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Need CONSTRUCTIVE criticism, please

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Valonus88

Creation= Evolution
Okay, a team I have on Diamond. I didnt really porposely try to EV train them.And at the time I wasn't looking for any specific natures. What I'm wanting to know is if they seem like a decent team for competive gaming, if not, whats wrong with them. BTW, I'm thinking that this is not to great of a team, but I like 'em anyway:

Drifblim@Leftovers
Serious
-Baton Pass
-Shadow Ball
-Substitute
-Charge Beam

Torterra@Leftovers
Lax
-Roar
-Sandstorm
-Stealth Rock
-Leech Seed

Dragonite@Persim Berry (for Outrage)
Hardy
-Substitute
-Outrage
-Thunderbolt
-Roost

Togekiss@Life Orb(is there something better? Think about his moveset)
Timid
-Yawn
-Shadow Ball
-Dream Eater
-Fireblast

Metagross@Zoom Lens
Gentle
-Psychic
-Meteor Mash
-Magnet Rise
-Sludge Bomb (something better? Needs to be no-where-near his type)

Tyranitar@Soft Sand (suggest something better, please)
Gentle
-Thrash
-Earthquake
-Crunch
-Fire Blast (Yes, stone Edge would be better, but I haven't earned up the Bp yet)

Thanks in advance!
 
Don't try to use this in competitive if you want to win. Make sure you breed to gain good natures, such as adamant on tyranitar and metagross. Tyranitar also doesn't really fit well with the team. For metagross, run something like this:
Metagross@leftovers
Adamant
Agility
Meteor Mash
Earthquake
Thunderpunch

Togekiss@leftovers
Modest
Air Slash
Aura Sphere
Thunder Wave
Roost

Dragonite@life orb/leftovers
Adamant
Dragon Dance
Outrage
Earthquake
Fire Blast

There's a few other movesets for you. Make sure you EV train as well, it will really help.
 
hmm... why agility on Metagross, could I instead just have him hold quick claw? And whats wrong w/ Togekiss having Yawn and Dream Eater? Is it to slow? Thanks for the advice.
 
Quick Claw is a horrible item. Relying on a 10% chance of something happining is never a good idea.

As for Yawn + Dream Eater, imagine this situation.

Togekiss used Yawn
XXX felt Drowsy.

At this point they'll likely switch anyway. But if they go asleep.

XXX switched out for YYY
Togekiss used Dream Eater
But it Failed...

And since theres a thing called Sleep Clause you've used your only available Sleep and Dream Eater has been rendered useless.

Anything that isnt a restalker switches out when its asleep unless its perfectly safe to have him stay in and try to wake up. So by using Dream Eater you waste a turn.

I suggest you learn A LOT more about competetive battling first. These movesets are seriously AWFUL. I mean, you have Torterra using Sandstorm when you have TTar. You have Metagross using Sludge Bomb, and i've already mentioned Dream Eater.

Oh, and on TTar, he learns Stone Edge by level up. Use a Heart Scale / Level him.
 
Yeah, didn't think about that thing with yawn, huh...
Well, thanks anyway.
 
if you want to do CB then evs are a necesity, and poison is a rubbish offensive type
 
Valonus88 said:
hmm... why agility on Metagross, could I instead just have him hold quick claw? And whats wrong w/ Togekiss having Yawn and Dream Eater? Is it to slow? Thanks for the advice.
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Agillity on Metagross to make it a very good sweeper. No Quick Claw cause since it's a Luck Item and most of the battlers don't want luck items.

Yawn+Dream Eater is a horrible idea because Yawn is used to let the opponent switch. And also if you let the opponent sleep he/she will switch because of sleep.
 
Driftblim doesn't really need Baton Pass if it doesn't have any stat-changing moves
 
yeah give dirifblim a berry so you can unburden pass instead
and natures are screwed up
 
seems more in-game
 
Driftblim doesn't really need Baton Pass if it doesn't have any stat-changing moves
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What is Charge Beam?

yeah give dirifblim a berry so you can unburden pass instead
and natures are screwed up
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You seriously need to stop repeating what others have already said and call it a rate, also Unburden's effect cannot be BPed


Quick Claw is also banned competitively iirc

@ thread owner, listen to Aquasuicune and Musthavename, take their advise and edit your 1st post with their suggestions

As for my suggesions, ill help you with Togekiss

Togekiss @ Leftovers/ Metronome
Modest Nature
Ability: Serene Grace
- Thunder Wave
- Wish/ Roost
- Aura Sphere
- Air Slash

This set abuses the 60% flinch rate with serene grace, T-wave is so you can go 1st to be able to flinch in the 1st place, and Roost/Wish to restore HP, Aura Sphere to hit Rock and Steel types

Also I would lose TTar altogether, Sand Stream doesnt help half your team, replace it with a poke who can take special hits

Torterra and Dragonite on the same team also doesnt help that much, they both have a 4X weakness to Ice attacks, not to mention Drifblim and Togekiss are also weak to it as well, take Torterra for off for a better physical wall, he simply cannot wall effectively
 
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