Quick help!

[kab0592]

I changed my post for you to help me in my final decision!

OK I've finally decided 3 Pokémon:
-Houndoom: Flamethrower, Dark Pulse, Nasty Plot, Will-o-Wisp
-Gyarados: Waterfall, Ice Fang, Earthquake. Dragon Dance
-Roserade: Energy Ball, Sludge Bomb, Shadow Ball, Stun Spore/Leech Seed/Grasswhistle/Toxic/Synthesis (Help with the last move)

Then I can't decide between:
-Espeon: Psychic, Grass Knot, Shadow Ball, Calm Mind
-Alakazam: Psychic, Shadow Ball, Energy Ball/Focus Blast/Recover/Calm Mind

And then, for my other 2 Pokémon, I have 3 possible combinations:
-Scizor+Electivire
-Scizor+Garchomp
-Garchomp+Electivire

Their movesets will be:

Scizor: Bullet Punch, X-Scissor, Brick Break, Swords Dance
Garchomp: Earthquake, Dragon Claw, Swords Dance, Fire Fang/Fire Blast/Stone Edge
Electivire: Thunderpunch, Ice Punch, Earthquake, Cross Chop/Brick Break (Is Meditate worthy?)

Thank you for helping me!!!
P.S: This is 100% in-game. so PLEASE no egg moves, Hidden Powers, EVs, natures, held items, or baton pass sets.

 

[Arsel]

Houndoom (Timid)@Wise Glasses
Flashfire
-Flamethrower
-Dark Pulse
-Nasty Plot
-Will-o-Wisp

Gyarados (Adamant)@Life OrbIntimidate
-Waterfall
-Dragon Dance
-Ice Fang
-Stone Edge

Those are the sets I'm using and they work fine.
I think you should go with Mismagius since it's immune to 3 types.

Mismagius@Wise Glasses/Life Orb/Expert Belt
Timid
-Calm Mind
-Shadow Ball
-HP [Fighting]
-ThunderBolt

Personally, I'd go with Scizor, because of its higher attack and better defenses. Make sure that you have the Technician ability.

 

[Escape Reality]

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I finally got my Platinum so I am at the point of deciding my party.
I have
Houndoom (Timid)@life orb/leftovers
Flashfire
-Flamethrower
-Dark Pulse
-Nasty Plot <--- nice! i like your thinking. if you can get in a few nasty plots, houndoom will soon pose a big threat to your opponent.
-will-o-wisp

i'm assuming houndoom will be used as a special atk. sweeper, in which case, will-o-wisp will slow down any physical attackers.

Gyarados (Adamant)@leftovers
Intimidate
-Waterfall
-Dragon Dance
-Ice Fang/Stone Edge/Earthquake
-Ice Fang/Stone Edge/Earthquake

i don't see any real need for stone edge, but ice fang to take out grass types and earthquake for electric types.

Roserade (Timid/Modest)@Whatever
Natural Cure
-Energy Ball
-Sludge Bomb
-toxic/toxic spikes
-hidden power fire/sleep powder

toxic to slow your opponent down or if roserade is in your lead, then toxic spikes to poison your opponents pokemon that are switching in. hidden power fire in case you're up against a steel type which wouldn't be affected by toxic/toxic spikes. or sleep powder to give yourself some breathing room if you need to heal/switch pokemon.

Mamoswine (Adamant/Jolly)@Whatever
Whatever
-Ice Shard
-Earthquake
-stone edge/protect?
-stealth rock (if this is your lead)/super power

jolly nature is better because then you have a better chance to out run neutral natured fighting pokemon like lucario, giving you the chance to take it out. stone edge is used for gyrados which you will come across a good amount of times during the game. super power will be most handy against lucian's bronzong which resists (or immune to) mamoswine's other attacks. in the mean time, you could use stealth rock if this'll be your lead.

NOW THIS IS THE REAL DEAL....

I have to choose between:
1. Gardevoir: Psychic, will-o-wisp, Wish, thunderbolt/focus blast/shadow ball
2. Mismagius: Shadow Ball, Calm Mind, energy ball/thunderbolt, hidden power fighting
3. Espeon: Calm Mind/fake tears, Psychic, hidden power fighting, signal beam


gardevior modest w/trace @ leftovers
better used as a support than a sweeper in which case you could teach it will-o-wisp, wish, psychic, thunderbolt/focus blast/shadow ball
OR
modest w/trace @ light clay
reflect, light screen, healing wish/memento, psychic/will-o-wisp/taunt
but i personally prefer the first move set.

espeon timid @ light clay
although espeon can take a few hits if it's not a super effective attack, i find that it's not as good as good as mismagius. but if you choose to use it, since you have two sweepers, you may want to consider it for another support:
reflect, light screen, wish, psychic
but if you want another sweeper:
timid @ leftovers
psychic, hidden power fighting, fake tears/calm mind, signal beam

mismagius levitate @ timid/modest with leftovers/shell bell
has a lot of power, so a good choice if you're looking for another sweeper.
energy ball/thunderbolt, shadow ball, hidden power fighting, calm mind

energy ball is good against quagsire and other ground and water types. thunderbolt is also good against water and flying types and will prove well against cynthia's milotic and togekiss. so either way it's up to you which you want to use.

AND:

1. Lucario adamant w/inner focus@ focus sash: Close Combat, Swords Dance, Ice Punch, Extremespeed
2. Scizor adamant w/techniciam @ life orb: Swords Dance, Brick Break, X Scissor/roost, Bullet Punch

i personally prefer lucario because it can deal out more damage. or so i've experienced anyway. if you choose lucario, i'd recommend an adamant nature. and since lucario is naturally good in sp. atk. the phys. atk. may level out... :\ but i'm not sure about this, as i've only had tried and worked with my charizard.

Please notice that this is In Game, so not Baton Pass or choice items or EVs... this is for fun!)

changes and such in bold
i like leftovers.

 

[kab0592]

Thank you both!
I've finally decide to go with Scizor (Swords Dance, X-Scissor, Brick Break, Bullet Punch)

The next thing I have to decide are:
-Jolly or Adamant AND Stone Edge or Earthquake on Gyarados (Waterfall, Ice Fang, Dragon Dance, Earthquake/Stone Edge).
-Special Sweeper #2:
·Alakazam (Psychic, Shadow Ball/Calm Mind, Energy Ball/Calm Mind, Focus Blast/Calm Mind)
·Mismagius (Shadow Ball, Calm Mind, Thunderbolt, ???)
·Gardevoir (Psychic, Calm Mind, Focus Blast/Shadow Ball/Thunderbolt/Thunder Wave/Will-o-Wisp)
·Espeon (Psychic, Shadow Ball, Grass Knot, Calm Mind)

(PLEASEEE DON'T SUGGEST HIDDEN POWERS (AS I'M TOO LAZY FOR GETTING THEM) OR SUPERPOWER/SIGNAL BEAM (AS THIS IS A PRE-ELITE FOUR TEAM)).

 

[Escape Reality]

Thank you both!
I've finally decide to go with Scizor (Swords Dance, X-Scissor, Brick Break, Bullet Punch)

The next thing I have to decide are:
-Jolly or Adamant AND Stone Edge or Earthquake on Gyarados (Waterfall, Ice Fang, Dragon Dance, Earthquake/Stone Edge).
-Special Sweeper #2:
·Alakazam (Psychic, Shadow Ball/Calm Mind, Energy Ball/Calm Mind, Focus Blast/Calm Mind)
·Mismagius (Shadow Ball, Calm Mind, Thunderbolt, ???)
·Gardevoir (Psychic, Calm Mind, Focus Blast/Shadow Ball/Thunderbolt/Thunder Wave/Will-o-Wisp)
·Espeon (Psychic, Shadow Ball, Grass Knot, Calm Mind)

(PLEASEEE DON'T SUGGEST HIDDEN POWERS (AS I'M TOO LAZY FOR GETTING THEM) OR SUPERPOWER/SIGNAL BEAM (AS THIS IS A PRE-ELITE FOUR TEAM)).

gyrados:
i'd go for adamant, because gyrados can usually get in the first hit in singles or second in doubles. and go for earthquake because it can get rid of pesky electric types while stone edge won't go 2x damage.

alakazam/gardevior/mismagius:
i would personally pick alakazam because it can take damage while dealing seriously strong sp. atks. however, gardevior has a higher sp. def. stat, but lower sp. atk. so alakazam would make a better sweeper, in my opinion. and out of the three mismagius has the lowest sp. atk./def. stat.

alakazam: keep focus blast because focus blast is a strong sp. atk. +alakazam's high sp. atk. stat = powerful and can 2hko anything with psychic resistance, tyranitar and metgross, which you'll run into. well, metagross i'm sure of, if you choose to do the side quest with escorting marley and battling the trainers outside the exit. and teach it calm mind to boost it's sp. def. and make even more powerful, it's sp. atk. and shadow ball to cover it's ghost type weakness and have the chance to lower opponent's sp. def.

 

[thekingofgods]

doom last resort overheat works well/ and why no aura sphere on lucario?

 

[Escape Reality]

doom last resort overheat works well/ and why no aura sphere on lucario?

well they're not using lucario anymore, so either way doesn't really matter. but no aura sphere because lucario was being used as a physical attacker.

 

[kab0592]

People please help!!!

 

[Escape Reality]

People please help!!!

i just told you my new thoughts on gyrados' current move set and on alakazam/gardevior/mismagius.

 

[kab0592]

Yes thank you!
But who do you choose between:

-Espeon: Psychic, Grass Knot, Shadow Ball, Calm Mind
-Alakazam: Psychic, Shadow Ball, Energy Ball/Focus Blast/Recover/Calm Mind

and

Garchomp: Earthquake, Dragon Claw, Swords Dance, Fire Fang/Fire Blast/Stone Edge
Electivire: Thunderpunch, Ice Punch, Earthquake, Cross Chop/Brick Break (Is Meditate worthy?)

 

[Escape Reality]

out of garchomp and electivire, i'd say garchomp because it can deal a lot of damage with just one attack like dragon claw and has higher speed/phys. atk. stats than electivire, though it has 2 weaknesses rather than one, but if you think about it, both can be taken out with one hit... so it's up to you, but like i said, garchomp is faster and stronger, so that'd be my choice.

out of alakazam and espeon, i'd go for alakazam because it has higher sp. atk/def. base stats than espeon.

 

[kab0592]

OK, I think I'll finally go with Espeon, because I like it more, but anyways, THANK YOU!

Now again other things:

-Infernape: Flamethrower/Vacuum Wave/Grass Knot/Nasty Plot
-Houndoom: Flamethrower/Dark Pulse/Will-o-Wisp/Nasty Plot
Which one?

Also:
-Roserade: Energy Ball, Sludge Bomb, Shadow Ball, Stun Spore/Leech Seed/Grasswhistle/Toxic/Synthesis (Help with the last move)

AND
Garchomp: Earthquake, Dragon Claw, Swords Dance, Fire Fang/Fire Blast/Stone Edge (Help with the last move)

THANK YOU! I THINK THIS WILL BE THE LAST QUESTION!

 

[Escape Reality]

OK, I think I'll finally go with Espeon, because I like it more, but anyways, THANK YOU!

Now again other things:

-Infernape: Flamethrower/Vacuum Wave/Grass Knot/Nasty Plot
-Houndoom: Flamethrower/Dark Pulse/Will-o-Wisp/Nasty Plot
Which one?

so i'm assuming you'll get a modest natured infernape since i'm seeing all sp. atk. moves. infernape has a lower base sp. atk./def. stat, but not my much. however, infernape is faster and has a higher phys. def. stat which gives it a higher chance of surviving phys. water/ground type moves than houndoom, not to mention it has higher HP stat as well. so i'd go for infernape.

Also:
-Roserade: Energy Ball, Sludge Bomb, Shadow Ball, Stun Spore/Leech Seed/Grasswhistle/Toxic/Synthesis (Help with the last move)

i'd go with toxic, because even though grasswhistle gives you some breathing space to get in a few attacks, toxic is a permanent status in that it won't wear off like sleep does and it deals more damage every turn that the pokemon is out.

AND
Garchomp: Earthquake, Dragon Claw, Swords Dance, Fire Fang/Fire Blast/Stone Edge (Help with the last move)

although fire blast is a strong sp. atk., garchomp's sp. atk. stat is a lot lower than its phys. atk. stat, therefore, in the long run, with swords dance, fire fang can become just as strong. however, since fire fang isn't that strong of an attack alone, (without the help of swords dance), and getting rid of an ice type that is facing garchomp should be top priority, stone edge would be better because it's stronger than fire fang and still does 2x damage against ice types like fire types do.

THANK YOU! I THINK THIS WILL BE THE LAST QUESTION!

don't worry about it. i like helping people out when i can.
changes made in bold.

 

[kab0592]

Well thank you VERY much!
IF you need any help, count with me!