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Move set help please?

Just wondering whether these movesets are okay. I'm feeling a bit iffy about them. I'm not really into the whole Nature thing, more into balanced moves, but if they're absolutely needed then I'll add them.
My Platinum team.


Giratina ;487;

Timid [Pressure]

-Fly
-Earthquake
-Dragon Claw
-Shadow Force



Lopunny ;428;

Brave [Cute Charm]

-Fire Punch
-Jump Kick
-Return
-Bounce



Froslass ;478;

Impish [Snow Cloak]

-Headbutt (Psychic or Shadow Ball?)
-Thunderbolt
-Ice Beam
-Crunch



Empoleon ;395;

Sassy [Torrent]

-Waterfall
-Flash Cannon
-Surf
-Drill Peck

I'm thinking of relpacing one of those water moves, but I can't choose which one or which move to replace it with.


Gliscor ;472;

Quirky [Hyper Cutter]

-Swords Dance
-Aerial Ace
-X-Scissor
-Poison Jab



Roserade ;407;

Rash [Poison Point]

-Giga Drain
-Magical Leaf
-Toxic
-Aromatherapy

I really want to replace those last two moves, but I'm not with what. Energy Ball is an option, but I haven't got past the Elite 4, so I can't get the TM until the Battle Frontier.

Thanks very much!
 
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yeah
but waterfall can cause flinching which buys you another attack

Only if Empoleon outspeeds the opponent. With a speed decreasing nature and with natural horrid speed stat, Empoleon won't be outspeeding much.

Your best bet is to get rid of Waterfall because Surf is stronger and Empoleon has a higher Special Attack stat.
 
Just wondering whether these movesets are okay. I'm feeling a bit iffy about them. I'm not really into the whole Nature thing, more into balanced moves, but if they're absolutely needed then I'll add them.
My Platinum team.


Giratina ;487;

Timid [Pressure]

-Aura Sphere / Earth Power
-Dragon Pulse
-Shadow Ball
-Thunderbolt / Earth Power



Lopunny ;428;

Adamant [Cute Charm]

-Ice Punch
-Jump Kick
-Return
-Thunderpunch



Froslass ;478;

Timid [Snow Cloak]

-Shadow Ball
-Thunderbolt
-Ice Beam
-Destiny Bond / Signal Beam



Empoleon ;395;

Modest [Torrent]

-Agility
-Grass Knot
-Surf
-Ice Beam

I'm thinking of relpacing one of those water moves, but I can't choose which one or which move to replace it with.


Gliscor ;472;

Impish [Hyper Cutter]

-Swords Dance
-Earthquake
-X-Scissor / Roost
-Ice Fang



Roserade ;407;

Timid [Poison Point]

-Energy Ball / Grass Knot
-Shadow Ball
-Sludge Bomb
-Synthesis / Hidden Power [Fire] / Filler

I really want to replace those last two moves, but I'm not with what. Energy Ball is an option, but I haven't got past the Elite 4, so I can't get the TM until the Battle Frontier.

Thanks very much!

Changes in CYAN. If you do not like a suggestion, don't take it, just ignore it, I'm here to help you, not to get flamed for giving advice like i've seen before... >_>
 
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