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interesting

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magnemiteZ

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quite stealable team up for grabs.


click the pictures for showdown.
interactive RMT!!!




Raikou @ Leftovers ** Yellow Dogs
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 28 Spd / 92 SAtk / 136 SDef
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Thunder
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Rest
- Sleep Talk

Leads and draws out Blissey/Lax/Ice Man Turn 1!
I swap straight to Machamp to see what the counters for it are.
either that or straight to rhydon.




Machamp (M) @ Choice Band ** Strong People
Trait: Guts
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Cross Chop
- Hidden Power [Ghost]
- Rock Slide
- Double-Edge

hi there, I GG.
Max Speed because I don't like Suicune.
HP Ghost for Dusclops, who seems to be everywhere.




Claydol @ Leftovers ** Clay dolly
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 236 HP / 52 Atk / 136 Def / 4 Spd / 36 SAtk / 44 SDef
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Toxic
- Rapid Spin
- Psychic

Weezing counter as well as gengar. Toxic's the swampert switch in, and spinz.
tyranitar hates this thing.




Milotic (M) @ Leftovers ** Pink Snake
Trait: Marvel Scale
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Surf
- Toxic
- Rest
- Sleep Talk

I didn't call it purple snake because I'm clever like that.




Rhydon (M) @ Leftovers ** Rock People
Trait: Rock Head
EVs: 212 HP / 16 Atk / 180 Def / 100 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Swords Dance
- Substitute
- Rock Slide
- Earthquake

leet.
rock/normal/fly resist. Likes salamence's support.




Salamence (M) @ Leftovers ** Silly Dragons
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 212 HP / 136 Def / 136 Spd / 16 SAtk / 8 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Wish
- Dragon Claw
- Fire Blast
- Substitute

SUBMENCE.


gogogo
 
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erm, what do you do against an opposing raikou?

Regice and other boltbeamers can also be a ***** for this team
 
hmm. the only thing on this team I don't really need is salamence. it is just there for a little support.

I could put something over that. eh.
something like a wish bliss to counter raikou.

other than that, raikou will outstall any bolt beamer. and with stalk, it doesn't go down.
 
more like mence is there so that Heracross doesn't **** on this

Steelix can go over rhydon so you don't lose fly/normal resist and to counter kou, but you lose a shitload of offense
 
Originally posted by Fighting_Master
Leads and draws out Blissey/Lax/Ice Man Turn 1!
I swap straight to Machamp to see what the counters for it are.
either that or straight to rhydon.
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If you want to do that, I would suggest using

Jolteon (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Volt Absorb
EVs: 4 Def / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Baton Pass
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

It would work better, because Jolteon would draw out Blissey, Snorlax, and Regice, just like Raikou would. But here's the nice part: If you Baton Pass the first turn, you get to see if your opponent will actually switch to Blissey, Snorlax, or Regice (because Baton Pass goes after switching). However, if they don't switch to their special sponge, you'll have realized it, and can switch to something that can resist what your opponent will do. You can use Zapdos for this purpose, but Jolteon with Hidden Power Grass outspeeds everything you might see as a starter except Ninjask.
 
Originally posted by Suica
Problem is. Jolteon sucks.
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Not really. As I mentioned, the Jolteon I listed above has the fastest speed of anything used competitively, except Nijask, and has a 110 base Sp.Atk. If not Jolteon, Zapdos could be used for the same purpose, and you can't say that Zapdos "sucks".
 
And his Raikou is the only thing that absorbs sleep , and is the only thing that takes special attacks.
 
err, I somehow forgot why mence was there. cool.
well, I wasn't very sober at the time of writing that post.

If you want to do that, I would suggest using

Jolteon (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Volt Absorb
EVs: 4 Def / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Baton Pass
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

It would work better, because Jolteon would draw out Blissey, Snorlax, and Regice, just like Raikou would. But here's the nice part: If you Baton Pass the first turn, you get to see if your opponent will actually switch to Blissey, Snorlax, or Regice (because Baton Pass goes after switching). However, if they don't switch to their special sponge, you'll have realized it, and can switch to something that can resist what your opponent will do. You can use Zapdos for this purpose, but Jolteon with Hidden Power Grass outspeeds everything you might see as a starter except Ninjask.
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listen, kid.
have you even looked at what Raikou does on this team?
It walls Gengar cold. It walls all water types except swampert. It walls all electric pokemon. Beats pretty much every common lead, and will force the odd pert leads out because they'll be scared of HP Leaves. beats almost every special sweeper.
And his Raikou is the only thing that absorbs sleep
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Milotic ~_^
 
Originally posted by Fighting_Master
Leads and draws out Blissey/Lax/Ice Man Turn 1!
I swap straight to Machamp to see what the counters for it are.
either that or straight to rhydon
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Tis the only reason I suggested Jolteon. In all other aspects, yes I agree, Raikou is better for your team.
 
originally posted by Viper SRT-10
then why the hell did you suggest it?
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I suggested Jolteon over Raikou because Fighting_Master's said one of his strategies was going to be:
(Raikou) Leads and draws out Blissey/Lax/Ice Man Turn 1!
I swap straight to Machamp to see what the counters for it are.
either that or straight to rhydon.
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I thought Jolteon would be better for this purpose, because Jolteon would draw out Blissey/Lax/Ice Man similar to how Raikou would. But because Jolteon could use Baton Pass, one could tell before they'd "switch" whether their opponent was actually switching to Blissey/Lax/Ice Man and act accordingly. If Fighting_Master switched Raikou to Machamp right away, but the opponent did something entirely different, Machamp could be severly injured, and Fighting_Master would be down early on.
Also, the only difference in the movesets between Jolteon and Raikou is Baton Pass for Jolteon and Sleep Talk for Raikou. Because Milotic can absorb sleep, Fighting_Master wouldn't be losing anything by switching to Jolteon.
Originally posted by Fighting_Master
(Raikou) Beats pretty much every common lead
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Salamence? Aerodactyl (whom Jolteon outspeeds)?
 
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