levitate.
Honestly, I think getting a good-natured Miltank and replacing Starmie would be preferable, just so you have a wall/tank thing. I'd say it's better to stick in something more defensively oriented in the final slot, just for the sake of balance in your team. I think having 3 sweepers is unneeded.
 
lum berry on starmie=waste 1 of your opponent's turn for using status move, giving you a chance to kill off your opponent instead of wasting a turn on switching. do not rely on nature cure too much unless its battle pike or pyramid.

i dont really like flygon with sp atk due to its rather low sp atk stat. i cant think of any good sweeper that you can use(alakazam is out since it is also psychic), maybe a regice can work well both offensively and defensively. slaking can be useful too as a ghost counter but its truant ability is a huge problem.
 
If your looking for a Tank/Wall over Starmie, try a Swampert Maybe. You really don't have good type coverage if you take out Starmie.
 
Okay, I am using a Slaking that I ONLY send in to fight Ghost/Claydol Pokemon now. He is awesome! Thanks for your help everyone!
 
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